When was that? When I got the Pro last Christmas there was nothing bigger than 128GB.
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Anyone Using iPad Pro as Main Device?
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When was that? When I got the Pro last Christmas there was nothing bigger than 128GB.
Apple intorduced 256GB option in March when they released the 9.7 Pro. 12.9 Pro with 256GB also became available at the same time.
of course I know that. I would never buy anything with less than 128GB. This comment was targeting a commenter who has a 16GB iPad and claims he can do real work on it. Obviously we have a different definition of real work.
My work is divided in to two equal halves...
One is office/administrative stuff. For that, my 12.9" cellular iPad Pro + Apple Pencil can handle easily over 75% of it, so it actually gets most of the daily administrative screen time. Plus I don't have to be trapped in one place. So in that sense, the iPP is my main device.
The other 50% of my work is clinical, for which I have no choice but to use a very specific multicore Xeon-based workstations with 32GB of ECC RAM and FDA-approved high resolution monitors. These are 4-headed workstations, so there's no mobile option here to even be considered. However, if I want to show someone some specific images, those I could send to my iPad. So, in that sense, the iPP cannot be my main device.
One is office/administrative stuff. For that, my 12.9" cellular iPad Pro + Apple Pencil can handle easily over 75% of it, so it actually gets most of the daily administrative screen time. Plus I don't have to be trapped in one place. So in that sense, the iPP is my main device.
The other 50% of my work is clinical, for which I have no choice but to use a very specific multicore Xeon-based workstations with 32GB of ECC RAM and FDA-approved high resolution monitors. These are 4-headed workstations, so there's no mobile option here to even be considered. However, if I want to show someone some specific images, those I could send to my iPad. So, in that sense, the iPP cannot be my main device.
Ah, I missed that part.
And yes, it depends on what kind of work you do. I believe my work related files would probably fit under 16GB, although I prefer to have larger storage on my iPad so I can put videos and pictures on it. But they aren't related to work.
Almost all of what I do for "work" is either a small Ulysses file or on OneDrive, so I could do Real Work(tm) on a 16gb iPad. I have a 16gb Air 1 That I do work on.
That said, it's like doing deliveries on a moped. You *can* do it, but it's not optimal.
Fail. The pencil isn't for "navigation", and never was. It's obvious you've never even held an iPad Pro.
Fail. It already is. And Real Work™ should always be capitalized and trademarked.
I have nearly a 100% accuracy rate with iOS dictation. How could it be "better"?
Worst suggestion I've ever seen here. Pecking away at a tiny keyboard with a stylus is your idea of Real Work™? Hilarious.
For who? In what scenario? Using what app? How do you expect these non-sequitur pronouncements of yours to be relevant to anyone else?
Why is it interesting to us that someone you happen to know "turns to a Mac" for Real Work™? Maybe they don't know the first thing about using an iPad, maybe they're 80 years old. Who knows! Who cares!
They don't make sense.
If I am in a place without reliable internet connection, I will not be able to access stuff online regardless of whether I am on a Mac or iPad. At least the iPad comes with a 4G option so I can still access the web even in places without ready wifi access.
Likewise, while I can't have 2 word documents open at the same time, there are ways of simulating that, from simply opening one file in word and the reference file in a document manager such as Documents.
Also, I am using a 128gb iPad and it's kinda enough storage for me at the moment.
I get that you don't think much of using iPads for "real work", but can you at least try to make your reasons make sense?
did you read my comment?
I am claiming that you need local storage because there are times that you might not have reliable internet connection, so you cannot rely on cloud storage to replace local storage. My iPad is also 128GB, good for now, but my next iPad in March will be 256GB, to make it more future proof.
" Likewise, while I can't have 2 word documents open at the same time, there are ways of simulating that"
Simulating is not the same as having the functionality of Word. I don't have time to waste in inefficient workflows, what you suggest is exactly that, at least for my own uses.
"The pencil isn't for "navigation", and never was. It's obvious you've never even held an iPad Pro."
That is how I navigate in word documents and pdf expert. I have owned an iPad since day 0 and an iPadPro since day 0 also. I know very well their strengths and limitations.
"Fail. It already is. And Real Work™ should always be capitalized and trademarked."
Why should we capitalize and TM that?
"I have nearly a 100% accuracy rate with iOS dictation. How could it be "better"?"
sure, if your vocabulary range is just very common words, the accuracy is good. Try dictating technical terms when you do real work and the accuracy turns down to 5%
"Worst suggestion I've ever seen here. Pecking away at a tiny keyboard with a stylus is your idea of Real Work™? Hilarious."
Sure, typing should only be needed for technical terms and for corrections of dictation. You need a small keyboard for that, which wouldn't cover much of the screen. Pencil allows accurate typing, so no need for big keys.
"For who? In what scenario? Using what app? How do you expect these non-sequitur pronouncements of yours to be relevant to anyone else?"
I have mentioned one scenario: try to edit side by side two word documents...
"Why is it interesting to us that someone you happen to know "turns to a Mac" for Real Work™? Maybe they don't know the first thing about using an iPad, maybe they're 80 years old. Who knows! Who cares!"
no, they are actually highly educated and very well versed in technology.
"Who cares!" obviously you do care, that is why you are replying to me
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Apple Pencil can be used to Navigate and actually was a feature from the very beginning. I have used my Apple Pencil to navigate sometimes.
Near 100% Siri dictation accuracy - I don't believe that.
Yeah I have to agree with you.
A) While I didn't buy the Pencil for navigation, I use it to navigate and even type very short replies if I'm already using. It's great for scrolling through Safari or other apps when you don't want to get the screen smudged.
B) no way he has nearly 100% accuracy. I used dictation for this reply and had to fix several things. I speak English, minimal accent, and other services don't have issues. But Siri often messes up even basic words. You would think they would be some form of machine learning where she could tell by the context of the conversation what I mean.
And sometimes it gets the right sounding word, but wrong actual word. Like throwing a random "wood" instead of "would."
Just because you don't have that much accuracy with Siri doesn't mean others don't have that much accuracy with Siri. If I had never seen a red shirt, what I be correct in assuming that red shirts don't exist? Oh and by the way, I used dictation for this entire post. I rarely use the keyboard on my iOS devices anymore because dictation seems to do the job very well. Unless you are standing beside someone and watching their every move all day long, you don't have enough information to be able to make it an assumption like that.
<typing now>it appears that dictation made only one error above: what instead of would. But, that is easy to change after proof-reading. I've been told that dictation on iOS gets better the more you use it.
Ardchoille50 I would love to try dictating my posts. How do you go about that? Do you use an app? How does it dictate a post? Sorry for weird questions but I genuinely want to try it out...
I don't care one iota if you believe me or not. I have nearly 100% success with iOS dictation, and pretty close to that with Siri commands. But I'm in the United States, I'm a native speaker of American English, and I have no regional accent. Where you live and how you speak directly affects your success with these dictation products that, like it or not, were built and designed by people who speak exactly like me.
I also realize that I'm talking to a machine, so I pronounce each word clearly, and slow my cadence. I do the same thing when I speak to foreigners who are ESL.
But hey, thanks for calling me a liar.
I don't know if your Siri accuracy reaches 100%, but your credibility in this forum definitely reaches 0%
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"Fail. The pencil isn't for "navigation", and never was. It's obvious you've never even held an iPad Pro."
it is obvious that you CAN navigate with the pencil. So EPIC FAIL for you. You should really explore this function of pencil.
it is inappropriate to question that "I have even held an iPhone", when I own an iPad Pro for oven a year now. It is easier to offend than to bring arguments to the discussion.
He isn't saying the Pencil can't be used for navigation. He's saying it wasn't meant to.
I apologize for the harsh tone of my post (that's what happens when one replies at 1:00am before bed).
I should not have dismissed your claim, but I too am an American English speaker with minimal regional accent and I can never trust dictation well.
Oddly, I find dictation is most accurate (80%) on the Watch and it drops on all of my other devices. I get frustrated when I say "Remind me about the error." And I get a reminder stating "about the air." :/
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I just get frustrated with the inconsistency. I did apologize to the OP, but I am also an American English speaker with minimal accent and it only works well on the Watch for me.
I don't know why experiences differ so drastically with apple's services.
Don't feel bad, dictation seems to work slightly better on my iPad Pro 9.7 than it does on my iPhone 6s.. and I am the only one to ever use these two devices. I'll agree that it's not perfect, but, for me, it is better than using the keyboard.
I *like* the feature, I just find it annoying. It's often faster for me to dictate and fix than it is for me to type out a long reply to a student. I don't expect names to be correct, but I wish I could have more confidence in it.
In my case I just press the microphone button next to the space bar. I'm on an iPad's running taptalk on iOS. Reply using dictation.
Also using an iPad Pro. For me dictation works 80% of the time. (2 fixes in this phrase)
Siri and dictation seem to work better for me in the afternoon than in the early morning. I've not studied vocal patterns, but I'm wondering if some physiological forces come into play here.
how can you possibly know what it was meant for? is this an inside info from Apple?
anyway the navigation function of pencil is present in many apps, such as word (if you turn off the drawing), in pdf expert etc. I actually find it very convenient, much more than scrolling with my finger.
So going back to your point, the fact that the developers incorporated the navigation function in the pencil means that there must have been some provision in the OS software for that. Therefore, the point that the pencil was not meant for navigation is not credible. It might not be the main purpose for the pencil, I will take that.
What I find annoying here, is that anytime somebody proposes a fix to the ipad limitations, that guy will get ad hominem offending comments that he is not familiar with the ipad, the technology etc.
Well let me put it otherwise, if the software is so counterintuitive that doesn't allow an average guy to get familiar with it, then you fix the software, you don't offend the guy.
After all isn't it the user experience that we all turned to apple??
Look at any promotional material on the Apple Pencil. Look at Apple's website. Do you even once see Apple showing someone scrolling in Safari, turning the page of a book, or typing with the Pencil? No, you don't. You see people drawing and sketching with it.
That's how I know what the Pencil was meant for.
In one of the 10.0 betas, Apple removed the ability to navigate the UI. After a pretty significant lash-back they put it back in.
This promo video from Apple shows what I feel is what they designed the Pencil to do. There is no UI navigation in the video. When I'm using the Pencil, I do often navigate some of the UI because I'm holding it. But if I'm not using the Pencil, I don't grab it to use the UI.