Anyone so disappointed...

[swarlos]

With iOS 10 that you're thinking of going to Android?

I must admit after watching the keynote I was pretty underwhelmed.

After using the beta I must say it's much better but I'm still excited for the new Nexus devices this year and whatever watches get shown off.

 

[Feenician]

From your post history is looks like you've been an android user in the past and/or present. What made you either switch or add iOS?

 

[lagwagon]

To each their own, but why would software make you go as far as getting angry? Did Apple physically punch you in the face?

 

[swarlos]

From your post history is looks like you've been an android user in the past and/or present. What made you either switch or add iOS?

I originally started with the iPhone in 2007 then went to the 3G and got mad with apple at the time about no copy/paste and lack of being able to choose your own ringtone among some other things. Went to blackberry then Android for 2 years then came back to iOS in 2012.

I've tried a few times starting with the Nexus 5 to see if I could switch back to Android but each I've only lasted a week. I just can't do it. I'm just so use to iOS now and since I own an Watch along with awesome things like Pau and other little things in iOS that Android just can't do I can't bring myself to switch.

 

[swarlos]

With iOS 10 that you're thinking of going to Android?

I must admit after watching the keynote I was pretty underwhelmed.

After using the beta I must say it's much better but I'm still excited for the new Nexus devices this year and whatever watches get shown off.

 

[Feenician]

And there's the rub. iOS isn't perfect, a million miles from it imo, but what are the the choices? Markedly inferior in the ways that matter to me* and, by the sound of it, you.

*I don't require a lecture from anyone here. I'm quite well informed on the state of the art elsewhere.

 

[swarlos]

To each their own, but why would software make you go as far as getting angry? Did Apple physically punch you in the face?

Angry wasn't the right word. After last years keynote I was hoping iOS 10 Apple would finally do some things we've been wanting. But some of the "big" features were lackluster at best.

 

[swarlos]

And there's the rub. iOS isn't perfect, a million miles from it imo, but what are the the choices? Markedly inferior in the ways that matter to me* and, by the sound of it, you.

*I don't require a lecture from anyone here. I'm quite well informed on the state of the art elsewhere.

I guess it's just the grass is greener syndrome. You get comfortable with something then you look over at the other side and wonder if life could be better but after you try it the realization comes that what you already have makes you happy and content so why change? Just for the sake of change?

 

[Feenician]

I guess it's just the grass is greener syndrome. You get comfortable with something then you look over at the other side and wonder if life could be better but after you try it the realization comes that what you already have makes you happy and content so why change? Just for the sake of change?

I understand that. I was a Linux desktop user for many years before 2007 (when it was far less suited than is it today for such a use) and every now and then I make a concerted effort to switch back, every time remembering or discovering a series of niggles that just take too much time or effort to deal with, or simply can't be dealt with at all.

 

[swarlos]

I understand that. I was a Linux desktop user for many years before 2007 (when it was far less suited than is it today for such a use) and every now and then I make a concerted effort to switch back, every time remembering or discovering a series of niggles that just take too much time or effort to deal with, or simply can't be dealt with at all.

That's exactly how it is for me when I try Android. There's so many niggles that just keep me from enjoying it and I know it's come a long way from when I used it during the Froyo to Jellybean era.

 

[bandofbrothers]

I'll use whatever fits my needs.

For example a few years ago now I moved from a Windows Computer to a MacBook Air to OS X and boy was that a learning curve. Part of the 'fun' was adjusting.

My point is many can and do adjust to different OS platforms.

 

[Feenician]

That's exactly how it is for me when I try Android. There's so many niggles that just keep me from enjoying it and I know it's come a long way from when I used it during the Froyo to Jellybean era.

If your budget extends to it perhaps find something you can find something reasonable you can play with and throw some roms on or something to sate your curiosity. Unfortunately it's not quite a parallel to me where thats concerned because I can dual boot or use VMware on my mbp, but running android on an idevice isn't really an option (or vice versa for that matter)

I sympathize with the notion for sure but when you take into account the hardware (the A series of chips in particular), the support (nshould you need it and occasionally, here in the real world, we all will) and the so update situation I think it's hard to make a value proposition better than iPhone/iPad. Others will disagree and that's ok

 

[swarlos]

If your budget extends to it perhaps find something you can find something reasonable you can play with and throw some roms on or something to sate your curiosity. Unfortunately it's not quite a parallel to me where thats concerned because I can dual boot or use VMware on my mbp, but running android on an idevice isn't really an option (or vice versa for that matter)

I sympathize with the notion for sure but when you take into account the hardware (the A series of chips in particular), the support (nshould you need it and occasionally, here in the real world, we all will) and the so update situation I think it's hard to make a value proposition better than iPhone/iPad. Others will disagree and that's ok

I agree! I hear the horror stories that people over on the Android Central forums have with HTC, Samsung or the carriers in trying to get their phone fixed or replaced under warranty and it makes me hug my iPhone LOL and I realize how awesome it is to have an Apple Store that I can just go to anytime I have a problem.

 

[Feenician]

I agree! I hear the horror stories that people over on the Android Central forums have with HTC, Samsung or the carriers in trying to get their phone fixed or replaced under warranty and it makes me hug my iPhone LOL and I realize how awesome it is to have an Apple Store that I can just go to anytime I have a problem.

So keep an eye over the fence and see if there's anything that really makes a compelling enough reason to switch. I sure will

 

[swarlos]

So keep an eye over the fence and see if there's anything that really makes a compelling enough reason to switch. I sure will

That's why I'm excited for the new Nexus phones. I've heard Google support is better but still not as good as Apple.

 

[lagwagon]

Angry wasn't the right word. After last years keynote I was hoping iOS 10 Apple would finally do some things we've been wanting. But some of the "big" features were lackluster at best.

Not every feature needs to be a massive marquee feature though. Sometimes the smallest things make a much bigger difference. I don't know if you've seen this video, but it outlines 75 things new to iOS 10. And it doesn't even cover everything. As well these 75+ things are only what's changed/different/new in beta 1 when compared to the most current version of iOS 9.3.3

Things like Dark Mode very well might be coming (which has been a conquest of many for the last three years to get) Every day there seems to be new evidence popping up about it (a lot of code and evidence of it running in Xcode simulator)

So perhaps hope shouldn't be lost yet. There is still time for more goodies.

 

[Naaaaak]

With iOS 10 that you're thinking of going to Android?

I must admit after watching the keynote I was pretty underwhelmed.

After using the beta I must say it's much better but I'm still excited for the new Nexus devices this year and whatever watches get shown off.

What is it about the hardware appeals enough to make you switch? In the end you'd have to use Android. As much as I dislike iOS, Android, to me, is worse in too many ways.

 

[swarlos]

What is it about the hardware appeals enough to make you switch? In the end you'd have to use Android. As much as I dislike iOS, Android, to me, is worse in too many ways.

The front facing speakers are awesome, the screens are pretty nice albeit I still think QHD is overkill for a phone. I mean there's really not much hardware wise that makes me super jealous.

 

[d5aqoëp]

With iOS 10 I was not as disappointed as I was with iOS 8 and 9

In fact, I am slightly (slightly) impressed as they have not killed performance on last to last year's devices like Air 2.

I expected Air 2 to be unusable with 2nd iOS update.

But I am getting tired of translucency. It is killing the performance at the cost of slight eye candy.

 

[Naaaaak]

But I am getting tired of translucency. It is killing the performance at the cost of slight eye candy.

Settings → General → Accessibility → Increase Contrast → Reduce Transparency.

Do you have any tests that show the impact on battery life when this is turned on / off?

 

[iTom17]

To be completely honest, I'm actually thinking of staying at iOS instead of switching. Recently I sold my iPad mini 4 because I didn't really use it. I bought myself a Nexus 5X, just to get a feel of the Android experience. Liked it! Heck, I was almost about to take the SIM out of my iPhone and put it into the Nexus. But the iOS 10 announcement has completely changed that for me. I mean, iOS 9 wasn't bad at all. It was just a boring update. Especially since many features are being left out for Dutch users (as well as users from many other countries). Things like QuickType, Transit, Apple Pay and News. Let those things just be what I was wishing for, and then it appears they're not available to Dutchies. xD

But iOS 10 got me hyped again. Not just iOS 10 by the way. Also macOS Sierra and watchOS 3 are very interesting updates, tvOS not so much (although still enough for me to update this fall haha).

Currently run the beta and so far so good. Looking forward to the changes that are coming with the next betas and of course the final release.

 

[Qbnkelt]

Not leaving iOS for Android in any foreseeable future.
I'm sure iOS 10 will suit me as much as all prior iOS upgrades have through the years.
I'm happy where I am.

 

[swarlos]

To be completely honest, I'm actually thinking of staying at iOS instead of switching. Recently I sold my iPad mini 4 because I didn't really use it. I bought myself a Nexus 5X, just to get a feel of the Android experience. Liked it! Heck, I was almost about to take the SIM out of my iPhone and put it into the Nexus. But the iOS 10 announcement has completely changed that for me. I mean, iOS 9 wasn't bad at all. It was just a boring update. Especially since many features are being left out for Dutch users (as well as users from many other countries). Things like QuickType, Transit, Apple Pay and News. Let those things just be what I was wishing for, and then it appears they're not available to Dutchies. xD

But iOS 10 got me hyped again. Not just iOS 10 by the way. Also macOS Sierra and watchOS 3 are very interesting updates, tvOS not so much (although still enough for me to update this fall haha).

Currently run the beta and so far so good. Looking forward to the changes that are coming with the next betas and of course the final release.

watchOS 3 is amazing I'm running on my watch and freaking love it! After seeing the Android Wear 2.0 update it doesn't even compare IMO.

I've purchased a few Nexus 6P trying to give Android a chance to win me back while Marshmallow is great there was just too many things iOS did whereas Android either couldn't or it was implemented crappy.

 

[iTom17]

watchOS 3 is amazing I'm running on my watch and freaking love it! After seeing the Android Wear 2.0 update it doesn't even compare IMO.

I've purchased a few Nexus 6P trying to give Android a chance to win me back while Marshmallow is great there was just too many things iOS did whereas Android either couldn't or it was implemented crappy.

Yeah, watchOS 3 is really great. Running it as well as of yesterday. Performs better than I could've imagined. Apps load instantly using the new Dock, swiping between watch faces is a nice addition and the new complications (like Music and Remote) are nice to have as well.

What I have found so far in Android N (yes, I'm running the Developer Preview at this moment) I that it's good. But the problem is that I'm into Apple's ecosystem now. Along with the iPhone I have an Apple Watch and Mac. Those devices work seamlessly together and I would have to miss all of that when switching to Android. Especially the ability to copy/paste between iPhone and Mac, and that you can unlock your Mac using the watch is fantastic! It's just that all of those features are built right into the OS. Android offers many third-party solutions for that kind of stuff, but I'd rather have a first-party solution. Better implementation, more reliable and faster, and less battery drain in most cases.

Android isn't bad at all, but it's simply not for me. I want something that works great and is able to 'talk' to other devices in the area. That's what I love so much about iOS, macOS and watchOS.

 

[waitandwait]

I guess 50% of the disappointment comes from a lack of hardware, especially MacBook Pros.

I have many Android phones. Bought them for their camera and their design. Galaxy Edge 7, Note 4/5, P9, Z5 Premium. If you have used iphone your entire life (like me), you will know that Android is really for people who cannot afford it or don't wish to pay so much money for a mobile device.

Every Android phone is so slow in starting up, playing games and web/app processing. And my Tab S2 released just September last year, is not eligible for Samsung Pay because it runs on Lollipop, My Z4 bought three years ago cannot be upgraded to Marshmallow because Sony did not release an update for it. My Samsung Note 4 cannot be synced to My Samsung Note 5 because Samsung did not release Marshmallow on Note 4 and one of the main functions of Marshmallow is the syncing of passwords, data and other information.

Android really sucks. And for those who utilise your phone to the fullest, whether using Apple/Samsung Pay, playing games and syncing via cloud, Android is super backwards.