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anyone have a pioneer kuro plasma?

illtype said:
thanks for the info. do you know how many hours the tv is suppose to last. i know plasma does not last as long as lcd? do you have any pics of your setup? do you have it wall mounted?
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It's something like 600,000 hours or something like that... if I remember correctly. I think that's like 60 years straight. Like basesloaded said though, head over to avsforum... they are the experts in this field.



basesloaded190 said:
Visit AVS Forums.com they have all the info you need for ANY tv you want to know about!
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venasque said:
Hi there. Could you go into more detail about this breaking in thing? It's the first I've ever heard that term in regards to a new tv. How does it work? Why does it help?

Thanks
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You essentially run a slideshow that displays solid color screens for 1 min at a time. It ensures even initial wear of each of the colors on the set. I ran the break-in images all night for a week or so and made sure not to pause for an extended period or watch too many "black bar" programs during the day. As someone stated, AVS forum has all the details.
 
FWIW, Pioneer is now exclusively using Panasonic panels in all of their plasmas, so you are paying for the Pioneer more than anything when you get it. Panasonic has also started selling Samsung their panels to use in their plasmas. Panasonic is by far the best plasma that you can buy, nothing against Pioneer or Samsung, Panasonic just makes a superior product in my opinion. They just recently released an LCD for the first time in a number of years. They have the plasma market cornered and anyone who thinks an LCD looks better, has to be blind. Plasmas simply by the way they are made, will not have the blur that LCDs are commonly known for and can be reproduced at will.

I personally own two different Panny plasmas - TH-42PX75U (720p) and TH-46PZ80U (1080p). From a viewing distance of 10ft or so, you cannot seel a noticeable difference in picture. However at anything closer than 5ft, the 1080 takes over. For the price point (TH-42PX80U is $649 at Fry's right now), the Panasonic Plasmas cannot be beat and I recommend them to anyone who is looking to go High Def.
 
rw3 said:
FWIW, Pioneer is now exclusively using Panasonic panels in all of their plasmas, so you are paying for the Pioneer more than anything when you get it. Panasonic has also started selling Samsung their panels to use in their plasmas. Panasonic is by far the best plasma that you can buy, nothing against Pioneer or Samsung, Panasonic just makes a superior product in my opinion. They just recently released an LCD for the first time in a number of years. They have the plasma market cornered and anyone who thinks an LCD looks better, has to be blind. Plasmas simply by the way they are made, will not have the blur that LCDs are commonly known for and can be reproduced at will.

I personally own two different Panny plasmas - TH-42PX75U (720p) and TH-46PZ80U (1080p). From a viewing distance of 10ft or so, you cannot seel a noticeable difference in picture. However at anything closer than 5ft, the 1080 takes over. For the price point (TH-42PX80U is $649 at Fry's right now), the Panasonic Plasmas cannot be beat and I recommend them to anyone who is looking to go High Def.
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I also own a Panasonic Plasma, and I can tell you that this is not true from what I've seen and information I've gathered. The new Pioneers do use Panasonic glass, but there are other aspects of the Kuro which allow it to create deeper blacks than any Panasonic can. I'd agree that Panasonic is the second best Plasma set, and certainly the best sets as far as 'bang for the buck' goes... but no, they are not superior to the Pioneer Kuros. They have slightly less picture quality, for considerably less money.

This can be verified in any number of online review sites as well as avsforum.com. If you don't believe it, go to the store and compare them for yourself.

BTW, that $649 price at Fry's is amazing. I've got the 50 for my living room, maybe I need a 42" for my den!?!?!
 
fivepoint said:
I also own a Panasonic Plasma, and I can tell you that this is not true from what I've seen and information I've gathered. The new Pioneers do use Panasonic glass, but there are other aspects of the Kuro which allow it to create deeper blacks than any Panasonic can. I'd agree that Panasonic is the second best Plasma set, and certainly the best sets as far as 'bang for the buck' goes... but no, they are not superior to the Pioneer Kuros. They have slightly less picture quality, for considerably less money.

This can be verified in any number of online review sites as well as avsforum.com. If you don't believe it, go to the store and compare them for yourself.

BTW, that $649 price at Fry's is amazing. I've got the 50 for my living room, maybe I need a 42" for my den!?!?!
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Own a panasonic too, and agree with you. Its not like panasonic is making these tvs and putting a pioneer label on them and sellling them for more...
 
Scandals said:
I'm just saying that claiming that burn-in is a non-issue is misleading. It can and does happen. Be careful.
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The Kuro's have a pixel shifting technology to avoid the Burn in. You can turn it off, but I haven't found a need to.

I think the next generation of Pioneers (10g panels) are supposed to have the Panasonic glass. The reality is that Pioneer has essentially outsourced the glass manufacturing to Panasonic since they are so much bigger. They are also sharing patents from the Kuro technology, so the next gen Panny's should be much deeper black as well.

AVS forums is great as everyone has told you. You find out the real deal from the official Kuro threads. It's a long read though. Very technical!
 
I bought the 5010FD back in May and it is an awesome TV. I paid 3k for it and I am very happy with my purchase. Don't be worried about burn in. I have my 360 hooked up to it and it looks phenomenal. Believe me, you'll be very happy with your purchase.
 
As previously stated, the Pioneer uses a Panasonic Panel (Glass, etc). The Pioneer certainly has better boards controlling the panel, hence the better detail and black levels. I've had my TV calibrated professionally and I must say, I'll take the TV over the Pioneer anyday, simply because of price point and nothing else. For the money, Panasonic is the best bang for the buck.

LCDs are crap, period. PLASMAs are long and far beyond LCDs if you take into consideration performance, color, and overall PQ IMO. I would buy nothing else for anyone and I recommend nothing else to those I do work for.
 
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