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Anyone else wondering where the hell the first firmware update is?

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BruiserBear

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Weren't they going to fix all these wifi problems with an update? Mine is still occasionally flaky and it's getting a little old now. I think they've had enough time to fix this.


Seriously. 2 months.
 
BruiserBear said:
Wouldn't that seem a little ridiculous considering this is affecting the usability of the device for thousands of people who own them?
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yep of course,

but seeing as they're working their butts off trying to get 4.0 out, then they don't care about a 3.2.1 for us ipadders,

we're the ones paying the most for our iOS devices, yet we have to wait until fall to get 4.0

its pretty ridiculous, considering the wifi problems, which i am a victim of.
 
Caolan96 said:
yep of course,

but seeing as they're working their butts off trying to get 4.0 out, then they don't care about a 3.2.1 for us ipadders,

we're the ones paying the most for our iOS devices, yet we have to wait until fall to get 4.0

its pretty ridiculous, considering the wifi problems, which i am a victim of.
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When I first got my iPad on April 30, I had the wifi problem quite often. I was using the verizon fios router that came with the installation. I have since replaced the router with my old blue linksys wireless g router. Since doing that I have not had a connection problem. That would lead me to believe that the router problem is more router-related than iPad-related.
 
My Wifi issue was my router as well. BT Home Hub 2.0.

Started fine but gradually reception and drop outs worsened. Even my phone started to become similarly affected. Checking my home hub config showed tons of instances of the iPad. Deleting all these, giving the iPad a static IP and a name fixed the problem.

No problems now.
 
Blorzoga said:
When I first got my iPad on April 30, I had the wifi problem quite often. I was using the verizon fios router that came with the installation. I have since replaced the router with my old blue linksys wireless g router. Since doing that I have not had a connection problem. That would lead me to believe that the router problem is more router-related than iPad-related.
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Your post would lead me to believe you don't know what you're talking about.


I own a very common D-Link router, and it works perfectly fine with every single device in my home. Those devices would include an iMac, two iPhones, Xbox 360, PS3, and a Wii.

So you're going to tell me that because the iPad doesn't work that well with my router, it must be the router that is the problem, and not the iPad's shoddy wifi software?

Think about that.
 
I'm holding out for the possibility of an interim firmware for iPad around the time 4.0 comes out for iPhone and Touch.

But then I was holding out for a similar firmware announcement at the WWDC keynote...
 
I doubt we will see a firmware update before 4.0 because Apple is selling every iPad they make so there is no rush for them to fix it.

I would be more worried them not being able to fix it. My original iPhone had poor cellular and wifi reception due to the all metal back similar to the iPad. That was never fixed until they changed to a plastic back.
 
I am using two networks in my house both of them using Apple basestations and running the N standard. One basestation is a dual-band Time Capsule that is extended to a AEBS that also serves duty as a BS (no pun intended) for my iPhone and the one lonely PC that gets absolutely no love. The other network runs the N standard using Airport Extremes in extended mode. I have had no drops, or flaky wifi issues. It could be that there are some driver issues that hopefully Apple will address soon.
 
People think that wee should get 4.0 at the same time as iphone but did you ever think we are getting more in our 4.0? Think about it, most of apples engineers didn't even know the iPad existed. So i expect to see a clock app, updated apple remote, stock app, updated calendar and contact app. If you notice a lot of those that i mentioned were kind of half done and not that polished. That is why the ipad will be later. If we were getting the same exact update as the other i devices we would be getting them at the same time
 
BruiserBear said:
Your post would lead me to believe you don't know what you're talking about.


I own a very common D-Link router, and it works perfectly fine with every single device in my home. Those devices would include an iMac, two iPhones, Xbox 360, PS3, and a Wii.

So you're going to tell me that because the iPad doesn't work that well with my router, it must be the router that is the problem, and not the iPad's shoddy wifi software?

Think about that.
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Sorry the other poster is correct, you are incorrect. The problem with FIOS routers was already identified.

As someone who used to work for verizon setting up their routers I can easily say the routers they use are crap and give lots of problems for various devices.

I was hoping things changed but hearing about many FIOS router problems (not just on iPad mind you) it sounds like things are still the same.

Not to mention most of the time it IS the router thats the problem with different devices connecting (XBoxes, iPads, Wiis, etc). There was a period of time a few years ago where Belkin routers wouldn't recognize anything that wasn't running windows, and Belkins tech support's first suggestion was "Try another brand router".
 
Speaking of OS updates

Please help me out here... my brain is a bit fried this morning :)

I just sent my 85 year old mother an iPad that I set up with family photos, etc. (She's very excited to have her very own computer for the first time.)

I already have resigned myself to the fact that they won't be able to update the photos onboard from my father's computer, because of Apple's insistence that iTunes only sync those one direction.

But... is she now going to be unable to use my father's laptop to even get OS updates? In other words, won't an OS update wipe out all the pictures already onboard, since my father's laptop won't have a copy of them?

Am I going to need to either never update her, or will I have to fly down and bring a copy of all the photo files to my father to put on his laptop? Or can I pull them off locally with some app?

Thanks in advance!

PS. I sure wish Apple had independent OTA OS updates like other systems such as WebOS.
 
kdarling said:
Please help me out here... my brain is a bit fried this morning :)

I just sent my 85 year old mother an iPad that I set up with family photos, etc. (She's very excited to have her very own computer for the first time.)

I already have resigned myself to the fact that they won't be able to update the photos onboard from my father's computer, because of Apple's insistence that iTunes only sync those one direction.

But... is she now going to be unable to use my father's laptop to even get OS updates? In other words, won't an OS update wipe out all the pictures already onboard, since my father's laptop won't have a copy of them?

Am I going to need to either never update her, or will I have to fly down and bring a copy of all the photo files to my father to put on his laptop? Or can I pull them off locally with some app?

Thanks in advance!

PS. I sure wish Apple had independent OTA OS updates like other systems such as WebOS.
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I don't think it will wipe out photos if your parents connect it to their computer. The first time they try to sync it will ask them if you want your photos, contacts, apps, songs, etc. transferred to their computer. The key is the iTunes account on the iPad and iTunes on the computer need to match.

I tried this with my iPhone a few months back when my computer died and it worked great.
 
BruiserBear said:
Weren't they going to fix all these wifi problems with an update? Mine is still occasionally flaky and it's getting a little old now. I think they've had enough time to fix this.


Seriously. 2 months.
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Seriously. As an owner of the first iPod touch when it came out, every other firmware release had wifi issues. Apple replaced my touch a couple of times but finally said wait for new firmware. So I had to wait a few months for the next release with no guarantee that it would get fixed. It did though until the next release screwed it up again. Then yet another released fixed it again.

You just have to be patient.
 
skubish said:
I would be more worried them not being able to fix it. My original iPhone had poor cellular and wifi reception due to the all metal back similar to the iPad. That was never fixed until they changed to a plastic back.
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Apple has already admitted it's a SOFTWARE issue. Also, some Universities have already researched it themselves and they were noting that the device was not renewing IP addresses which was one of the problems. So there is no doubt this can be fixed with software. It's just a matter of Apple releasing a patch, and there is no reason they can't do that in 2 months time.

sapporobaby said:
I am using two networks in my house both of them using Apple basestations and running the N standard. One basestation is a dual-band Time Capsule that is extended to a AEBS that also serves duty as a BS (no pun intended) for my iPhone and the one lonely PC that gets absolutely no love. The other network runs the N standard using Airport Extremes in extended mode. I have had no drops, or flaky wifi issues. It could be that there are some driver issues that hopefully Apple will address soon.
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Sorry, but what does your 2 router setup in your own home not having any problems, have to do with the rest of us waiting for a firmware update to fix OUR problems?

I just bought a new car a couple months ago. I thought you might like to know that.

chrono1081 said:
Sorry the other poster is correct, you are incorrect. The problem with FIOS routers was already identified.

As someone who used to work for verizon setting up their routers I can easily say the routers they use are crap and give lots of problems for various devices.

I was hoping things changed but hearing about many FIOS router problems (not just on iPad mind you) it sounds like things are still the same.

Not to mention most of the time it IS the router thats the problem with different devices connecting (XBoxes, iPads, Wiis, etc). There was a period of time a few years ago where Belkin routers wouldn't recognize anything that wasn't running windows, and Belkins tech support's first suggestion was "Try another brand router".
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I think you're misunderstanding what I was responding to. The poster I responded to seemed to suggest that all our of iPad wifi issues were related to our routers. This is utter nonsense, as I have various devices with completely different operating systems and abilities, and all of them work fine, EXCEPT for the iPad.

Not to mention Apple has already admitted this wifi problem is a SOFTWARE PROBLEM and they stated they are working on resolving it with a firmware update. The only purpose of this thread was to ask why the heck it hasn't shown up yet, as it's absolutely ridiculous that they'd leave these problems unresolved a full 2 months after release.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/...-ipad-wifi-issues-in-future-software-update/3
 
BruiserBear said:
Apple has already admitted it's a SOFTWARE issue. Also, some Universities have already researched it themselves and they were noting that the device was not renewing IP addresses which was one of the problems. So there is no doubt this can be fixed with software. It's just a matter of Apple releasing a patch, and there is no reason they can't do that in 2 months time.



Sorry, but what does your 2 router setup in your own home not having any problems, have to do with the rest of us waiting for a firmware update to fix OUR problems?

I just bought a new car a couple months ago. I thought you might like to know that.



I think you're misunderstanding what I was responding to. The poster I responded to seemed to suggest that all our of iPad wifi issues were related to our routers. This is utter nonsense, as I have various devices with completely different operating systems and abilities, and all of them work fine, EXCEPT for the iPad.

Not to mention Apple has already admitted this wifi problem is a SOFTWARE PROBLEM and they stated they are working on resolving it with a firmware update. The only purpose of this thread was to ask why the heck it hasn't shown up yet, as it's absolutely ridiculous that they'd leave these problems unresolved a full 2 months after release.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/...-ipad-wifi-issues-in-future-software-update/3
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I was making the point that you missed (sorry I went to fast for you) that it is not necessarily a router issue as my iPad decides which one it wants to work with based on the signal strength in my house. Also, not everyone is having wifi issues. It seems to be hit or miss with some iPads. I promise to go slower next time and to explain everything in FULL detail so there is nothing left to chance.
 
sapporobaby said:
I was making the point that you missed (sorry I went to fast for you) that it is not necessarily a router issue as my iPad decides which one it wants to work with based on the signal strength in my house. Also, not everyone is having wifi issues. It seems to be hit or miss with some iPads. I promise to go slower next time and to explain everything in FULL detail so there is nothing left to chance.
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Nope, you still don't get it.


Because you are not experiencing issues with your iPad, doesn't really mean jack squat for the rest of us who are. Got it?

Apple HAS ADMITTED there is a software issue they are going to address that correct these problems some of us are experiencing. This thread is about that firmware update. It's NOT about you and the fact that you aren't experiencing any issues. Just like this thread is not about the fact that I bought a new car 2 months ago. That's the joke, and it went right over your head.
 
I am also surprised it is taking this long for an update... All we need is an incremental 3.2.1 release to fix the WiFi (and a couple of other teeny tiny issues.) No one should have to buy a new router, or return their iPad (which some have done on principal) over an issue so easily fixed.
 
Monk Edsel said:
I am also surprised it is taking this long for an update... All we need is an incremental 3.2.1 release to fix the WiFi (and a couple of other teeny tiny issues.) No one should have to buy a new router, or return their iPad (which some have done on principal) over an issue so easily fixed.
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Finally! Someone who gets it.
 
Quoting a certain someone, I will say "no to worry".

It's going to be here soon. It's very unlikely for me that they ll wait for ios 4.0 to fix this.
 
Okay, not everyone can be right here.

So many of you are arguing software vs hardware issue.

It can be different causes for different people,

I know apple have admitted it's a software issue, which it may be, but for some people they may have problems, change the router and the issues are fixed.

But in my instance, a week after i got my iPad, my Linksys router died, so i got a new one, but the wifi problems still remained, and on any other network i have been on, the problems are still there.

However, for some people buying a new router has worked and it was a case of the router being the problem.

Just cause apple say it is a software problem doesn't mean that it's a software problem for every single people with wifi annoyances.

This thread has gone way off topic anyway, it was simply asking when the hells the firmware update coming out, not starting an argument of what causes people's wifi problems.

so people just calm down, its different problems for different people. :)
 
BruiserBear said:
Weren't they going to fix all these wifi problems with an update? Mine is still occasionally flaky and it's getting a little old now. I think they've had enough time to fix this.


Seriously. 2 months.
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I've not had a single issue myself, but I take your point.
 
The majority of owners have fixed the issue by reconfiguring their network. Get an Airport Extreme or stop b**ching.
 
@BruiserBear,

Look dude. I can feel your frustration with a product that you spent a nice piece of change on. You want it to work when it is supposed to work. As I stated, for me, 2 weeks is a long time but who knows? Apple could drop the fix tomorrow for all we know. The one thing in your favor is that Apple does fix things. I purchased a Nokia N97 that took 6 months for them to fix all the things wrong with it. 6 months. Needless to say, I no longer purchase Nokia products unless they meet a specific need.
 
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