Anyone so disappointed...

[Dukins]

I guess 50% of the disappointment comes from a lack of hardware, especially MacBook Pros.

I have many Android phones. Bought them for their camera and their design. Galaxy Edge 7, Note 4/5, P9, Z5 Premium. If you have used iphone your entire life (like me), you will know that Android is really for people who cannot afford it or don't wish to pay so much money for a mobile device.

Every Android phone is so slow in starting up, playing games and web/app processing. And my Tab S2 released just September last year, is not eligible for Samsung Pay because it runs on Lollipop, My Z4 bought three years ago cannot be upgraded to Marshmallow because Sony did not release an update for it. My Samsung Note 4 cannot be synced to My Samsung Note 5 because Samsung did not release Marshmallow on Note 4 and one of the main functions of Marshmallow is the syncing of passwords, data and other information.

Android really sucks. And for those who utilise your phone to the fullest, whether using Apple/Samsung Pay, playing games and syncing via cloud, Android is super backwards.

I think it is unfair to categorize "android users has people who cannot afford it". This is far from the truth. I was exclusive user to android for many years, but not because of price. Iphone simply at the time didn't appeal to my/others user needs. I never even considered the iphone previously due to screen size, customization and other minor annoyances. In fact the 6plus was my first iphone ever, then moved onto the 6s plus. I'm almost positive now that I will be apple fan for life. Please do not generalize and blanket a whole sect of people "as users who can't afford something" due to phone preference lol.

However you made valid points that most like the android platform for the better media consumption (camera (toss up), picture gallery, music, making the phone your own) and customization.

 

[maxsix]

That's why I'm excited for the new Nexus phones. I've heard Google support is better but still not as good as Apple.

I've been using Android models and iPhones concurrently since day one of each platform.

Google Android/Nexus service and support is every bit as good as Apple. Greatly improved over the past, they've listened to the customers and responded.

So good in fact, that I've been using my Nexus 6P as my primary smartphone for the last year, my iPhone 6S Plus as my secondary.

Google keeps improving as Apple fades.

 

[Feenician]

Google Android/Nexus service and support is every bit as good as Apple. Greatly improved over the past, they've listened to the customers and responded.

I'm glad you've had a good experience when you go to the Google/Nexus store. Oh wait...

 

[maxsix]

I'm glad you've had a good experience when you go to the Google/Nexus store. Oh wait...

A modern company, you don't have to drive to the store and wait. Business is done over the phone or online...perhaps you've heard of the internet...

 

[Feenician]

A modern company, you don't have to drive to the store and wait. Business is done over the phone or online...perhaps you've heard of the internet...

Over the phone instant replacements. Neat. All hail Google.

 

[braddick]

If there was an iOS9 jailbreak and there were tweaks available to give me iOS10 features, I'd be completely happy. Nice to have all of that without the jailbreak.

 

[DaveOP]

Over the phone instant replacements. Neat. All hail Google.

You have to remember, not everyone has an Apple Store nearby either. Where I am at in Chicago, we have 5-6 of them, but we had people driving from Iowa, Indiana, and FAR southern Illinois for service. For my sister in Green Bay, she had to drive 2-3 hours to Bayshore for service. This is not realistic for everyone.

 

[C DM]

You have to remember, not everyone has an Apple Store nearby either. Where I am at in Chicago, we have 5-6 of them, but we had people driving from Iowa, Indiana, and FAR southern Illinois for service. For my sister in Green Bay, she had to drive 2-3 hours to Bayshore for service. This is not realistic for everyone.

But it is a big nenefit for many nonetheless (one that certainly simply doesn't even really exist for the vast majority in the Android world, for example).

 

[Feenician]

You have to remember, not everyone has an Apple Store nearby either. Where I am at in Chicago, we have 5-6 of them, but we had people driving from Iowa, Indiana, and FAR southern Illinois for service. For my sister in Green Bay, she had to drive 2-3 hours to Bayshore for service. This is not realistic for everyone.

Sure but it's an undeniable advantage for those that do. Also there's an official 3rd party service centre network.

 

[decafjava]

A modern company, you don't have to drive to the store and wait. Business is done over the phone or online...perhaps you've heard of the internet...

You can do that with Apple too??

 

[DaveOP]

Sure but it's an undeniable advantage for those that do. Also there's an official 3rd party service centre network.

Not disagreeing with either of you that posted above, but the sarcastic responses to the Android supporter were misplaced and kind of childish. Fact is, there are so many models and variants, it would be tough. Google service has really improved, and you can get a replacement fairly quickly.

 

[Ledsteplin]

I won't be switching to Android. The iPhone and iOS 10 will suit me fine. While iOS 9 didn't offer a lot of new features, it did bring back stability and fewer bugs than 7 and 8. I've been using the iPhone for over 4 years and have no reason to go elsewhere. The grass always looks greener on the other side, until you get there and the yellow and brown pops up at you.

 

[Feenician]

Not disagreeing with either of you that posted above, but the sarcastic responses to the Android supporter were misplaced and kind of childish

They were in response to a post that said

Google keeps improving as Apple fades.

A modern company, you don't have to drive to the store and wait. Business is done over the phone or online...perhaps you've heard of the internet...

Which are sarcastic and childish and in the case of the former, absurd, and in the latter, irrelevant.

Fact is, there are so many models and variants, it would be tough. Google service has really improved, and you can get a replacement fairly quickly

The subject at hand was Google Nexus handsets. There aren't nearly as many variants in existence totally as there iPhones, iPads and Macs at any given point of time. If Google can't service these that seems like a Google problem.

 

[DaveOP]

They were in response to a post that said





Which are sarcastic and childish and in the case of the former, absurd, and in the latter, irrelevant.



The subject at hand was Google Nexus handsets. There aren't nearly as many variants in existence totally as there iPhones, iPads and Macs at any given point of time. If Google can't service these that seems like a Google problem.

Not really a problem, in that people seem to live their lives and are able to get repairs. Google is not a phone manufacturer, and Nexus phones are really just a hobby and to showcase their software. His point was that their service has gotten a lot better (there were times in the past where getting service on a Nexus phone was near impossible), and he is right. I won't go down the path of an Apple vs Google fight, because I like them both for different reasons. Yes, having Apple Stores is great. Sadly, there are only ~200-250 in the country, which means each state would have no more than 5 on average. That is not a lot of stores to cover the geographic area of the country, so many people are left using the same service options that Google provides.

 

[Feenician]

His point was that their service has gotten a lot better (there were times in the past where getting service on a Nexus phone was near impossible), and he is right

So, better than "impossible to get service" now. No-one disputed they were getting better but better than essentially not present is hardly an endorsement and I too remember reading the issues people were having earlier in the Nexus program.

As for the presence of Apple stores as I said, and I cannot imagine anyone doesn't already know, there is an official 3rd party service network. Even if there weren't nothing detracts from the original point that the 268 stores that do exist are 268 more than the options you have for a Nexus.

PS If someone posts "Google keeps improving as Apple fades" and you expect them to be taken seriously or engaged in an actual dialog anywhere, much less macrumors then I don't know what to tell you.

Edit: missed a couple of words

 

[Ryanclbryant]

I guess 50% of the disappointment comes from a lack of hardware, especially MacBook Pros.

This. But Apple has been steadily separating WWDC from hardware over the last few years so I was not at all surprised. My guess is that we'll see some nice hardware updates this fall with additional information about how they hook into these new iterations of Mac OS, iOS, TV OS and Watch OS.

For the software side of things WWDC was a great update for me, and I am really excited about what Apple has for us this fall. iPhone 7 rumours seem to be setting us up for a very small change but the iPhone 7S? 8? What ever it will end up being in 2017 is likely to be my next phone purchase. (Currently using iPhone 6 Plus)

 

[Suckfest 9001]

@op: no. I've had many Android phones in the past, the last one being a Nexus 6P, and they've all been depressingly bad compared to the typical iPhone experience. Would never go back, not in a million years, because I know just how dead the grass is on the other side.

 

[waitandwait]

I think it is unfair to categorize "android users has people who cannot afford it". This is far from the truth. I was exclusive user to android for many years, but not because of price. Iphone simply at the time didn't appeal to my/others user needs. I never even considered the iphone previously due to screen size, customization and other minor annoyances. In fact the 6plus was my first iphone ever, then moved onto the 6s plus. I'm almost positive now that I will be apple fan for life. Please do not generalize and blanket a whole sect of people "as users who can't afford something" due to phone preference lol.

However you made valid points that most like the android platform for the better media consumption (camera (toss up), picture gallery, music, making the phone your own) and customization.

I mentioned that Android phone is really for people who cannot afford it OR don't wish to pay so much money for a mobile device.

In my part of the world (India, Southeast Asia), Android phones are really cheap. You can get it for US$50-100. Incomes are so low and many cannot afford premium phones like iPhones.
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This. But Apple has been steadily separating WWDC from hardware over the last few years so I was not at all surprised. My guess is that we'll see some nice hardware updates this fall with additional information about how they hook into these new iterations of Mac OS, iOS, TV OS and Watch OS.

For the software side of things WWDC was a great update for me, and I am really excited about what Apple has for us this fall. iPhone 7 rumours seem to be setting us up for a very small change but the iPhone 7S? 8? What ever it will end up being in 2017 is likely to be my next phone purchase. (Currently using iPhone 6 Plus)

But this year is the first time in the past decade that Apple only releases 3 major products in the first half of the year.

 

[Ryanclbryant]

But this year is the first time in the past decade that Apple only releases 3 major products in the first half of the year.

Hopefully because they have a great lineup for the second half! Don't get me wrong, I am anxious for some new hardware and it is about time some products receive an update. But sitting down for the WWDC keynote I thought Apple had effectively set the expectation of no new products just yet.

 

[newtestleper]

I am perfectly whelmed by iOS 10.

 

[Laserducky]

They were in response to a post that said





Which are sarcastic and childish and in the case of the former, absurd, and in the latter, irrelevant.



The subject at hand was Google Nexus handsets. There aren't nearly as many variants in existence totally as there iPhones, iPads and Macs at any given point of time. If Google can't service these that seems like a Google problem.

Feenician, with regard to the 'supporter' in question, some people love to hang around this forum with the express desire and passion to dish Apple for EVERY single thing and ALL the time. I believe you are better off not engaging such people and let them wallow in their 'passionate' postings.

Cheers !

 

[Feenician]

Feenician, with regard to the 'supporter' in question, some people love to hang around this forum with the express desire and passion to dish Apple for EVERY single thing and ALL the time. I believe you are better off not engaging such people and let them wallow in their 'passionate' postings.

Cheers !

Yes, I know. People are entitled to their opinions too but when someone says something so obviously and provably wrong it's easy pickings.

 

[crashoverride77]

With iOS 10 I was not as disappointed as I was with iOS 8 and 9

In fact, I am slightly (slightly) impressed as they have not killed performance on last to last year's devices like Air 2.

I expected Air 2 to be unusable with 2nd iOS update.

But I am getting tired of translucency. It is killing the performance at the cost of slight eye candy.

Here we go again with the planned obsolescence BS. MacRumors 101
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I've been using Android models and iPhones concurrently since day one of each platform.

Google Android/Nexus service and support is every bit as good as Apple. Greatly improved over the past, they've listened to the customers and responded.

So good in fact, that I've been using my Nexus 6P as my primary smartphone for the last year, my iPhone 6S Plus as my secondary.

Google keeps improving as Apple fades.

Good one
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I guess 50% of the disappointment comes from a lack of hardware, especially MacBook Pros.

I have many Android phones. Bought them for their camera and their design. Galaxy Edge 7, Note 4/5, P9, Z5 Premium. If you have used iphone your entire life (like me), you will know that Android is really for people who cannot afford it or don't wish to pay so much money for a mobile device.

Every Android phone is so slow in starting up, playing games and web/app processing. And my Tab S2 released just September last year, is not eligible for Samsung Pay because it runs on Lollipop, My Z4 bought three years ago cannot be upgraded to Marshmallow because Sony did not release an update for it. My Samsung Note 4 cannot be synced to My Samsung Note 5 because Samsung did not release Marshmallow on Note 4 and one of the main functions of Marshmallow is the syncing of passwords, data and other information.

Android really sucks. And for those who utilise your phone to the fullest, whether using Apple/Samsung Pay, playing games and syncing via cloud, Android is super backwards.

Why is it that every year people are disappointed that apple is not showing hardware at their DEVELOPER conference?
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A modern company, you don't have to drive to the store and wait. Business is done over the phone or online...perhaps you've heard of the internet...

LMAO, so the internet is faster than going to an apple store and leaving with a new phone/replacement within minutes. The internet has genius bars too?
Also in your world Apple apparently has no online service or support
Why dont you buy a Samsung/HTC phone from like 2-3 years ago and than let us know how awesome your internet support is.
Stupidest thing I heard all week

 

[Qbnkelt]

A modern company, you don't have to drive to the store and wait. Business is done over the phone or online...perhaps you've heard of the internet...

Tells me which is more advantageous.

1). Something goes wrong with my phone. I jump on the Metro for a 15 minute ride. I walk out with a new phone or the issue is resolved right then and there. Issue resolved and I was without a phone, say, an hour.
2). I email Company. Company submits trouble ticket. Sends me number for FedEx. I go to fed ex and send phone. I wait without a phone one day out and one day back under the best possible circumstances. I wait for FedEx truck all farkin day.

 

[Qbnkelt]

Oh wait I've got a new one.
1). I'm on vacation in London. My phone dies. I take one of those cool huge black taxis to the Apple Store. I get issue resolved.
2). I email company. It's the last three days of my vacation so they can't guarantee that I'll get my new phone before I go home. I'm without a phone for three days before I get home then email company who submits trouble ticket and sends me the number for FedEx so I go to FesEx and send the phone and wait one day out and one day back. I've been without a phone for five days.

Which is most advantageous?