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DingleButt

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I'm actually very impressed with the tablet. For 199, its hard to pass up, great design, great specs, running the latest android. I've always thought that 7" tablets are sweet spot in size.

Not sure of the great design part though. This is a bit concerning
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Jb07

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I think Jelly Bean is a great improvement. It's good to see Android developing quickly, making it a better competitor to iOS.
 

Tarzanman

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I think Jelly Bean is a great improvement. It's good to see Android developing quickly, making it a better competitor to iOS.

Begging your pardon, but Android already has more features than iOS (and has for quite some time now)
 

Jb07

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Begging your pardon, but Android already has more features than iOS (and has for quite some time now)

I think that may be debatable....
But I'm saying a better competitor as far as smoothness and fluidity of the UI goes, as compared to WP7 and iOS.
 

Tarzanman

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I think that may be debatable....
But I'm saying a better competitor as far as smoothness and fluidity of the UI goes, as compared to WP7 and iOS.

Debate if you like, but with the single exception of Siri, the last two major upgrades to iOS (5 and 6) consisted of features that were already available on Android.

As for smoothness and fluidity, I haven't used a 4S very much yet... so I am unable to comment.
 

Jb07

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Debate if you like, but with the single exception of Siri, the last two major upgrades to iOS (5 and 6) consisted of features that were already available on Android.

As for smoothness and fluidity, I haven't used a 4S very much yet... so I am unable to comment.

I agree with that statement. Notification bar and Siri (Vlingo, Google Voice Actions) were both already available on Android, so nothing too great there.
iOS is very smooth, until the device ages 2-3 years, then it starts to slow down and the stuttering UI begins.(In my experience)
 

G51989

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Damn!

This might make me actually buy a new Android and install Apps on it.

Currently the only App on my Android is that x=contruct game lol.

These new Apps might be worth a damn :D
 

Orange Furball

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I hope we get a new Cyanogenmod for jelly bean before 2013. I'm really excited for it!!!!!

Also the nexus 7 looks really nice. I just don't understand how they have a 12 core GPU. that's just overkill to me
 

G51989

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I'm actually very impressed with the tablet. For 199, its hard to pass up, great design, great specs, running the latest android. I've always thought that 7" tablets are sweet spot in size.

I can agree with that. It looks great.


Not to be PreMature, its not a Surface for sure. But for 200 bux, DAMN
 

Jb07

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So what's so hot about Jelly Bean? I've read a couple of "Leap Frog" post that are content free.

Overall smoothness of the UI should be better. An updated notification center and a redone Google Voice Search are big features too.
 

maflynn

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Sounds like 4.1 and iOS 6 bring some much needed performance upgrades and polish
The difference is perception, Google made it a point upgrade, where as Apple has a full version upgrade and so far there does not seem to be a lot of substance to warrant the full version upgrade.

To be honest, I haven't followed the iOS 6 stories all that close but from what I have read, reception has been somewhat luke warm it seems
 

nuckinfutz

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To be honest, I haven't followed the iOS 6 stories all that close but from what I have read, reception has been somewhat luke warm it seems

Have you heard this from a developer? Let's be honest the needs of developers of iOS vary wildly from what the typical user on MR needs.

What could be considered "boring" to an end user could be essential for a developer where time is money.

End in the end a developer can call a release whatever they want but consumer confusion will ensue if a seemingly small update suddenly changes or prevents features from being used.

For instance the iOS 6 maps have a Transit API and a whole new Map backend. If Apple called the next iOS version with this 5.5 it could potentially confuse people who have 5.1 and want to know why their maps look different or where the Transit downloads are.

In the end the flashy stuff isn't the core level stuff its the UI stuff but the core level stuff really forms the foundation of what you can do in Android and iOS.
 
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maflynn

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Have you heard this from a developer? Let's be honest the needs of developers of iOS vary wildly from what the typical user on MR needs.
I don't have iOS6 and I've only followed in a peripheral sort of way. The negative knocks on iOS6 has been what I've seen here. Tbh, its along the lines that this is a major update? Under the hood stuff isn't sexy, but is needed. By the same token, does that sort of stuff warrant a major release number as consumers expect new features when they hear about a major new release
 

Jb07

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I don't have iOS6 and I've only followed in a peripheral sort of way. The negative knocks on iOS6 has been what I've seen here. Tbh, its along the lines that this is a major update? Under the hood stuff isn't sexy, but is needed. By the same token, does that sort of stuff warrant a major release number as consumers expect new features when they hear about a major new release

I have that same feeling that iOS 6 isn't as big an update as iOS 4 and 5 were. I was hoping for some cool new features and maybe a little redesign. I was looking for something that could convince me to make the switch to iOS, but it didn't happen. Facebook & Twitter integration has been on Android for ages, and the new maps update isn't magical. Passbook seems like the coolest iOS 6 feature, but it's not enough to switch.
With the Jellybean announcement, I'm definitely staying on Android.
 

DingleButt

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I have that same feeling that iOS 6 isn't as big an update as iOS 4 and 5 were. I was hoping for some cool new features and maybe a little redesign. I was looking for something that could convince me to make the switch to iOS, but it didn't happen. Facebook & Twitter integration has been on Android for ages, and the new maps update isn't magical. Passbook seems like the coolest iOS 6 feature, but it's not enough to switch.
With the Jellybean announcement, I'm definitely staying on Android.

Same feeling here. With Jelly Bean and WP8 I think iOS has lost its edge.

Maps seem worse than Google or Bing from whats been shown and what people have said.
Passbook is beaten by Wallet on WP8 from what was shown (My opinion is that all are a gimmick for the time being until companies get on track).
Facebook integration. Well we know thats been on the other OS's for ages and Im not a huge user of FB/Twitter anyways.
Siri looks like its been beat by Google Now for what Id use it for if I would ever use any of it. I dont see it as a feature that would sway me.

I have an upgrade ready right now but Im holding off for the next iPhone, WP8 and Jelly Bean phones. All the OS's look good enough for me at this point, but Im leaning toward WP8 so I can go all in with XBOX, Win8, WP8 and try that out since Ive done Android and iOS already.
 

Jb07

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Same feeling here. With Jelly Bean and WP8 I think iOS has lost its edge.

Maps seem worse than Google or Bing from whats been shown and what people have said.
Passbook is beaten by Wallet on WP8 from what was shown (My opinion is that all are a gimmick for the time being until companies get on track).
Facebook integration. Well we know thats been on the other OS's for ages and Im not a huge user of FB/Twitter anyways.
Siri looks like its been beat by Google Now for what Id use it for if I would ever use any of it. I dont see it as a feature that would sway me.

I have an upgrade ready right now but Im holding off for the next iPhone, WP8 and Jelly Bean phones. All the OS's look good enough for me at this point, but Im leaning toward WP8 so I can go all in with XBOX, Win8, WP8 and try that out since Ive done Android and iOS already.

I agree. I give iOS and iPhones 2 more years before sales really top out and they begin a slow decline. Right now the iPhone 5 (or 6) is really highly anticipated, but if Apple can't deliver... it's Android's and WP8's game. Most people I know that have iPhones are waiting to see the new iPhone but are contemplating switching. It's really becoming an easier decision to switch, especially at the rate that Android is maturing.

On another note: WP8 looks awesome! Is there an official release date that has been announced? My contract is up in October so I'm hoping it will be out by then.
 
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