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My main priorities from the most BASIC smartphone is battery life, durable hardware, stable OS/software, and call quality. Camera and gaming is actually much lower on my list. I generally use my phone for Wi-Fi browsing, texting, and making a few calls throughout the day. That's why batt life is important to me. The longer it last, the longer I stay connected.

The only other smartphones that interest me are the Xiaomi Mi 4 or Sony Xperia Z2. Others like the OnePlus One are too large. I've read the OPO had poor reception as well. Most lower end devices will never last that long with battery, and if they do, probably powered by inferior specs. I once got into a midrange device like the water/dust resistant Sony Xperia acro S (2012) but my interest for it waned quickly after seeing flagship specs get priced under $300. Snapdragon 800 & 3000 mAh minimum for me just because how power efficient that 800 SoC was compared to its predecessors. Standby time is fantastic on the 800/801 SoC and they run cooler too. Nexus 5 and its 2300 mAh battery was the only battery life disappointment from that SD800 generation.

Not into MediaTek as they never release their source code which means most phones carrying their SoC never get updated. And generally no LTE and poorer graphics performance. I used to think Qualcomm were overrated, Adreno GPU was garbage, and Snapdragon overheated more than MediaTek's. But ever since the Snapdragon 800/801, my perception has changed. Like what Haswell did to laptops for 10+ hr screen time, a Snapdragon 800 & 3000+ mAh capacity with good battery optimization settings is finally pushing Android well beyond the typical 5-6 hr avg screen time. If iPhone 4/iOS4 was the pinnacle for me when it came to battery life for iOS, then Mi 3/MIUI 5/KitKat has become my pinnacle for Android.

Snapdragon 800
LG G2
LG G Flex
Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Sony Xperia Z1
Google Nexus 5
Xiaomi Mi 3
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact

*excludes the Samsung Galaxy S4 SD800 variant only found in S Korea.

Snapdragon 801
HTC One (M8)
Samsung Galaxy S5
Sony Xperia Z2
OnePlus One
LG G3
Xiaomi Mi 4

Best value
Xiaomi Mi 3
OnePlus One (64 GB)
Xiaomi Mi 4
Google Nexus 5

With the exception of the Nexus 5 and the unreleased Mi 4, most of them listed have generally very good battery life. Z1 Compact only has 2300 mAh, but only a 4.3 inch/720 display to power. Best value is really between the Xiaomi vs OnePlus if you can get them. Better value than a Moto G, Moto X, and Nexus 5.Their custom ROMs are more useful and customizable to keep things fresh. The availability to more continents and their limited stock is what really prevents Nexus, Mi, and OnePlus from becoming truly popular brands. Google's Nexus needs to go beyond US, Xiaomi needs to go beyond Asia, and OnePlus needs to go beyond a limited invite system. Never settle. I would never settle for lower end specs when Chinese brands with flagship specs are only priced slightly higher. More forward thinking if you can get the best specs for the lowest price. Adreno 305 & 1GB RAM would start to suffer sooner than Adreno 330 with 2 GB & Wi-Fi ac.
 

SpyderBite

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I had a LG Lucid on my secondary line for 3 years. Didn't use it for much. Decided on a whim to order the G3 yesterday. It'll still be my secondary device but I'm sure I'll have more fun playing with it than I did that 8gb wonder that the was the lucid. ;)
 

aneftp

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Yeah I got it on contract. Didn't even have to use my own upgrade. That's why I'm selling it.

It's still a contract. Someone else is in a contract than. So someone's else upgrade was used?

Regardless, yeah that's what I figured. No one someone would see the LG G3 so quickly and take a big hit on it if they paid the full $580/600 on it.
 

Cnasty

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Speaking of low end, anyone use a low end provider like Cricket or StraightTalk?

Wasnt sure if we had a carrier forum but using low end, off contract phones would seem to fit well into those providers and I have been researching.

Especially since Cricket is on ATT's network it seems.
 

rui no onna

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Speaking of low end, anyone use a low end provider like Cricket or StraightTalk?

Wasnt sure if we had a carrier forum but using low end, off contract phones would seem to fit well into those providers and I have been researching.

Especially since Cricket is on ATT's network it seems.
I do believe AT&T owns Cricket now. Reviews for Cricket have been very favorable. If I didn't need tethering on the iPad, I'd probably move our AT&T postpaid lines to Cricket.
 

hollandog

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I bought my mom a Moto G GPE. The value is hard to beat and it doesn't feel slow if you don't play games heavily.
 

theapplefanboyj

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I had a Samsung Galaxy Ace from December 2012. It was running an old version of android at the time *cough* Gingerbread, but it did what I wanted it to do. Soon after I bought my iPod Touch, I rooted my phone and made the cup slower so that the phone's battery would last longer while it was tethered to my iPod. And then, I got my iPhone.
 

rui no onna

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I bought my mom a Moto G GPE. The value is hard to beat and it doesn't feel slow if you don't play games heavily.
Lol, I use my Moto G as PSX emulator. So far, it's handled the games I've tried pretty well. :) I really need a controller though. On-screen controls just don't cut it. :( Either that or get the Nvidia Shield. ;)
 

Wolfpup

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That's not really a low end phone…

Yeah, I wouldn't call a $450 phone low end, much less a $550 one :-D

Of course the whole "low end" thing gets a bit silly murky given like the Nokia 520 last year exceeds the 4.5x more expensive iPhone 4s in a lot of ways. The Moto X is half the cost of similar phones, ditto the Nexus 5, etc.

This whole carrier subsidizing thing is really skewing things. I'm sooo glad to be done with it.
 

japasneezemonk

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Moto G LTE on T-Mobile. I activated it with the $30 Walmart plan. It's okay, I don't love it or hate it. I'm just waiting for the new iPhone to be announced.
 

spriter

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Anyone use a low end smartphone?

I have a Galaxy Y (S5360) as a backup. A definite low-end smartphone. Cost around 50 USD. It's awful.

Only got it after selling my Find 5 and not being able to immediately buy a 5s at launch last year - it was the most horrific few weeks I can recall.

Terrible specs, horribly small screen, nasty resolution, lags like hell, pictures look like they're covered with sand, runs out of memory after installing 3-4 apps and lasts about half a day just on standby. It lags when hanging up a call.

I actually have no idea why such low-end smartphones are made. They must sell tons in developing markets but as an introduction to smartphones/Android, it doesn't come much worse than this.

When I wonder if it's worth spending on another flagship as a backup / alternate OS phone, all I need to do is eyeball this P.O.S sitting idly on the shelf with a flat battery.
 
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