Anyone else noticing lag with jailbroken 2.2

[Knowlege Bomb]

If your still running an old version of Winterboard you need to update. There is an updated posted this morning in Cydia. It opens apps like your phone is not even jailbroken.

2.2 and new winterboard SMOKES 2.1

This is the main point with this upgrade. I noticed night/day differences after upgrading winterboard this morning.

The thing is that with quickpwn 2.2 i don't think you can deselect installer.app. It already packages that application with the rest. Correct?

Not correct. The four options are still presented before beginning the process.

Who uses it? and what does it have that Cydia doesn't? Waste of space IMO

Absolutely nothing. It completely bogs down the phone every time it's opened. None of the sources I could find online even worked and everything you could need is found in Cydia anyway.

 

[Bear Hunter]

I updated this time, so next update I will restore

By the way this is on "/" not "/var" which has 3GB left.

How much free space is normalish on "/" anyone?

How many times have you Upgraded with Jailbroken firmware? The word on the street is that you loose 500mb everytime. In my instance, I upgraded twice with JB firmware....I Restored this time and got 1gig back.

 

[ethos84]

How many times have you Upgraded with Jailbroken firmware? The word on the street is that you loose 500mb everytime. In my instance, I upgraded twice with JB firmware....I Restored this time and got 1gig back.

Only upgraded once, only got the phone about a month ago and it had 2.1 with it

You lose 500MB of the other partition, or the main partition?

If you are running sbsettings, have a look and see how much spare space you have on "/" please?

I don't think 60MB is an issue but I have seem screen shots ranging from 60MB up to 200MB!

 

[Bear Hunter]

Only upgraded once, only got the phone about a month ago and it had 2.1 with it

You lose 500MB of the other partition, or the main partition?

If you are running sbsettings, have a look and see how much spare space you have on "/" please?

I don't think 60MB is an issue but I have seem screen shots ranging from 60MB up to 200MB!

I don't use SBSettings. It is too unstable IMO....going into Safe mode for simple resprings, etc....

I installed regular BossPrefs and deleted that crap.

 

[ethos84]

I don't use SBSettings. It is too unstable IMO....going into Safe mode for simple resprings, etc....

I installed regular BossPrefs and deleted that crap.

What does boss prefs show you for free hdd space then?

 

[jcde7ago]

I don't use SBSettings. It is too unstable IMO....going into Safe mode for simple resprings, etc....

I installed regular BossPrefs and deleted that crap.

Funny, i used every version of SBSettings since release and i had never once encountered any problems whatsoever. I swear by that app, as do many of my friends who jailbroke once they saw it. Must be conflicting with something else that you have installed.

 

[Bear Hunter]

What does boss prefs show you for free hdd space then?

I'm showing 57M of 500M on / (that's on the new partition)
2.4G of 7.1G on /private/var

...Cydia creates a new one everytime you upgrade, it doesn't overwrite according to this article...and I tend to believe it because I only had 1.4G of 7.1G on /private/var before (yes I have the exact same setup)

http://sleepers.net/2008/09/19/how-to-upgrade-in-itunes/

First off, you never use “upgrade” on a jailbroken device. If you do that, you automatically lose about 500mb of disk space and never recover it until you finally restore. If you upgrade from 2.0 to 2.0.1 using upgrade button, you lose 500mb. If you then upgrade from 2.0.1 to 2.0.2, you lose *another* 500mb. And this continues until you hit the restore button. The data loss is because Cydia moves your files around to free up space. The moved files become inaccessible but stay on your disk which means you essentially just lose the space. The more apps you had installed in Cydia, the more space you lose.

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Funny, i used every version of SBSettings since release and i had never once encountered any problems whatsoever. I swear by that app, as do many of my friends who jailbroke once they saw it. Must be conflicting with something else that you have installed.

I don't know..I just know, I'm not the only one. If you do too many resprings (cusomizing a theme for example) it will crash springboard. Never had that problem using BossPrefs

 

[Ecthelion]

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Since I updated winterboard it's been alittle more responsive but I'm still having some bugs so I think I may try and restore it again.

 

[jeffdc5]

No lag for me I restored and jb using quickpwn on my macbook. This is the best update I love downloading podcasts and streetview is fun. The performance increase is the best part, apps load up twice as fast. I went to vz wireless to test out the "storm" that phone was a joke had some nice features but slow as can be. I love my iPhone even more now

 

[Warbrain]

Haven't noticed any so far... but I just updated and fixed all my settings. I just downloaded a game from the appstore, and it downloaded fine and I'm playing it fine. Maybe you should try restoring again.

So far so good with me. Loving 2.2

May I ask what you're using in your screenshot on the lock screen?

Not correct. The four options are still presented before beginning the process.

Not on a Mac. Quickpwn on a Mac operates differently than on a PC. Quickpwn Mac acts as a quick hash together of the IPSW and upload of the necessary parts to jailbreak. Quickpwn PC acts like the old RAM disk jallbreak from 1.1.4 and provides options.

 

[SFStateStudent]

I'm noticing lag between some apps; my SMS opens rather slowly, but typing and receiving SMS is fine. My battery life has been normal, with very little difference between 2.1 JB and 2.2 JB. Safari has been fine as well, whether running on 3G or WiFi. Walked into Starbuck's last night and WiFi hookup was fast and easy, and full bars. I'm still waiting for the Sunburst/Orbit SMS app, a couple of the lockscreen apps, the battery color change and the gold WiFi bars, but beyond that, I'm pretty satisfied with my Mac quickkpwn 2.2 JB...

 

[jcde7ago]

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Jailbroke to 2.2 last night, everything went well. Took a little over 2 hours to get my phone back to what it had been before but 2.2 + Winterboard update is absolutely worth it, the speed increase is unreal over 2.1 + non-updated Winterboard.

Also, doing a fresh restore then quickpwning then restoring from backup works wonders. If you've been on the fence about jailbreaking because Winterboard lagged your phone in the past or you've heard about it doing so, I can say with confidence that no longer is that the case...my phone actually seems like it was not jailbroken AT ALL.

 

[STC]

Jailbroken 2.2 Works perfectly fine! No problems anywhere.

Street View is not the only update.. Safari has been a lot less buggy since the update.

I asure you, a restore works wonders.

Perfect! I'm going to upgrade, jailbreak, and get the new winterboard.

 

[Warbrain]

With every iPhone update I back up my data, do a fresh restore, and then run Quickpwn. I've had no issues with speed.

 

[ethos84]

Yea, i'm thinking I should have done the same.

I'm checking my phone via ssh and I seem to have loads of duplicate folders for themes/wallpapers/ringtones.

Hardly a clean update?!

How hard is it to restore the phone to 2.2 from a 2.2 JB phone? Is this adviseable...

 

[jcde7ago]

Yea, i'm thinking I should have done the same.

I'm checking my phone via ssh and I seem to have loads of duplicate folders for themes/wallpapers/ringtones.

Hardly a clean update?!

How hard is it to restore the phone to 2.2 from a 2.2 JB phone? Is this adviseable...

Updating doesn't erase the partition, that's the problem. Cydia moves your stuff around but makes it inaccessible, thus you lose the space if you upgrade (500 mb is lost each time you upgrade). You're always supposed to back up your Jailbroken data (in this case jailbroken 2.1 data) then restore fresh with the newest firmware, jailbreak, then restore your back up.

 

[trunksu]

May I ask what you're using in your screenshot on the lock screen?

it's called homescreen. you can find it on macthemes site on their forums (iphone releases). if you can't find it let me know and i'll upload it tonight (or provide a link) when i get home.

 

[Habakuk]

Today I had the opportunity to compare two ident 16GB 3Gs. One quickpwnd 2.1 JB (without WinterBoard) - the other 2.2 without JB (never pwnd). The camera app lastet four seconds longer to start (opening virtual aperture on screen) on the 2.1 JB. The screen of the 2.1 JB was a little bit more yellowish.

 

[lostfan916]

May I ask what you're using in your screenshot on the lock screen?

Status Notifier, which you can get in Cydia.

And this Winterboard theme, which displays weather and status notifiers.

 

[Ecthelion]

this Winterboard theme, which displays weather and status notifiers.

That is awesome I think I'm going to install that right now.

 

[ntrigue]

Why are people wanting to get rid of installer so much?

In another extensive thread we quantified the lag caused by just having Installer.app on the Springboard that goes for BiteSMS and Winterboard as well.

 

[ethos84]

In another extensive thread we quantified the lag caused by just having Installer.app on the Springboard that goes for BiteSMS and Winterboard as well.

Cool, what thread was that mate?

I've been noticing more lag lately, even with the latest winterboard.

I'm semi tempted to just restore to 2.2 (completely fresh) and then JB again. Best method to do so?

I'm not that bothered about backing up sms/calls or apps.

 

[alphadog00]

I did JB using Pwnage on Mac with 2.2 - no installer, just Cydia and a 750MB root partition.

All apps are stable, but serious lag opening Calendar and Contacts. 2.1 was very snappy but not JB.

I might try a restore with my custom 2.2 and then build as new to see if that fixes things....

I just want to keep old baseband for future unlock options.

 

[mavis]

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Jailbroke to 2.2 last night, everything went well. Took a little over 2 hours to get my phone back to what it had been before but 2.2 + Winterboard update is absolutely worth it, the speed increase is unreal over 2.1 + non-updated Winterboard.

Also, doing a fresh restore then quickpwning then restoring from backup works wonders. If you've been on the fence about jailbreaking because Winterboard lagged your phone in the past or you've heard about it doing so, I can say with confidence that no longer is that the case...my phone actually seems like it was not jailbroken AT ALL.

After reading your post, I decided to give it a shot again - I'd been jailbroken since 1.1.1 but gave it up when 2.1 was released as the performance hit from Winterboard was just getting on my nerves (and since custom themes are pretty much the only reason left for me to jailbreak, if they don't work, there's no point!) ... I digress. After reading your post I gave it a shot again, and at first I thought you were right - After restoring my backup I was back in business and even with Winterboard installed, things seemed to be moving along well. But after just three short days, the lag caught up with me again. Apps open slowly (particularly Settings, Cal, iPod, and SMS) booting takes forever, and in addition to the constant lag, I get occasional super-lags (instead of the four seconds it takes to open Settings, it will suddenly take ten - or more - to open) ... So, I deleted Winterboard. Problem solved.

To summarize: if you think Winterboard won't slow your system down, give it a few days. It will!!

I wish Winterboard was more like Summerboard in its use of resources. I NEVER had problems like this with Summerboard, and I've been making custom themes for about a year now. Consistently, I mean EVERY TIME - Winterboard slows my iPhone 3G down to a crawl. I realize that tacking on a second or two to app launch times isn't the end of the world, but those seconds add up to minutes and eventually HOURS of time wasted, waiting for stuff to open. Not to mention the occasional super-lags, which inevitably seem to happen at the most inopportune times. Bleh. I wish I could have custom themes again!!!!

 

[mavis]

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Anyone else? Or am I the only one experiencing WinterBoard-caused lag? Do I just have a defective, WinterBoard intolerant phone?