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Yes, I do want to buy one “just because” it’s the coolest-looking computer I’ve ever seen. Some people may disagree, but it’s really grown on me as an all-time classic and timeless design.

The entry-level model would EASILY last me 10 years at minimum with zero upgrades. And possibly much longer. That works out to $600 per year, or $50 per month (plus tax).

As someone else mentioned, it’s the computer equivalent of overpaying for a nice car. Nobody actually needs an Audi or BMW or Mercedes, but lots of people buy them.

If you have to save up for an entire year, I would advise you to hold off until you have a better job. Get yourself into a position where you can afford a luxury item like this.

I dont "have" to save up for a year. Between my two jobs I pull in close to $5k a month. The only reasons I save up a lot of it for investments, traveling, and new tech toys, and I have no idea where I will be in april since my work contracts are up. I have never done such a large purchase before so I would rather save for a year and get it than outright buying it up front.

Edit: my monthly living expenses are around $1200 if you are curious
 
Have you thought about a iMac Pro base model refurb ?
You still get the full waranty , Applecare if you want and all new keyboard and mouse.
It's a pro machine with a great monitor and it will save you a packet.
There is some good deals going around at the moment if you look around.
I've got an old 4,1 and mini i need to replace and 'm thinking of going the same way.

Before you do anything find a Apple store and go and get a hands on demo of some of the modern macs
I think you will be in for a shock on how powerfull these machines really are.

End of the day though it is your cash and you want a 7,1 go and get it.
What ever you decide todo with it enjoy your new computer (and remember to post plenty of pictures)
 
My advice is to max out your ability to create first. Upgrade only when you’re limited by the tools.

If you have money to spend, sure go ahead.
 
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I wouldn't do it. Just buy yourself a nice refurbished iMac or a refurbished MBP. It'll be more than powerful enough to process your fledgling videos for you. The new Pros sure are sexy, but at some point it'll just be another object sitting at your desk and you're not going to be doing anything with it that you can't do on something a fraction of the price. You're just not ready to push a machine like that.

Sure spend your cash while you're living, but don't blow it on stupid things.
 
To be honest, an iMac (non-Pro) makes a lot of sense for someone like you. The built-in 5K display is excellent. No need to spend thousands more on a Mac Pro + display.

It does and that's why I seriously considered it! But I'm in the rare position to afford the Mac Pro, it's brand new, I'm a big Mac head anyway and I love the expand-ability.

For someone looking on a purely practical basis I would probably recommend the iMac Pro too.
 
It does and that's why I seriously considered it! But I'm in the rare position to afford the Mac Pro, it's brand new, I'm a big Mac head anyway and I love the expand-ability.

For someone looking on a purely practical basis I would probably recommend the iMac Pro too.
27" iMac, not iMac Pro. Upgradability is nice, but the price gap from 27" iMac to Mac Pro is massive, the Mac Pro is double the cost. Yes, you could upgrade your Mac Pro later on to keep it relevant, or enjoy yet another new and almost maxed-out 27" iMac in a few years - the latter approach still costs less and buys you longer MacOS support from Apple.

For most people the base model Mac Pro is terrible value as an impulse buy. OTOH, the iMac is pretty good value thanks to that built-in 5K display. Don't even think about pairing a 4K display with a Mac Pro - that is an inferior experience. Once you go 5K, you don't go back. ;)
 
27" iMac, not iMac Pro. Upgradability is nice, but the price gap from 27" iMac to Mac Pro is massive, the Mac Pro is double the cost. Yes, you could upgrade your Mac Pro later on to keep it relevant, or enjoy yet another new and almost maxed-out 27" iMac in a few years - the latter approach still costs less and buys you longer MacOS support from Apple.

For most people the base model Mac Pro is terrible value as an impulse buy. OTOH, the iMac is pretty good value thanks to that built-in 5K display. Don't even think about pairing a 4K display with a Mac Pro - that is an inferior experience. Once you go 5K, you don't go back. ;)
im a video editor, and im probably going to go 1440p for now ;)
 
I dont "have" to save up for a year. Between my two jobs I pull in close to $5k a month. The only reasons I save up a lot of it for investments, traveling, and new tech toys, and I have no idea where I will be in april since my work contracts are up. I have never done such a large purchase before so I would rather save for a year and get it than outright buying it up front.

Edit: my monthly living expenses are around $1200 if you are curious
Normally I would say if you can afford it then do so. However it appears you're on the financial edge making a recommendation more difficult. From what I read you plan to save up to buy one which would eliminate any financial burden on you. If the specific intent is to save to buy this system then I see absolutely nothing wrong with that and would recommend you do it.
 
For most people the base model Mac Pro is terrible value as an impulse buy.

I don't disagree with your central thesis here, as I've said an iMac Pro (or maybe iMac) would be better value for prosumers like myself looking to get the most practical bang for buck and I don't blame most people for not doing what I do.

However...I put off upgrading since 2017, biding my time and saving. Considered a new MBP, Trashcan, iMac, iMac Pro and potential new Mac Pro extensively. I spent every week since the WWDC 2019 checking for the Mac Pro release date. Super practical? No. But an impulse buy this was not! :p

I'll admit I'll be jealous of your 5k, but I don't believe you won't also be jealous of my new Mac tower ;)
 
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I don't disagree with your central thesis here, as I've said an iMac Pro (or maybe iMac) would be better value for prosumers like myself looking to get the most practical bang for buck and I don't blame most people for not doing what I do.

However...I put off upgrading since 2017, biding my time and saving. Considered a new MBP, Trashcan, iMac, iMac Pro and potential new Mac Pro extensively. I spent every week since the WWDC 2019 checking for the Mac Pro release date. Super practical? No. But an impulse buy this was not! :p

I'll admit I'll be jealous of your 5k, but I don't believe you won't also jealous of my new Mac tower ;)
Jealous? Nah. I'm not a fan of paying $6,000 to get an inferior experience. :)

If you can afford to get the Mac Pro + 6K Apple Pro Display, well, that's another matter. ;)
 
Jealous? Nah. I'm not a fan of paying $6,000 to get an inferior experience. :)

If you can afford to get the Mac Pro + 6K Apple Pro Display, well, that's another matter. ;)

Well...inferior is relative.

The Mac Pro can clearly do things an iMac can't. And I went for the 12-Core and 1TB SSD in mine. Pretty sure I'll be getting better performance than an i9 iMac.

The 6K Apple Pro Display is lovely but for audio production it's not worth 6000 euro to me.
 
Well...inferior is relative.

The Mac Pro can clearly do things an iMac can't. And I went for the 12-Core and 1TB SSD in mine. Pretty sure I'll be getting better performance than an i9 iMac.

The 6K Apple Pro Display is lovely but for audio production it's not worth 6000 euro to me.
Considering you've been getting by fine with a dual-core 2011 MacBook Pro and integrated graphics, I doubt the i9 iMac will be incapable of providing adequate performance for audio production. Even my 2015 i7 iMac would likely work just fine for your use case.

In other words, you don't need a Mac Pro, you want one. Therefore, using your reasoning, I can easily rationalize spending $6K on a new Apple Pro Display. Again, it's not a matter of need, not a matter of worth, but purely a matter of want.

Nothing wrong with getting something based on want, as long as it's part of a rational decision-making process, which you have certainly done here. Enjoy your new Mac Pro, but don't expect me to be jealous until you get the Pro Display to pair with it. :)
 
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Considering you've been getting by fine with a dual-core 2011 MacBook Pro and integrated graphics, I doubt the i9 iMac will be incapable of providing adequate performance for audio production. Even my 2015 i7 iMac would likely work just fine for your use case.

In other words, you don't need a Mac Pro, you want one. Therefore, using your reasoning, I can easily rationalize spending $6K on a new Apple Pro Display. Again, it's not a matter of need, not a matter of worth, but purely a matter of want.

Nothing wrong with getting something based on want, as long as it's part of a rational decision-making process, which you have certainly done here. Enjoy your new Mac Pro, but don't expect me to be jealous until you get the Pro Display to pair with it. :)

Well the point is I'm not getting by fine that's the problem! It's very limiting for what I'd like to do, I've arguably put off upgrading longer than I should've.

A brand new maxed out iMac would likely meet all my Music needs in 2019 for sure. But I definitely wouldn't get as much joy out of using it.

Yeah if someone in my position wanted an Apple 6K Display as much as I wanted the new Mac Pro they could justify it just the same!

Alright, gimme a year or two an I might just do that ;)
 
Considering you've been getting by fine with a dual-core 2011 MacBook Pro and integrated graphics, I doubt the i9 iMac will be incapable of providing adequate performance for audio production. Even my 2015 i7 iMac would likely work just fine for your use case.

In other words, you don't need a Mac Pro, you want one. Therefore, using your reasoning, I can easily rationalize spending $6K on a new Apple Pro Display. Again, it's not a matter of need, not a matter of worth, but purely a matter of want.

Nothing wrong with getting something based on want, as long as it's part of a rational decision-making process, which you have certainly done here. Enjoy your new Mac Pro, but don't expect me to be jealous until you get the Pro Display to pair with it. :)

You don't NEED your iMac, you could get by on a chromebook. No one NEEDs any computing device. Get over it, almost everything we do in life has some element of want rather than pure need.
 
im gonna get one, put an nvidia 3080 Ti (or whatever the next in the series is), install arch linux and train some DL models. i know i can build a pc to do that but meh i dont want to. been there done that. what i have wanted is a mac pro since i saw those powermac G5s in the computer lab next to the colorful imacs in 5th grade where we learned how to type with "type to learn"
 
im gonna get one, put an nvidia 3080 Ti (or whatever the next in the series is), install arch linux and train some DL models. i know i can build a pc to do that but meh i dont want to. been there done that. what i have wanted is a mac pro since i saw those powermac G5s in the computer lab next to the colorful imacs in 5th grade where we learned how to type with "type to learn"
You may want to also consider the Z-Series workstations from HP. Mac Pro is a nice system but it's not the only system in this class (though it is the youngest).
 
You may want to also consider the Z-Series workstations from HP. Mac Pro is a nice system but it's not the only system in this class (though it is the youngest).
thanks for the suggestion. in fact where i work we actually do use HP Z-series workstations (i know other places use lambda). the HPs are fine. get the job done. but can i marvel at the wondrous cheesegrater with the HP??? :D
 
thanks for the suggestion. in fact where i work we actually do use HP Z-series workstations (i know other places use lambda). the HPs are fine. get the job done. but can i marvel at the wondrous cheesegrater with the HP??? :D
Nothing spectacular about the new Mac Pro but if you feel there is and it's enough to cause you to want one then go for it.
 
Nothing spectacular about the new Mac Pro but if you feel there is and it's enough to cause you to want one then go for it.
yeah i hear you. i definitely could spend a little less money and build my own etc. we have workstations where i work and theyre fine, but sometimes i like to experiment with things (i'm a phd student) on my personal computer then send stuff for batch jobs. in any case, i definitely dont NEED my own workstation, but i figure if i have money i could get it.
 
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yeah i hear you. i definitely could spend a little less money and build my own etc. we have workstations where i work and theyre fine, but sometimes i like to experiment with things (i'm a phd student) on my personal computer then send stuff for batch jobs. in any case, i definitely dont NEED my own workstation, but i figure if i have money i could get it.
I'm not recommending you purchase an HP but rather consider it. I can't say whether the configuration you want would be less than the Mac Pro nor could I say it would be faster than then Mac Pro. There's the reality the Mac Pro could be lower cost, faster, or both.

If you were a macOS user then I would definitely say go with the Mac Pro. But since you mentioned Linux the Z-Series have been around a lot longer and therefore support is probably better, at least initially, for the Z-Series. Plus the Z-Series isn't a custom build, just a custom configuration.

But if the design of the Mac Pro has caught your eye that's a reason to get it too.
 
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I'm not recommending you purchase an HP but rather consider it. I can't say whether the configuration you want would be less than the Mac Pro nor could I say it would be faster than then Mac Pro. There's the reality the Mac Pro could be lower cost, faster, or both.

If you were a macOS user then I would definitely say go with the Mac Pro. But since you mentioned Linux the Z-Series have been around a lot longer and therefore support is probably better, at least initially, for the Z-Series. Plus the Z-Series isn't a custom build, just a custom configuration.

But if the design of the Mac Pro has caught your eye that's a reason to get it too.
Good points. Yes well (as I'm sure you know) I would prefer to use macOS exclusively, but since there is no CUDA support ill have to put linux. I do also quite like arch though...I feel in control of the whole computer.

If only I could get CUDA in macOS. at this point it feels like such a far out dream. I do like editing video when I have the footage, but honestly whatever video editing I would do, the MBP 16" would be more than enough.

I definitely do like the thermal design of the mac pro, I think it's quite unique and has the signature apple quality. Another reason I want the mac pro is that I've gone 10 years without a desktop (the last was a pc i built in high school) because I had wanted to move to a mac pro. Was disappointed when the trashcan came out because i couldn't put my own GPUs in them, and I view the last 6 years as money that I never spent when I would have.

Anyway. what are your thoughts on the mac pro in general? is it useful for your work?
 
Anyway. what are your thoughts on the mac pro in general? is it useful for your work?
I think it's a well engineered system but I'm unsure of the appearance. I'll wait to see it in person before passing judgement.

As for my current Mac Pros none of them see any regular use. I can't even recall the last time I powered up the 6,1. I like all of them but they're not my primary systems.
 
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