Wanted to stay on ios 10.3.3 but should we consider updating now because of the meltdowm/spectre bug? I haven't looked into it so not sure how serious it is.
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Anyone else glad to be on iOS 10.3.3?
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No, I'm not happy at all with 10.3.3. iOS 10.3 introduced a problem that some Safari Web Data files cannot be deleted. What started out for me as three 0-byte files is now over a dozen consuming 1.8Mbytes and growing. Not to mention the fact that having certain undeletable web-data files is another security concern. I've contacted Apple Support for most releases since 10.3.2, only to have them confirm that the problem is not fixed and that they are still "working on it". My wife is still on an older 10.2.1 release for her devices and she's not having these issues (although she's beginning to see other issues with newer Apps so she's going to need to update to resolve those problems).
From what I can tell, this issue appears to be a file corruption issue associated with the major change of using the Apple File System (APFS) introduced in iOS 10.3. They cannot be deleted. Backing up Apps and its data appears to backup the corrupted file, so when restored, the files are still there and still cannot be deleted. I shudder to think what other App's data files are orphaned eating up memory that can't be reclaimed. And I don't know how much of APFS is implemented in hardware or the chipsets in the devices so I hope that this isn't another hardware issue like were seeing with the Spectre and Meltdown hacks.
Apple needs to spend some time at fix this issue. It continues to be a problem on all iOS 11 releases and unless fixed in upcoming Spectre patch, will continue to be an issue.
From what I can tell, this issue appears to be a file corruption issue associated with the major change of using the Apple File System (APFS) introduced in iOS 10.3. They cannot be deleted. Backing up Apps and its data appears to backup the corrupted file, so when restored, the files are still there and still cannot be deleted. I shudder to think what other App's data files are orphaned eating up memory that can't be reclaimed. And I don't know how much of APFS is implemented in hardware or the chipsets in the devices so I hope that this isn't another hardware issue like were seeing with the Spectre and Meltdown hacks.
Apple needs to spend some time at fix this issue. It continues to be a problem on all iOS 11 releases and unless fixed in upcoming Spectre patch, will continue to be an issue.
Well if it's still a problem on ios 11 then might as well stay on 10.3.3. Ios 11 has far more bugs than just web data files.
I just purchased Mint iPhone 7 Product Red. It has iOS 10.3.1 installed. Is there any major difference that I need to worry compare to 10.3.2 or 10.3.3?
Thank you.
Thank you.
This should help. Also ugh every notification about this thread makes me expect they've opened the floodgates again heh.
https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1893?locale=en_CA
https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1893?locale=en_CA
Unless you have an iPhone 5 or something that's maxed out at 10.3.3 you can't. It's not being signed sadly, which is why this thread was such a big deal when it was created. Apple briefly resigned some versions and we got to choose to downgrade/upgrade to what we wanted.
I don't think that's why the thread was originally created, given that the whole thing with signing happed after the thread was already going. It doesn't really seem like that whole signing thing even got brought up in this thread when it was happening (or even after).
It sounds like a thread like PSA! Up to iOS 10.3 Re-Signing! might be a better one to keep an eye on (in case something like that happens again and someone will post an update in that thread).
Sticking with 10.3 on my 6S and will never upgrade the phone. Funnily, I run iOS 11 on my Air 2 which has more headroom. I see iPhones as 5 year investments but usually churn iPads every three years.
Indeed its huuuuuge... pretty much like using Windows without an antivirus nowadays IMO, 1 year ago i had supported the OP posture but not today...
It is a big deal.
Considering that virtually every computing device is affected, and how easy it is to steal genuinely useful information, and how attacks using these methods cannot be detected, and how it is simply delivered via Javascript on a website--well you can bet every single black hat on the planet is trying to figure out how to implement this.
That's why Apple needs to provide security fixes beyond just iOS11.
Well the only device i can't update here on my side is an ipod touch 5, anyways is pointless to update it its so old and slow and battery its...still i'm using to stream Apple Music but that's all i'm not pretending to do anything else with it.
Tried iOS 11 and then downgraded my 6s back to 10.3.3. The battery drain on iOS 11 was terrible despite having a brand new battery. A clean install with setting up the phone as new didn't help either. I think that some 6s phones are simply incompatible with iOS 11.
Glad to still be in the iOS Resistance on my iPhone SE. It shipped last September 18 with 10.3.2 and upgraded the day after to 10.3.3.
The update domains are blocked in my home router and through the Never Allow websites list in Restrictions (FWIW). That will help to keep the wolves outside.
Though I fear that Meltdown/Spectre will force my hand on an upgrade. I'm hoping to hold out until at least 11.3. Like people in a zombie movie sitting behind the barricades running out of food and guns, I wonder what the use of fighting is anymore. I'll have to make the call. (Credit to Jonathan Coulton
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The update domains are blocked in my home router and through the Never Allow websites list in Restrictions (FWIW). That will help to keep the wolves outside.
Though I fear that Meltdown/Spectre will force my hand on an upgrade. I'm hoping to hold out until at least 11.3. Like people in a zombie movie sitting behind the barricades running out of food and guns, I wonder what the use of fighting is anymore. I'll have to make the call. (Credit to Jonathan Coulton
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I purposely am sticking with iOS 10.3.3 on my 6S so I can get five years from it. I prefer to set my hardware upgrade path instead of Apple.
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Ive kept my Air 2 current and so far so good. I’ll wait a good while before deciding on ios12 but lately I’ve become a member of the resistance to Lord Cook.
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Isn’t the 7 like brand newish? How can it be “old” given I recently bought a refurbished 6S after five glorious years with a 5?
Oh boy, I am super happy to still be on 10.3. (.1 in my case) My iPad that I almost never use is on iOS 11.1.1 currently and I pretty much hate the new App Store.
Ditto! I am still on a 6s as well and will remain on it indefinitely at this point it looks like. I used to always get the latest iPhone, but the removal of the 3.5mm audio jack was a deal breaker for me. I also enjoy an actual home button, as opposed to the one that you can no longer depress and that just vibrates in the iPhone 7 and 8. But it's really the audio jack for me mainly...
This. I had a 6s that was handed down to a family member. It was - and still is - on iOS 9.3.3 running flawlessly.
Battery life was always good and there is no lag. It will stay there, despite the constant update nagging.
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Stop the nagging (until 5/12/19) by installing the tvOS beta profile. You'll love your iPhone again.
http://www.ipodhacks142.com/download/tvos-11-beta-profile/#
Still have my 7plus on 10.3.3. Runs great and is super speedy just like when I first bought it on release. Updated my iPad Pro 10.5 to ios11 and it seems to be slower and does more page refreshes in Safari than my 7plus on ios10 even though it has a faster SOC (A10X vs A10) and more RAM (4GB vs 3GB). (Both are 256GB models)
I wish I could put my iPad back on ios10, too.
I wish I could put my iPad back on ios10, too.