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JonBonJoey

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Oct 25, 2019
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Hello friends. My previous post said I was happy with my warmer replacement. I was wrong. Started using dark mode and there is this awful red blemish on the entire right side of the phone. The biggest problem I've yet to see on an otherwise fine phone I was planning on keeping. Returned it and got another chance to get the thrice heaven blessed once in a lifetime purple unicorn's golden egg.

Unfortunately the replacement has a red tinge not while in dark mode, but just everywhere else on a bright screen. Same spot funny enough. Same factory, 2 weeks newer. I am big sad because this is the coolest phone I've gotten yet.
 

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Eugr

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Now this is interesting. Here is decoded S/N info from 11 Pro Max I got 1.5 weeks ago:

Model: A2161
Factory: FK1 - China, Zhengzhou - Foxconn
Year: 2019
Week: 40 (30.09 - 06.10)
Age: 1 month

And here is the one I got yesterday (with slightly more yellow tint but more uniform screen and tiny scratch on the telephoto lens):

Model: A2161
Factory: FK1 - China, Zhengzhou - Foxconn
Year: 2019
Week: 35 (26.08 - 01.09)
Age: 2 months

I wonder if the one I got yesterday was previously returned to Apple? I know that they are not supposed to sell returned items as new, but still...
 

Sam in SoCal

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I know I could probably go through the 40 pages of this thread to see if this was asked before but I’ll ask it here. Has anyone called Apple support or gone to an Apple store to ask them what the color of the display SHOULD look like? Just curious to see if that was worthwhile or maybe they didn’t have an answer.
 
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konqerror

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Love to hear from an Apple spokesperson to comment on why these screens are Warner each year and why can’t we / they can’t adjust it?

Because nearly all computer screens and TVs, including Apple's, are incorrectly cool to appear brighter to consumers. Go buy a color calibrator and calibrate your monitors. Once you see how warm the D65 standard is supposed to be, you'll realize how bad everything else is. On any properly calibrated screen, D65 white looks yellow.

Or another rough test: get a high quality piece of printer paper (brightness close to 100). Go outside on a clear day in direct sunlight and hold it next to the phone. The white should match.
 
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Sam in SoCal

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I know you guys prefer everything to be calibrated by default but for me on my 11 pro max I just went into the color filters and put the hue bar a little to the right just at the end of the bottom bar that takes you to the home screen and everything looks cooler(better) now.
 

Eugr

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I know you guys prefer everything to be calibrated by default but for me on my 11 pro max I just went into the color filters and put the hue bar a little to the right just at the end of the bottom bar that takes you to the home screen and everything looks cooler(better) now.

It is not the same as properly adjusting white point though as it affects overall color accuracy. Also it just makes everything dimmer.
 
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Eugr

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So did you return yours or do you have a good display

No, mine has yellow tint, so still debating whether I should return or keep it. I’ve got another one, but it is also yellow (even more yellow than my first one) and has a tiny scratch on the inside of telephoto lens. However it doesn’t seem to affect the quality and it consistently produces sharper images with more detail and less noise on telephoto. The difference is very minor, but still.

So, I haven’t decided whether I want to keep my current one or try another... I probably won’t keep the new one despite marginally better camera output, as there is no improvement in screen quality.

It all takes time and I’m not sure if I want to spend even more time on it.
 

Sam in SoCal

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No, mine has yellow tint, so still debating whether I should return or keep it. I’ve got another one, but it is also yellow (even more yellow than my first one) and has a tiny scratch on the inside of telephoto lens. However it doesn’t seem to affect the quality and it consistently produces sharper images with more detail and less noise on telephoto. The difference is very minor, but still.

So, I haven’t decided whether I want to keep my current one or try another... I probably won’t keep the new one despite marginally better camera output, as there is no improvement in screen quality.

It all takes time and I’m not sure if I want to spend even more time on it.
Well my return window ended tonight so I own it now. my has had some yellow but again I adjusted the hue in the color filter and I’m just going to forget about it. It is what it is. I still have 45 days to get Apple care on it so I can take advantage and get a replacement if it becomes necessary down the road
 

CoronaOnTap

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Well my return window ended tonight so I own it now. my has had some yellow but again I adjusted the hue in the color filter and I’m just going to forget about it. It is what it is. I still have 45 days to get Apple care on it so I can take advantage and get a replacement if it becomes necessary down the road

If it’s been just one day I’m guessing they might make an exception. If they don’t ask to speak to their supervisor. They almost always will comply.
If that fails just write a scathing review about your experience and you’d get a callback in the next couple days trying to make it right.
 

Sam in SoCal

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If it’s been just one day I’m guessing they might make an exception. If they don’t ask to speak to their supervisor. They almost always will comply.
If that fails just write a scathing review about your experience and you’d get a callback in the next couple days trying to make it right.
What’s funny is I never thought there were issues with it until I registered with macforum rumors. Lol. It’ll be fine. And actually you know what, I have comfort in knowing most people have these types of displays. It’s the norm and I’m sure next year if I decide to sell it no value will be lost
 

m0sher

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What’s funny is I never thought there were issues with it until I registered with macforum rumors. Lol. It’ll be fine. And actually you know what, I have comfort in knowing most people have these types of displays. It’s the norm and I’m sure next year if I decide to sell it no value will be lost

Not even one penny loss difference. Luckily when you turn in your phone for trade in, phone carriers or Apple aren’t going into a dark room looking at screen uniformity or if displays are too warm for their opinion. :p
 

infoghost

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My yellow tint story. I bought an 11 Pro from ATT on launch day, it had some crap under the lens that bothered me (more than a speck of dust, almost like a scratch or glue or something, I don't know.) Apple wouldn't swap it, claimed it was cosmetic, so I sent it back to ATT. After all the return stuff got straightened out, I got a new 11 Pro straight from the Apple store. The screen on the original was also fine, so I had somewhat of a comparison when I got the new phone.

The new phone was so yellow. And this is coming from a guy who likes warmer colors, who even will put night shift on top of true tone in the past at times. I had to turn true tone completely off or it just looked gross most of the time. The screen without true tone almost looked like my other phones with it on. With true tone on, it was just awful.

Returned it, got a new one with a much better screen. True tone works as it should. Disappointing, I've had so many iPhones over the years that were just fine on day one, I've never returned one before this. With so many being made, I am sure there are a few less than perfect ones out there.

Anyhow, it's not a made-up thing for sure. Return it for a new one if you are unhappy.
 
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Eugr

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An update - I decided to play the lottery one more time and exchanged the one with scratched lens with another unit.

What’s funny, there is also a scratch/dent, but on the outside radius of the lens, so it’s purely cosmetic and it’s tiny - looks like a small dust particle. So nothing to obsess over here.

The display was less yellow than the one I got before even after I first turned it on, but noticeably yellower than my original one. Just like the one before it, it slowly became less yellow and now almost exactly matches my original one. The screen is also a bit more uniform, but it has a purple tint in complete darkness. My original one has slight greenish tint, but shows some patches of darkness when using very dark grey color on minimal brightness.

The new one still looks slightly warmer than my original one, but not much. So I’ll probably keep the new one as I wanted to upgrade storage too.

It’s manufactured the same week as my current one:


Model: A2161
Factory: FK1 - China, Zhengzhou - Foxconn
Year: 2019
Week: 40 (30.09 - 06.10)
Age: 1 month

So it looks like it is calibrated this way. A bit more yellow than my X, but fairly consistent between units. Also, it looks like the color balance is off when you first turn it on, but adjusts over time to be less yellow.
 

Tannabanana91

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Oct 31, 2019
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Compared to my XS Max, my new Pro Max definitely has a warmer display. However if I don't compare them side by side I don't really notice it.

I FIGURED IT OUT!!!! It was driving me crazy and I see others are alsosuper annoyed. I had to create an account so I could help you guys out!!!!!!! The first statement is how to change it and the second one is what I have mine set to!!!
THIS WILL SAVE THE DAY!!!!!!
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An update - I decided to play the lottery one more time and exchanged the one with scratched lens with another unit.

What’s funny, there is also a scratch/dent, but on the outside radius of the lens, so it’s purely cosmetic and it’s tiny - looks like a small dust particle. So nothing to obsess over here.

The display was less yellow than the one I got before even after I first turned it on, but noticeably yellower than my original one. Just like the one before it, it slowly became less yellow and now almost exactly matches my original one. The screen is also a bit more uniform, but it has a purple tint in complete darkness. My original one has slight greenish tint, but shows some patches of darkness when using very dark grey color on minimal brightness.

The new one still looks slightly warmer than my original one, but not much. So I’ll probably keep the new one as I wanted to upgrade storage too.

It’s manufactured the same week as my current one:


Model: A2161
Factory: FK1 - China, Zhengzhou - Foxconn
Year: 2019
Week: 40 (30.09 - 06.10)
Age: 1 month

So it looks like it is calibrated this way. A bit more yellow than my X, but fairly consistent between units. Also, it looks like the color balance is off when you first turn it on, but adjusts over time to be less yellow.


HERS THE FIX ???
You are welcome!!!!!!!
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I know I could probably go through the 40 pages of this thread to see if this was asked before but I’ll ask it here. Has anyone called Apple support or gone to an Apple store to ask them what the color of the display SHOULD look like? Just curious to see if that was worthwhile or maybe they didn’t have an answer.

HERES THE FIX ????
 

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Eugr

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I FIGURED IT OUT!!!! It was driving me crazy and I see others are alsosuper annoyed. I had to create an account so I could help you guys out!!!!!!! The first statement is how to change it and the second one is what I have mine set to!!!
THIS WILL SAVE THE DAY!!!!!!

Thanks, but it has been discussed a few times in this thread. You can shift color balance this way, but since it’s a color filter overlaid on top of the screen contents, it will mess up accuracy of other colors and make everything dimmer. Not a proper replacement for white point adjustment, unfortunately.
 

Sam in SoCal

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This is how I set mine up. someone had suggested this after My post. I tried it out and it’s perfect for me now. satisfied. you mentioned setting the intensity all the way to the left and i didn’t see that in any of your attachments. Also, mysteriously, my intensity was already set all the way to the left. I just adjusted the hue 75% or so to the right. And yes as you said you have to adjust the hue to your liking. But in my attachment I guestimated around that 75% mark. Oh yes, now I remember where I got the suggestion. I saw it on reddit
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I haven’t paid attention to it messing with color accuracy or making it dimmer. I’ll need to spend some time with the adjusted settings to see if that’s the case
 

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socceryo3

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I haven’t paid attention to it messing with color accuracy or making it dimmer. I’ll need to spend some time with the adjusted settings to see if that’s the case
You can literally just toggle it on and off (without dark mode on) and notice that it tints all the colors blue and makes the screen dimmer. It's not a fix. It's a terrible workaround that was designed only to make things easier to see for people with vision impairments (hence why it's under Accessibility settings). It was never designed to remove a color cast from the screen and maintain color accuracy.
 

Jim McN

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Color filters setting applies as per the feature name a filter so this is not a proper screen calibration and beyond getting the screen dimmer it will affect the color accuracy too.

As long as Apple will not push a proper screen calibration setting or implement such screen profiles there will be no way to fix it.

I recall that they were some workarounds with the iPhone jailbreak but for me it would not be an option since I prefer to not hack my iPhone.
 

Jutah

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Me ne many other users wrote a specific feedback to Apple here Apple Product Feedback asking for a specific color temperature / white calibration function in order to fix those yellow screens
 

Eugr

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An update - I decided to play the lottery one more time and exchanged the one with scratched lens with another unit.

What’s funny, there is also a scratch/dent, but on the outside radius of the lens, so it’s purely cosmetic and it’s tiny - looks like a small dust particle. So nothing to obsess over here.

...

The new one still looks slightly warmer than my original one, but not much. So I’ll probably keep the new one as I wanted to upgrade storage too.

It seems like I will stick to my original one, after all. This new one has very pronounced purple tint at the top of the screen and green at the bottom when using in dark mode with gray background on lowest brightness settings. I use it this way almost every evening, so it’s a deal breaker for me.

Today is the last day I can return my original, so I’m done playing screen lottery. As much as I wanted more storage, the original one still has the best screen of them all.
 

Aydy

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Sorry but if I’m paying upwards of 1K for my phone there is no way I’m applying a half ass’d filter to make the display look normal or kinda acceptable. Also these colour filters distort colour elsewhere (System wide) while trying to achieve a cooler palette.

Quality control on these OLED displays is shocking. Many devices that would usually be sin binned on the factory floor are making it to apple store shelves. That’s not cool. Sort yourself out Apple.
 
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