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Phones Anyone here tried out a Galaxy Nexus
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It doesn't matter which apps it happens in...the point is it happens. That's the bottom line. No need to attempt to qualify it. The button moves depending on the app you're in, simple as that.
Yeah I never understood what the big fuss was over the menu button moving. Different developers and different apps. What can you do about that? At least it offers a menu button.
Like I said before many of the complaints of android are growing slimmer and desperate.
Yeah, especially people like Troyboy who find fault with it, then in the same breath, excuse it in iOS.
A few people are doing this. I noticed another common complaint being app compatibility with JB. This is something that happens with any OS update. Things are going to be broken and the developer will need to fix it. Hell, these very forums put together compatibility lists in a dedicated thread whenever a new version of iOS comes out. Why is this ok, yet Android is held to some higher standard were OS updates are not allowed to break apps?
I am going to wait and see what Apple unveils this fall but I have been considering trying a nexus myself. I'd wait until the fall either way, as a new Nexus will drop probably within weeks of the new iPhone. I'm not going to slag one OS or the other- but I think I actually just want to learn more about Android and step out of the iOS ecosystem for a bit. I'd probably be back but I'd really like to learn more about Android first hand. I was also considering a Nexus 7 so I wouldn't be tied to any contracts while I play around with a new OS.
youre totally misunderstanding what im saying. im not talking about apps, im talking about the OS. ios does not have a menu button that shows up in the os. you have to go into settings. in android the menu button follows you around. its never in the same place twice. apps are different. the designer of the app can put stuff where ever they want. that makes sense. building your core os with no consistency does not.
Ok just a comparison update. I own both an iPhone 4 running 5.0.1 jailbroken (for ncsettings, activator, pwntunes and ifile, no customization) and a galaxy nexus stock 4.1.1 jellybean.
I was going to sell the iPhone 4 even though i considered keeping it as a backup, but now i am not going to sell it and will keep it because i encountered a few hiccups which i also saw on my captivate and SGS2 previously.
First, JB is insanely fast compared to GB or ICS, but there is still lag in place you would least expect. The keyboard is laggy at times, even with swiftkey it is quite apparent and i am not testing a gazillion keyboards because the stock one has issues. Should be fixed but will take time unfortunately from google.
Similarly auto rotation takes 1-2 seconds extra compared to my iPhone 4. Chrome, dolphin and opera tend to freeze at times (happened twice this morning while reading verge) and it is annoying. While safari on my iPhone crashed a few times during my many months usage, it never froze as the browsers tend to "stick" to their place for good.
Lack of holo apps is still very apparent despite ICS being released for a good 8 months now. You are using an aesthetically pleasing and user friendly UI and open an app and bam, disjointed mess. Now the iPhone has its fair share of ugly apps too mind you, but 99% of the time i can find an alternative which adopts a very clean and decent feel while not piling all the features on the front page to make it frustrating.
This is hardware but camera is comparable to my iPhone 4. I was skeptical before buying but people whine way too much about it. It is fine for a 5 mp old sensor. Screen is quite good. I barely see any difference between iPhone's retina and the nexus 720p screen. Text is sharp and photos look clear and good.
Build quality wise it is so so. It is not as bad as the galaxy S2 surprisingly though. The feel in hand is pretty good but not as premium feeling as the "shatter prone glass" in iPhone. I have dropped my iPhone 4 times in the lat 2 months and only have had a scratch and still don't want a case on it, same with the nexus, so while many will quickly jump to "glass breaks hurr", i think i prefer the glass feel of the iPhone more than the plastic samsung feel. HTC One X is also plastic and i had one, but the build quality was miles ahead of the galaxy nexus IMO.
IN short, will i keep it? Probably yeah. I'll keep both actually because there is a chance i might sell it after all. Android is great, but the iOS and iPhone combination is still very formidable and there is a reason they are slowly increasing market share and holding their own against the onlaught of other OEMs. It is mainly the iOS quirks and iron fist behavior that is the driving force for me to android after being a symbian user for years. While android delivers, it has its own quirks which i come to hate as well.
With its rumored deep integration with windows, all the new hardware support and software issues ironed out like mass storage, SD support, iOS style multi-tasking and back grounding for all apps, good cloud features, and a consistent app UI through out, i think i am leaning towards the next lumia running WP8 than a new galaxy with JB. I just wish they weren't taking their time till November. Such a long wait.
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iOS does have menu button. Ever looking at a picture in iOS photos app and see that arrow coming out of a bin icon? It is present in safari and youtube too. And apps like camera etc have an "options" button on the main UI which is akin to settings/menu.
I was going to sell the iPhone 4 even though i considered keeping it as a backup, but now i am not going to sell it and will keep it because i encountered a few hiccups which i also saw on my captivate and SGS2 previously.
First, JB is insanely fast compared to GB or ICS, but there is still lag in place you would least expect. The keyboard is laggy at times, even with swiftkey it is quite apparent and i am not testing a gazillion keyboards because the stock one has issues. Should be fixed but will take time unfortunately from google.
Similarly auto rotation takes 1-2 seconds extra compared to my iPhone 4. Chrome, dolphin and opera tend to freeze at times (happened twice this morning while reading verge) and it is annoying. While safari on my iPhone crashed a few times during my many months usage, it never froze as the browsers tend to "stick" to their place for good.
Lack of holo apps is still very apparent despite ICS being released for a good 8 months now. You are using an aesthetically pleasing and user friendly UI and open an app and bam, disjointed mess. Now the iPhone has its fair share of ugly apps too mind you, but 99% of the time i can find an alternative which adopts a very clean and decent feel while not piling all the features on the front page to make it frustrating.
This is hardware but camera is comparable to my iPhone 4. I was skeptical before buying but people whine way too much about it. It is fine for a 5 mp old sensor. Screen is quite good. I barely see any difference between iPhone's retina and the nexus 720p screen. Text is sharp and photos look clear and good.
Build quality wise it is so so. It is not as bad as the galaxy S2 surprisingly though. The feel in hand is pretty good but not as premium feeling as the "shatter prone glass" in iPhone. I have dropped my iPhone 4 times in the lat 2 months and only have had a scratch and still don't want a case on it, same with the nexus, so while many will quickly jump to "glass breaks hurr", i think i prefer the glass feel of the iPhone more than the plastic samsung feel. HTC One X is also plastic and i had one, but the build quality was miles ahead of the galaxy nexus IMO.
IN short, will i keep it? Probably yeah. I'll keep both actually because there is a chance i might sell it after all. Android is great, but the iOS and iPhone combination is still very formidable and there is a reason they are slowly increasing market share and holding their own against the onlaught of other OEMs. It is mainly the iOS quirks and iron fist behavior that is the driving force for me to android after being a symbian user for years. While android delivers, it has its own quirks which i come to hate as well.
With its rumored deep integration with windows, all the new hardware support and software issues ironed out like mass storage, SD support, iOS style multi-tasking and back grounding for all apps, good cloud features, and a consistent app UI through out, i think i am leaning towards the next lumia running WP8 than a new galaxy with JB. I just wish they weren't taking their time till November. Such a long wait.
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iOS does have menu button. Ever looking at a picture in iOS photos app and see that arrow coming out of a bin icon? It is present in safari and youtube too. And apps like camera etc have an "options" button on the main UI which is akin to settings/menu.
I bought a brand new Galaxy Nexus (GSM model) from Google. I used it for a day, and then went right back to the iPhone. Apple just has it figured out / makes everything integrate nicely.
1. Unified Inbox. I have my Gmail account and my work Exchange account. I didn't like going between the "email" and the "Gmail" app to get to the various accounts. I know I could have downloaded an app to combine them - but I don't feel I should have to use an add-on to supplement the OS... Also, if I delete my work account off the iPhone (that requires a PIN to unlock), I can remove that without doing anything else. On Android, I have to wipe the entire phone even after removing the e-mail account in order to get rid of the security lock setting
2. Visual voice mail. I don't get many VMs, but it's nice to be able to pick and choose / see who left what. AT&T (and T-Mobile) don't allow the use of their "official" VVM apps on the GNexus. I know I could have downloaded an app (or use Google Voice) - but, again, I don't feel I should have to use an add-on to supplement the OS...
3. Music. I couldn't get use to the Google Music app on the GNexus. It's no where near as streamlined as Apple's. Also, I tried uploading my music to Google - but the desktop app would always crash before uploading all my music.
I will say the GNexus screen (in terms of looks) was AMAZING. Speaking of the screen, the size of the whole phone was a little bit too much for me (not unbearable, but had to stretch the thumbs on occasion). It's almost in the realm of "two hands all the time." Another thing I LIKED about the GNexus was the speed. With Jellybean on there, all the menus were smooth and I never encountered lag. In the end though, I just couldn't see myself "settling" and staying with the GNexus...
1. Unified Inbox. I have my Gmail account and my work Exchange account. I didn't like going between the "email" and the "Gmail" app to get to the various accounts. I know I could have downloaded an app to combine them - but I don't feel I should have to use an add-on to supplement the OS... Also, if I delete my work account off the iPhone (that requires a PIN to unlock), I can remove that without doing anything else. On Android, I have to wipe the entire phone even after removing the e-mail account in order to get rid of the security lock setting
2. Visual voice mail. I don't get many VMs, but it's nice to be able to pick and choose / see who left what. AT&T (and T-Mobile) don't allow the use of their "official" VVM apps on the GNexus. I know I could have downloaded an app (or use Google Voice) - but, again, I don't feel I should have to use an add-on to supplement the OS...
3. Music. I couldn't get use to the Google Music app on the GNexus. It's no where near as streamlined as Apple's. Also, I tried uploading my music to Google - but the desktop app would always crash before uploading all my music.
I will say the GNexus screen (in terms of looks) was AMAZING. Speaking of the screen, the size of the whole phone was a little bit too much for me (not unbearable, but had to stretch the thumbs on occasion). It's almost in the realm of "two hands all the time." Another thing I LIKED about the GNexus was the speed. With Jellybean on there, all the menus were smooth and I never encountered lag. In the end though, I just couldn't see myself "settling" and staying with the GNexus...
I confess I was one of those "Look, Android is catching up! iOS6 is boring. Taller iPhone? Wack." people. So I bought the Nexus from Google thinking for $350 what could I lose. I liked the soft keys, didn't care that the camera was worse than my 4s (I don't take pictures often), and it was key for me that I have a Google flagship phone.
When I got the phone I noticed a few things with the Nexus that were bothering me. I couldn't get MMS from one of my friends. Just one of them. Frustrating after playing with the APN, still nothing. The wireless antenna was pretty bad, connecting and disconnecting with my router when my iPhone never has had that problem. The screen doesn't light up when I get a text, just the notification LED blinks (I thought this was really illogical and made no sense to me). The screen didn't look very good in the daylight and the auto-brightness never kicked in or else I had to hold my phone up to the light. Customizing and troubleshooting was difficult because of the amount of phones that run Android and different scenarios out there. The Play Store would lose connection and I would have to start it back up, auto-correct was pretty bad (Yeah, you can download different keyboards I get it). E-mail was also very sloppy and unattractive. The plastic build itself was a turnoff but not a dealbreaker. Also, the battery took forever to charge. iPhone users are accustomed to the battery charging very quickly. I will say I enjoyed the extra screen estate for the little time that I had it and watching videos on it is sweet. Google Now was also impressive on how fast it got me the results I wanted and didn't mistake much of my words like Siri does. I am also going to miss a native Gtalk app. But I decided to return it. After I went back to my 4s, it was like falling in love again. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
On another note though, I played with my friend's Nexus 7 and have to say it's absolutely wonderful. I have no reason to buy a tablet, but just to be lazy and never use my computer for leisure, I am tempted to buy one.
When I got the phone I noticed a few things with the Nexus that were bothering me. I couldn't get MMS from one of my friends. Just one of them. Frustrating after playing with the APN, still nothing. The wireless antenna was pretty bad, connecting and disconnecting with my router when my iPhone never has had that problem. The screen doesn't light up when I get a text, just the notification LED blinks (I thought this was really illogical and made no sense to me). The screen didn't look very good in the daylight and the auto-brightness never kicked in or else I had to hold my phone up to the light. Customizing and troubleshooting was difficult because of the amount of phones that run Android and different scenarios out there. The Play Store would lose connection and I would have to start it back up, auto-correct was pretty bad (Yeah, you can download different keyboards I get it). E-mail was also very sloppy and unattractive. The plastic build itself was a turnoff but not a dealbreaker. Also, the battery took forever to charge. iPhone users are accustomed to the battery charging very quickly. I will say I enjoyed the extra screen estate for the little time that I had it and watching videos on it is sweet. Google Now was also impressive on how fast it got me the results I wanted and didn't mistake much of my words like Siri does. I am also going to miss a native Gtalk app. But I decided to return it. After I went back to my 4s, it was like falling in love again. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
On another note though, I played with my friend's Nexus 7 and have to say it's absolutely wonderful. I have no reason to buy a tablet, but just to be lazy and never use my computer for leisure, I am tempted to buy one.
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It doesn't matter how it's there. You can find any way you want to attempt to justify it in iOS, but the fact remains, it's there. The apps it is in doesn't matter. The bottom line is the back button is in different places in different apps. Period point blank. You can't vilify one platform for having a menu button in different places, and excuse another platform for having the back button in different places. It doesn't matter about the app, it's in a different place.
I have the Nexus Sexus 7. Tweeners are for geeks to play with nothing more in my opinion. Doesn't have a reason to live because smartphones do everything better.
Here are photo comparisons between what a set of Websites look like on the Sexus compared to my iPhone 4S. They look BETTER on the iPhone 4S without any pinching and zooming: the tweener just adds weight and bulk. It's a deadend category Jobs is right.
http://s675.photobucket.com/albums/vv116/freudling/Suck It/
Here are photo comparisons between what a set of Websites look like on the Sexus compared to my iPhone 4S. They look BETTER on the iPhone 4S without any pinching and zooming: the tweener just adds weight and bulk. It's a deadend category Jobs is right.
http://s675.photobucket.com/albums/vv116/freudling/Suck It/
Again and again.. fraudling, the hero of anti-7" tablet crusade. Scientifically proving the Intenret forums wrong in their errant Nexus 7 ways. Leading the Nexus 7 masses out of the darkness. Please show us the truth, fraudling.. Our all knowing tablet hero.