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Anyone Seen A Full Streaming Radio App? (Found it: Tuner)

Yes the audio can be listened to via headphones. The streams play well using 3G but I also get occasional pausing for no reason and have to manually start the feed again.
 
sneeks said:
Yes the audio can be listened to via headphones. The streams play well using 3G but I also get occasional pausing for no reason and have to manually start the feed again.
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Yeah, it doesn't recover too well from a depleted buffer. I suspect it needs a deeper buffer altogether.
 
Has anyone else been kicked off a stream while not moving in an area with good 3G coverage? I wonder if AT&T is doing this, or if it's something else?

Also good news, I've seen many Verizon crews in the LA area adding bandwidth to AT&T cell sites in the past few days, one is near my house and they had to string wire from telephone poles to the site.
 
I recently bought the Tuner app because one of the reviews said they were able to get the WGN stream working but alas I have not been able to no matter what I try. Could anyone who has this please give it a try. The link to the stream can be found at http://www.wgnradio.com/listen Thanks in advance everyone.

Andy
 
Is it just me, or has Null River's Tuner been pulled from the App Store entirely?

Go on ... search for it ... it's not there :eek:

Which means, if you some how lose it, you can't re-download it, free.

Great.

R-Fly
 
gone

It has gone.... i'm gutted..

Hopefully they have removed it so they can update it or something

Anyway I emailed Itunes this morning and asked why.. I'll post their reply on here once i get it.
 
*Sigh* Well hopefully it'll come back, if not I guess one will need to figure out how to make a backup copy.

I noticed that my streaming troubles are mostly during morning to around 7pm, so my guess is that I'm being kicked because the cell towers can't handle the bandwidth as opposed to AT&T kicking me because they feel I'm abusing their service. I can usually pull 24kbps-48kbps streams during peak hours but once it gets later I can do 80kbps seamlessly.
 
squirrelman said:
I gave that a try but it now says "Stream connection closed", also when I attempt to go there on my normal computer it freezes for a second and never opens.
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It's a proper URL. I tested it last night in Tuner and Winamp and again right now. The software seems to be able to handle it, if you're having problems I'd look at your ISP and/or router.

And that's weird indeed that Tuner is gone. I'm not aware of Apple having ever previously pulled an app, so this is new to say the least.
 
tuner is still MIA this morning. this sucks, i had to restore my iphone 3g yesterday 'cause my apps stopped working. when i went to the app store to re-install tuner, it's not there!!!

please update this thread when you find out anything about this amazing app.

thanks guys.
 
donster28 said:
BUMP...sorry guys, just really deperate to know what happened to this awesome app (TUNER). Anyone?
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I'm curious myself, so I've fired an email off to someone at Nullriver about this. We'll see what they have to say.
 
I got a response: Shoutcast licensing issues. I'm guessing they needed to pay to use the Shoutcast stream index and weren't already paying. They say it will be back up today.
 
ViRGE said:
It's a proper URL. I tested it last night in Tuner and Winamp and again right now. The software seems to be able to handle it, if you're having problems I'd look at your ISP and/or router.

And that's weird indeed that Tuner is gone. I'm not aware of Apple having ever previously pulled an app, so this is new to say the least.
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I actually finally got it to work by clicking on "get info" on the stream being played in iTunes. I then typed that url in (it was just a bit different from the one you gave me, a few numbers different after the : ) and now it works. Thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction, now I am extremely happy with this program. Now if only it would go back on sale so my sister who also loves WGN can buy it for her iPhone...
 
Tuner

joemama said:
Yeah, I listen to my favorite (radio) station, 90.5 WBER, through iTunes over the Internet. Can I do this on the iPhone? If that's the case, I can FINALLY get it in my car!

Any ideas?
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TUNER app under Music.

if you could see it in shoutcast, you'll be available to listen to it on the road. I have a 1G, upgraded to 2.0 and was able to listen even on some occasions 128 kbps streams.

I drove from San Francisco to Napa, listened to WRN New Zealand and it only dropped a couple of times.
 
itunes responsse

Hear is itunes response.. I did email nullriver yesterday morning too but they haven't replied.


Dear Darren,

I'm sorry the iTunes Store doesn't have the item you wanted. I know how frustrating this can be. My name is Jennifer and I would be happy to assist you!

There may have been some kind of issue with "Tuner" that needed to be corrected before it's put out again, if ever.

Apple is constantly expanding the iTunes Store's catalog of music, audiobooks, videos, and movies. To ensure that your request is considered, please submit it through the Request page at:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunes.html

Thank you for being an iTunes Store customer and have a great day, Darren!

Sincerely,

Jennifer
iTunes Store Customer Support
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wasn't very helpful was it?
 
I have also emailed Nullriver and have not received a response. So eager to get this app as I have always dreamed a of a way to stream Bassdrive and Dubstep.fm while driving around in my car... apparently this app will do that, but alas, as soon as I finaly get my iPhone 3G the app is pulled... what a bummer!

Please Nullriver... get the liscensing straightened out with shoutcast... or remove the directory and re-post the app so those of us who know what the stream is can still buy the app and play our favorite internet radio stations! I'd pay $20 for this!
 
Interesting, they dropped the Shoutcast listing service entirely, in favor of some other service. I would have figured that they would just license the existing listing from Nullsoft. I wonder if Nullsoft isn't licensing it, or if they simply wanted too much?

Anyhow, HTTP-Auth support, yay.:D I can finally listen to DI.fm premium.

Edit: Whatever it is that they replaced the Shoutcast listing service with isn't bad by any means, although it doesn't seem to be as complete as the old listings.

Now I just wish it supported AAC, DI got rid of the 128k MP3 streams since everyone was using the 128k AAC. :(
 
mwickens said:
The description on the iTunes store says it supports AAC. I haven't tried it myself, though.
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It's complicated. The two native Shoutcast formats are MP3 and AAC+ since those are what ship with the Shoutcast DSP for Winamp But Shoutcast is just a container, so any format can be used. AAC is used by some broadcasters since it's better than MP3 (hence a 128k stream is basically CD-perfect while an MP3 may still be off if you have good ears) but further down the line AAC+ is used since it's exceptionally better than MP3 or AAC at a given bitrate. The catch is that AAC+ is really only designed for 64kb and lower streams (it doesn't scale up past that well due to design limitations) and as a result it can't quite touch a 128kb MP3 (let alone AAC). So DI/Sky uses AAC at 128k since AAC+ can't offer CD quality audio.

Anyhow, Tuner supports AAC+, but not AAC, I'm guessing because AAC is non-standard for Shoutcast*. However I seem to have found a bug in their AAC+ decoder, SBR doesn't appear to be kicking in, meaning that it's just playing the baseband audio signal and the audio quality sucks as a result. I've filed a note with them, so I'll see what they have to say.

* The weird thing is that normal AAC (AAC-LE) is part of the AAC+ standard, since the baseband stream is in AAC, so not supporting normal AAC would appear to be a configuration/business matter, and not a technical matter.
 
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