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Anyone else really excited about windows 7?

pilotError

pilotError

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Apr 12, 2006
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Vista's problem wasn't that it was unstable. It's problem was that it just annoy's the crap out of you.

It seems like everytime you click on something another dialog box pops up.

The interface is way overloaded. I've been using Windows since 2.0 and it took some getting used to. The dumbing down of the interface made it harder to use.

The whole Vista certified label really blew up in their faces, but that's a different story.

I have had it BSD; actually it just froze when the networking became unstable. Seriously, that shouldn't happen. Out of the 400,000 dialog boxes, they couldn't have come up with a "Network Problem" dialog box and let it continue. Couldn't even Ctrl+Alt+Del with that one.

Now that OS X has become a serious competitor (10% in the US), MS will wake up and we'll all get much better code / products coming out of both Apple and MS. Competition is a healthy thing, monopoly's aren't.
 
Digital Skunk

Digital Skunk

macrumors G3
Dec 23, 2006
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I am excited for Windows 7 and Windows Mobile 7 as well. I actually can't wait them to come out. I am going to start going back to some Windows machines now that Apple can't cater to anyone but people that d!ck around with their machines.

I am thinking very hard about picking up the Sony TZ 11.1" fully loaded and possibly an HP Blackbird 002 once i get the straight cash to pay for them since I can't use the freelance budget.... it still has to be Mac OS X over there.

WM7 hopefully won't make the far superior HTC phones crap once it is released. And by them I am hoping MS makes the UI touch friendly since that's the biggest thing keeping HTC from dropping the stylus.
 
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rasmasyean

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Jul 11, 2008
810
1
pilotError said:
Vista's problem wasn't that it was unstable. It's problem was that it just annoy's the crap out of you.

It seems like everytime you click on something another dialog box pops up.

The interface is way overloaded. I've been using Windows since 2.0 and it took some getting used to. The dumbing down of the interface made it harder to use.

The whole Vista certified label really blew up in their faces, but that's a different story.

I have had it BSD; actually it just froze when the networking became unstable. Seriously, that shouldn't happen. Out of the 400,000 dialog boxes, they couldn't have come up with a "Network Problem" dialog box and let it continue. Couldn't even Ctrl+Alt+Del with that one.

Now that OS X has become a serious competitor (10% in the US), MS will wake up and we'll all get much better code / products coming out of both Apple and MS. Competition is a healthy thing, monopoly's aren't.
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I can see the point in dumbing down the UI, but they should give you a bit more customization. I think they are caught between dumbing down the computer and making it "smooth" for power users. There's sometimes a pretty thick line between. But they can't make it too "consumerish" just because of competition with OSX...it will alienate their #1 customers...industry. At least if they make it customizable that would be good, but then I guess they risk the "bloat effect" as usual especially with all these animated effects...if the can't solve it that well. But maybe in a coupla years computers will become so powerful that it doesn't make a difference. Just like how ppl still liked DOS because Windows "uneccessarily used graphics processing power". ;)
 
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The Flashing Fi

macrumors 6502a
Sep 23, 2007
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pilotError said:
Vista's problem wasn't that it was unstable. It's problem was that it just annoy's the crap out of you.

It seems like everytime you click on something another dialog box pops up.

The interface is way overloaded. I've been using Windows since 2.0 and it took some getting used to. The dumbing down of the interface made it harder to use.

The whole Vista certified label really blew up in their faces, but that's a different story.

I have had it BSD; actually it just froze when the networking became unstable. Seriously, that shouldn't happen. Out of the 400,000 dialog boxes, they couldn't have come up with a "Network Problem" dialog box and let it continue. Couldn't even Ctrl+Alt+Del with that one.

Now that OS X has become a serious competitor (10% in the US), MS will wake up and we'll all get much better code / products coming out of both Apple and MS. Competition is a healthy thing, monopoly's aren't.
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The UAC did get on people's nerves, and is one thing they are correcting in Windows 7.

But the negative stigma that really hurt Vista as far as "stability" goes, wasn't Microsoft's fault, it was the hardware vendors (nvidia, ATi, Intel, ect) providing crappy drivers (and it wasn't like Vista's arrival caught them by surprise, everyone had access to Beta 1, Beta 2, RC1, and RC2, and they had about 3 months after RTM to prepare drivers before the consumer market got it). I remember some people were going to start a class action law suite against Nvidia because of how craptacular their drivers under Vista were.

As for the market share, Mac OS X's market share has increased, but it's still not at 10% (it depends on who's conducting. The median is around 5% though).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_desktop_operating_systems
 
Stridder44

Stridder44

macrumors 68040
Mar 24, 2003
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petvas said:
Please do not forget that Windows 7 has all the issues that Windows traditionally had. DLL hell, Registry fragmentation, programs that cause problems to other apps, etc...Nothing has changed there! Of course there is the .NET Framework but not many developers create self containing apps for Windows...
Windows 7 has a different interface, looks good but inside it is the same Windows kernel...which frankly sucks big time
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Right, and Macs are perfect. :rolleyes: Keep drinking that kool-aid.
 
NoSmokingBandit

NoSmokingBandit

macrumors 68000
Apr 13, 2008
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pilotError said:
I see a bunch of clone things (networking setup, their version of the dock, and a few others) are showing up in Windows 7. I read the engadget coverage and even they are like "where did I see this before".
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NO!
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
The new taskbar is NOTHING like the dock. They just made large, label-free icons and turned program grouping on. The taskbar still functions like the taskbar. It handles multiple windows a billion times better than the dock ever will. Its not the dock, its still the taskbar. It may be hard for some people to understand, but MS doesnt just sit around copying OSX all day.
 
NoSmokingBandit

NoSmokingBandit

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Apr 13, 2008
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I missed a multi-quote, my bad.

rasmasyean said:
I can see the point in dumbing down the UI, but they should give you a bit more customization. I think they are caught between dumbing down the computer and making it "smooth" for power users. There's sometimes a pretty thick line between. But they can't make it too "consumerish" just because of competition with OSX...it will alienate their #1 customers...industry. At least if they make it customizable that would be good, but then I guess they risk the "bloat effect" as usual especially with all these animated effects...if the can't solve it that well. But maybe in a coupla years computers will become so powerful that it doesn't make a difference. Just like how ppl still liked DOS because Windows "uneccessarily used graphics processing power". ;)
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Do you really want to start complaingin about UI customization on a Mac forum? You know what choices i have on Leo? Gray and Aqua. TWO choices. I cant even change the font without unstable haxies.
 
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James17

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Dec 13, 2007
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Testing Windows 7 beta 1 on my HP laptop. I chose the upgrade option and everything is working perfectly. It's so fast which is all I've ever wanted with Vista. If this is beta 1 then I'm very excited and totally looking forward to the final release. I'm going to take advantage of the Feedback Program and send as much as I can. I'm going to install the 64 bit version on my 2.8GHz alu MBP tomorrow. :)
 
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chewietobbacca

macrumors 6502
Jun 18, 2007
428
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I'm loving Windows 7. As stated, this thing is FAST. Much faster than Vista was (granted, I have a beefy desktop so this wasn't that slow to begin with). Faster boot time, far less memory footprint, and the install footprint is smaller as well :D

As stated, this isn't quite a dock but its not the same taskbar either - the preview system is nice, and finally their version of Aero works really well.

And no, this isn't going to require more intense hardware - if anything, the requirements are much lower. Numerous people are saying that 1GB is more than enough for Win 7 - and if DX11 is like DX10, it will be 1-2 years before any software requires it (not to mention that a lot of DX11 features are already enabled on DX10, so it won't be a big deal if you have a DX10 card already).

The beta has been really fast and stable for a beta which is surprising - I haven't been excited for a new Windows OS in a while, but this looks like it could be a winner.
 
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