Anyone going to sell iphone and then buy op5?

[LovingTeddy]

In the end user experience and usability is what matters to me. Not if Apple has a 75% profit per phone and Moto G has a 25% profit.
People pay higher prices for higher quality items.
Also what it costs for the hardware components that's inside the device doesn't take into account all the software, operating system and R&D done behind it.
Its not just how much the screen, processor, battery and storage chip costs that determine how much the device is worth.

So you are saying that iPhone cost so much more because Apple spend so much more on R&D? Pufff... Are you joking?

Like I care how much Apple spend on making or developing iPhone? All I know iPhone is expensive phone and it isn't worth north of 1000CAD after tax.

Smart consumer choice what provide best value for the least amount of money.

You can pick good quality Android phone for half of iPhone cost sometimes even one third.

 

[Michael Goff]

So you are saying that iPhone cost so much more because Apple spend so much more on R&D? Pufff... Are you joking?

Like I care how much Apple spend on making or developing iPhone? All I know iPhone is expensive phone and it isn't worth north of 1000CAD after tax.

Smart consumer choice what provide best value for the least amount of money.

You can pick good quality Android phone for half of iPhone cost sometimes even one third.

Value and worth are subjective. It is obviously worth 1000CAD to some people.

 

[Applejuiced]

So you are saying that iPhone cost so much more because Apple spend so much more on R&D? Pufff... Are you joking?

Like I care how much Apple spend on making or developing iPhone? All I know iPhone is expensive phone and it isn't worth north of 1000CAD after tax.

Smart consumer choice what provide best value for the least amount of money.

You can pick good quality Android phone for half of iPhone cost sometimes even one third.

Read again what I posted. I said that I base my decision on what works better for me and not on what the internal components inside the device cost.
I dont really care how much they spend on R&D, whatever they are doing works for me and that's why I keep staying with iOS devices.
Just an individual decision and there's plenty of choices out there like you said. I dont want to pick an Android phone for half or a 3rd or based solely on the price tag, I like iphones if that's ok with you
You are free to pick whatever you like

 

[LovingTeddy]

Value and worth are subjective. It is obviously worth 1000CAD to some people.

Many people simply don't know other phone exists or they just follow whatever mainstream. Phone selection from North American carriers are too limited and all sales rep do are pushing people to iPhone or Samsung.

iPhone's global market share is north of 20 percent way below iPhone's market share in US. When there are larger phone selection, people will see the iPhone isn't worth the money

 

[michael9891]

When there are larger phone selection, people will see the iPhone isn't worth the money

With the way the internet is today, it's very easy to find out what's available to buy. Do you get true value for money with the high cost of iPhones? Maybe not. But I've tried other phones and always prefer what the iPhone and iOS offers. So in that respect, they're very much worth the money.

 

[Applejuiced]

Many people simply don't know other phone exists or they just follow whatever mainstream. Phone selection from North American carriers are too limited and all sales rep do are pushing people to iPhone or Samsung.

iPhone's global market share is north of 20 percent way below iPhone's market share in US. When there are larger phone selection, people will see the iPhone isn't worth the money

You really think people dont know that other phones exist besides the iPhone and Galaxy?
If you only go by value for the money or how much internal hardware cost then everyone would only be purchasing $300-600 windows laptops rather than Apple macbooks or Mac computers that cost 5 to 10 times as much.

 

[Michael Goff]

Many people simply don't know other phone exists or they just follow whatever mainstream. Phone selection from North American carriers are too limited and all sales rep do are pushing people to iPhone or Samsung.

iPhone's global market share is north of 20 percent way below iPhone's market share in US. When there are larger phone selection, people will see the iPhone isn't worth the money

Are you serious? Have you stepped inside a phone carrier? People know other options exist and a large number still choose iPhones. And don't throw your perspective of worth as a concrete thing. Value is not a concrete thing.

Please try to sit your bias on the rack and try again.

 

[LovingTeddy]

Are you serious? Have you stepped inside a phone carrier? People know other options exist and a large number still choose iPhones. And don't throw your perspective of worth as a concrete thing. Value is not a concrete thing.

Please try to sit your bias on the rack and try again.

Right... How many people in north American never heared about OnePlus, Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi, Meizu, Huawei, Elephone, Huawei, Le Eco? I bet you haven't heared most of them. North American market are currently dominant by two players: Apple and Samsung. Most people only know these two brand. Most carrier only carries Samsung, iPhone, Sony, LG maybe or maybe not other phone. There aren't any good mid tire phone to choose from.

It is only until recent two years, carrier start to sell Huawei and ZTE phones.

iPhone is terrible vaule when compared with Huawei P10, Mate 9 or even Honor 8. Samsung Galaxy offer far better display than any iPhone. Compare with compeotion, iPhone is just piece of overpriced crap
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You really think people dont know that other phones exist besides the iPhone and Galaxy?
If you only go by value for the money or how much internal hardware cost then everyone would only be purchasing $300-600 windows laptops rather than Apple macbooks or Mac computers that cost 5 to 10 times as much.

This is exactly why Windows laptop has been dominated the PC market share isn't it?
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With the way the internet is today, it's very easy to find out what's available to buy. Do you get true value for money with the high cost of iPhones? Maybe not. But I've tried other phones and always prefer what the iPhone and iOS offers. So in that respect, they're very much worth the money.

Sir... There is nothing iOS can do that I cannot do with my 300 dollars Android phone and you sir is just throwing your money down to the toliet and I feel sorry for you.

 

[Michael Goff]

Right... How many people in north American never heared about OnePlus, Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi, Meizu, Huawei, Elephone, Huawei, Le Eco? I bet you haven't heared most of them. North American market are currently dominant by two players: Apple and Samsung. Most people only know these two brand. Most carrier only carries Samsung, iPhone, Sony, LG maybe or maybe not other phone. There aren't any good mid tire phone to choose from.

It is only until recent two years, carrier start to sell Huawei and ZTE phones.

iPhone is terrible vaule when compared with Huawei P10, Mate 9 or even Honor 8. Samsung Galaxy offer far better display than any iPhone. Compare with compeotion, iPhone is just piece of overpriced crap
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This is exactly why Windows laptop has been dominated the PC market share isn't it?
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Sir... There is nothing iOS can do that I cannot do with my 300 dollars Android phone and you sir is just throwing your money down to the toliet and I feel sorry for you.

I knew all of those except Vivo and Elaphone. Are you forgetting about Motorola and LG? How about the Pixel on Verizon? KEYOne is in Sprint stores. And doesn't TMo carry Alcatel phones?

 

[michael9891]

Sir... There is nothing iOS can do that I cannot do with my 300 dollars Android phone and you sir is just throwing your money down to the toliet and I feel sorry for you.

Don't feel sorry for me, feel sorry for yourself. You're the one who can't understand why someone would pay more for a particular product. I also like the the way things work between my iPhone & iPad, not to mention iMessage.

Don't bother coming back with some rubbish about using WhatsApp or something else instead because it's not the same.

 

[LovingTeddy]

Don't feel sorry for me, feel sorry for yourself. You're the one who can't understand why someone would pay more for a particular product. I also like the the way things work between my iPhone & iPad, not to mention iMessage.

Don't bother coming back with some rubbish about using WhatsApp or something else instead because it's not the same.

LOL..Such foolish and brainwashed... Never ever spend more than you have to... This is why Apple can get away from its over the top price... And you feel good for getting ripped off... Good for you.

iMessage is basically ripped off message app from different platforms... Talking about sending stickers? WeChat and all together app has long before iMeesage, sending payment to other? WeChat has that long before iMessage.

Using a overpriced phone and all that basically ripped off others... Such good price to pay. Android is only thing that offer vaule and quality... All Apple's products are essentially rip off

You know why I and many people don't give a damn about iMessage? Because Apple register your phone number and you are locked in. Trying to use other phone? You gonna register your phone number and good luck with that. Wall Gardened to the finnest

 

[michael9891]

LOL..Such foolish and brainwashed... Never ever spend more than you have to... This is why Apple can get away from its over the top price... And you feel good for getting ripped off... Good for you.

iMessage is basically ripped off message app from different platforms... Talking about sending stickers? WeChat and all together app has long before iMeesage, sending payment to other? WeChat has that long before iMessage.

Using a overpriced phone and all that basically ripped off others... Such good price to pay. Android is only thing that offer vaule and quality... All Apple's products are essentially rip off

You know why I and many people don't give a damn about iMessage? Because Apple register your phone number and you are locked in. Trying to use other phone? You gonna register your phone number and good luck with that. Wall Gardened to the finnest

I've tried plenty of other phones, who are you to tell me what I prefer? It's my right to buy what I prefer, not what some random stranger thinks I should buy.

What crap are you talking about Apple locking my phone number? I've very easily put my SIM card in android phones that I use with my iPhone.

Your post just looks like the ramblings of someone is clearly very bitter. Why are you even here if you hate Apple so much?

 

[LovingTeddy]

I've tried plenty of other phones, who are you to tell me what I prefer? It's my right to buy what I prefer, not what some random stranger thinks I should buy.

What crap are you talking about Apple locking my phone number? I've very easily put my SIM card in android phones that I use with my iPhone.

Your post just looks like the ramblings of someone is clearly very bitter. Why are you even here if you hate Apple so much?

Well... I never need go to manufacturers website for deregister my phone number so I can receive freaking text message. All you text message will route to iMessage when someone using iPhone sending you text message. There was a class action lawsuit for that. Only Apple can get away with that simply because people are happy to be ripped off by Apple.

 

[michael9891]

At the end of the day, iPhones are great phones. And if people want to pay a bit extra to own one, that's fair enough. To call them crap is a bit of a silly thing to say. Always had a great user experience with them, so until something comes along I personally find better, I'll keep on buying them. Haters gonna hate.

 

[Applejuiced]

I dont know, personally I wouldn't purchase a $3000 Mac since I can do fine with a $300-400 Windows laptop.
But others have a need or like to enjoy higher end devices.
There's options out there for everyone.
Not everyone wants to drive Corolla's and get the best bang for their buck. Some like having BMW's, Porsche and Ferrari's

This is exactly why Windows laptop has been dominated the PC market share isn't it?

 

[BigMcGuire]

As someone who has used both Android (HEAVILY) and iOS.... I have chosen iOS because it is a better product, better software, better hardware. iMessage is worth its weight in gold because there is NOTHING out there that can do what it can do. Anyone who has actually used both would know this. Google Voice comes close but it is not as reliable or as quick.

I can answer phone calls, text messages, iMessages on any Apple device I have whether it be my iPad, my Mac Mini, my Macbook Air - and I regularly do.

Apps on iOS are far more refined, far less bug/crash free, and feel a lot more premium than applications on Android.

As someone who has used both (I had the HTC MyTouch, Droid1, and spent countless hours beta-testing Roms and helping users root their phones on DroidForums.net) .... Apple is better for me and I think it is better overall. Yes, it's a premium product, but I think it is worth the price. Doesn't keep me from trying out Android's latest and greatest - which I do every year (thanks to coworkers who let me borrow their phones, etc...).

Everyone is allowed an opinion. But it's better to have an opinion when you've actually tried and used both. There is a reason why Apple is successful.



Side Note: As someone who had to change his number due to the iMessage lockout (when I left my iPhone 4s for a Samsung Note 3) - yeah I think that was a bad one on Apple's part. I think it's stupid that it took a lawsuit for them to finally allow a number to be deregistered from their iMessage system.

For those that don't know - if you ever left Apple for Android (many years ago) - Apple users would try to text your number and since you used to have an iPhone, it would try to iMessage you. And since reverting to SMS if iMessage failed was turned OFF by default, you'd never get their text message - but they'd get yours. This would continue to happen until you let ALL of your Apple friends know that they had to turn on Send SMS if iMessage fails. Or, in my case, since 99% of my friends/family are Apple, I just changed my number (I later de-registered my old number when Apple gave the ability to - to be nice to whoever got it).

iMessage is a GREAT great tool. I just hate how if you have Android friends, group messages never work. So I use Telegram most of the time.

 

[zone23]

As someone who has used both Android (HEAVILY) and iOS.... I have chosen iOS because it is a better product, better software, better hardware. iMessage is worth its weight in gold because there is NOTHING out there that can do what it can do. Anyone who has actually used both would know this. Google Voice comes close but it is not as reliable or as quick.

I can answer phone calls, text messages, iMessages on any Apple device I have whether it be my iPad, my Mac Mini, my Macbook Air - and I regularly do.

Apps on iOS are far more refined, far less bug/crash free, and feel a lot more premium than applications on Android.

As someone who has used both (I had the HTC MyTouch, Droid1, and spent countless hours beta-testing Roms and helping users root their phones on DroidForums.net) .... Apple is better for me and I think it is better overall. Yes, it's a premium product, but I think it is worth the price. Doesn't keep me from trying out Android's latest and greatest - which I do every year (thanks to coworkers who let me borrow their phones, etc...).

Everyone is allowed an opinion. But it's better to have an opinion when you've actually tried and used both. There is a reason why Apple is successful.



Side Note: As someone who had to change his number due to the iMessage lockout (when I left my iPhone 4s for a Samsung Note 3) - yeah I think that was a bad one on Apple's part. I think it's stupid that it took a lawsuit for them to finally allow a number to be deregistered from their iMessage system.

For those that don't know - if you ever left Apple for Android (many years ago) - Apple users would try to text your number and since you used to have an iPhone, it would try to iMessage you. And since reverting to SMS if iMessage failed was turned OFF by default, you'd never get their text message - but they'd get yours. This would continue to happen until you let ALL of your Apple friends know that they had to turn on Send SMS if iMessage fails. Or, in my case, since 99% of my friends/family are Apple, I just changed my number (I later de-registered my old number when Apple gave the ability to - to be nice to whoever got it).

iMessage is a GREAT great tool. I just hate how if you have Android friends, group messages never work. So I use Telegram most of the time.

So did you sell your iPhone for the OP5 or not? I not really following how your post is at all relevant to the question..

 

[BigMcGuire]

So did you sell your iPhone for the OP5 or not? I not really following how your post is at all relevant to the question..

I was replying to the last 10 or so posts that seemed to deal with an Android user bashing Apple - I was responding to his post about iMessage locking and the user responding to it. I think it's very relevant in context. (LovingTeddy) and (michael9891).

 

[zone23]

I was replying to the last 10 or so posts that seemed to deal with an Android user bashing Apple - I was responding to his post about iMessage locking and the user responding to it. I think it's very relevant in context. (LovingTeddy) and (michael9891).

I assume you're actually reading the posts in this thread?

Okay I gotcha I was just like what is this guy talking about, but makes sense now.

 

[BigMcGuire]

Okay I gotcha I was just like what is this guy talking about, but makes sense now.

Ah ok - sorry bout the harshness in my post.

I agree I am assisting an off topic spin lol. Thanks!

 

[zone23]

Ah ok - sorry bout the harshness in my post.

I agree I am assisting an off topic spin lol. Thanks!

I didn't read it as harsh so its cool.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

LOL..Such foolish and brainwashed... Never ever spend more than you have to... This is why Apple can get away from its over the top price... And you feel good for getting ripped off... Good for you.

iMessage is basically ripped off message app from different platforms... Talking about sending stickers? WeChat and all together app has long before iMeesage, sending payment to other? WeChat has that long before iMessage.

Using a overpriced phone and all that basically ripped off others... Such good price to pay. Android is only thing that offer vaule and quality... All Apple's products are essentially rip off

You know why I and many people don't give a damn about iMessage? Because Apple register your phone number and you are locked in. Trying to use other phone? You gonna register your phone number and good luck with that. Wall Gardened to the finnest

You sound slightly more angry about this than the usual consumer who is happy buying what they like. If I didn't know any better I'd say you wish you could afford the phone you really want and are simply angry about it, so you're hitting out at people. Throwing around words like 'foolish' and 'brainwashed' gives it away.

I don't even buy the latest iPhone these days as I think it's overpriced, but I vote with my wallet and buy the older model. I haven't seen an Android device that ticks all the boxes for 'my' own needs and tastes so contrary to your misinformed point of view, I am happy with iOS and and safe in the knowledge I am paying what I feel is worthy.

 

[Michael Goff]

You sound slightly more angry about this than the usual consumer who is happy buying what they like. If I didn't know any better I'd say you wish you could afford the phone you really want and are simply angry about it, so you're hitting out at people. Throwing around words like 'foolish' and 'brainwashed' gives it away.

I don't even buy the latest iPhone these days as I think it's overpriced, but I vote with my wallet and buy the older model. I haven't seen an Android device that ticks all the boxes for 'my' own needs and tastes so contrary to your misinformed point of view, I am happy with iOS and and safe in the knowledge I am paying what I feel is worthy.

I don't think this is a case of being unable to buy one. I simply think this is a case of a person who thinks they know something others don't and becomes angry that anyone would buy something they "know" is inferior.

The person is angry people buy iPhones.

 

[M5RahuL]

Sound like a good plan?

LOL.. No!

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I don't think this is a case of being unable to buy one. I simply think this is a case of a person who thinks they know something others don't and becomes angry that anyone would buy something they "know" is inferior.

The person is angry people buy iPhones.

I've never understood these people. Why the hell care so passionately what other people choose to spend their money on?