But they only let mac use it after getting a rather large amount of shares from apple
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Apple and Microsoft: WHO STOLE WHAT FROM WHOM [add to the list!!!]
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But they only let mac use it after getting a rather large amount of shares from apple
No, iWork is a two-part package that only runs on Macs. It contains Pages and Keynote.
http://www.apple.com/iwork/
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And no again.
I can't see this thread ending well...but yes, I do think Apple stole fast user switching from Microsoft.
No duh... Office is made for both Windows and Mac OS, whoever said they did steal it?
boganrulz said:
No duh... Office is made for both Windows and Mac OS, whoever said they did steal it?
1. People should no that appple didnt steal office
2. Bill gates saw that having Microsoft Office on a competitors computer would get him lots of money.
3. He let Mac use office. For the price of 10% of Apple Shares.
4. Thats why apple has Office for mac, thay didnt steal it, Bill Gates let them buy it.
5. Better?
Boganrulz wz here
1. We do, but not for the reasons you supply
2. True, but he also had other concerns (pending monopoly charges)
3. Wrong...Microsoft invested in Apple to keep them as a competitor (same monopoly concerns, plus cheap R&D source)
4. Microsoft produces Office: Mac...Apple doesn't have anything to do with it (other than it's running on a Mac), it's not like Bill Gates sold them the rights to it.
daAnsR wz up n har
But Windows doesn't have a cool cube transition like Apple.
Was Windows Media Center released before Front Row?
But Windows doesn't have a cool cube transition like Apple.
Was Windows Media Center released before Front Row?
No it wasnt, it came out on vista
No, Media Center has been out way before Vista. My friend got a Windows Box last year that had Media Center on it...
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What a popular thread this has become.
You, my friend, is REALLY confused. iWork hardly has ANYTHING to do with Office, let along Microsoft. Aside from the alleged stealing of Office ideas by Apple.
I guess it is, so this whole disscusion can be led back 27 years?MS stole a windows based OS created by Apple in the 1980s. Isn't that where it all started?
Stupid MS
MS stole a windows based OS created by Apple in the 1980s. Isn't that where it all started?
Beat me to it.
Well they stole the whole concept, atleast. . . the GUI, etc.
Oh, and the mouse -- Apple bought it from Xerox I believe, and then Microsoft took that over, I think
i may be wrong, though.
to say MS stole the Zune, or Apple stole iWork would be foolish...that like saying Palm stole the Palm Pilot from Apple. They are similar but different ideas.
This thread is pointless. Nobody cares what technologies are similar in the operating systems. And I love how you say Microsoft stole all of these things from Apple
According to your logic:
iPod/Zune: Apple did not invent the mp3 player
iMovie: Apple did not invent NLE
iCal: Apple did not invent the calendar
Chess: Apple did not invent Chess
Widgets: Konfabulator was out way before widgets in os x
Therefore, Apple stole all of these ideas too.
According to your logic:
iPod/Zune: Apple did not invent the mp3 player
iMovie: Apple did not invent NLE
iCal: Apple did not invent the calendar
Chess: Apple did not invent Chess
Widgets: Konfabulator was out way before widgets in os x
Therefore, Apple stole all of these ideas too.
Some suggestions:My point was that Apple didn't steal Office. As suggested, they bought it. That is my point nothing else. Sorry for any grammar in other messages, i am rather rushed at the moment.
Boganrulz wz here
- You don't need to tell us you were here. We know that by your post(s).
- Don't post if you don't have time to understand the topic and make a cognitive response that everyone can understand.
- You might want to research the subject at hand before posting.
However, if you look at Windows's calendar next to iCal, you can see A LOT of similarities which are beyond "inspiration" and closer to theft of ideas...
If I walk into Target and steal a DVD, is it really not stealing since Target didn't invent the DVD?
That said, I agree that with these examples, M$ isn't stealing
Just gonna say this quickly here
The iPod wasn't the first MP3 player, iMovie was not the first video editing software (but probably the first packaged on al computers), widgets and gadgets are kinda stolen from konfobulator.
Honestly, Microsoft was 5 years too late with the Zune.
The iPod wasn't the first MP3 player, iMovie was not the first video editing software (but probably the first packaged on al computers), widgets and gadgets are kinda stolen from konfobulator.
Honestly, Microsoft was 5 years too late with the Zune.
Creating a competing product doesn't really qualify as stealing, especially if the interface and concepts of using the application are totally different. Regardless, if we take your definition of stolen, Microsoft stole Word from Lotus Notes and apps like that, and they in turn stole it from typewriters.
While the Zune was pretty much a "me too!" product, at least they didn't copy the interface and scroll wheel.
Interface is identical, so yeah, direct ripoffs. The concept of a Calendar or photo organizer aren't ripoffs, but these products are exact duplicates.
Please. Vista doesn't have anything NEAR the usefulness of expose.
Granted, these aren't original Apple ideas (see Google Desktop and Konfabulator).
Rather large? It was like 3%. And it was non-voting shares. And Apple since bought it back.
People get it all wrong.
It's not who comes up with the product "first", it's who gets it right faster.
I think what happens is that M$ "tries" to capture the "feel" of Apple products, the "cool" factor, the "it just works" principle, now, wether they get it right or not it's up to you to form an opinion.
Apple copies when it needs too, M$ too.
M$ just seems to be a little more... "needy", LMAO!
http://www.mackido.com/
(Information about xerox story and other Apple controversies)
It's not who comes up with the product "first", it's who gets it right faster.
I think what happens is that M$ "tries" to capture the "feel" of Apple products, the "cool" factor, the "it just works" principle, now, wether they get it right or not it's up to you to form an opinion.
Apple copies when it needs too, M$ too.
M$ just seems to be a little more... "needy", LMAO!
http://www.mackido.com/
(Information about xerox story and other Apple controversies)
iWork http://www.apple.com/iWork contains Pages and Keynote and is made by Apple
Word and PowerPoint comes in Microsoft Office which is made by Microsoft
Word and PowerPoint comes in Microsoft Office which is made by Microsoft
How can Apple steal iWork from someone else, they have been making similar integrated application for 20+ years.
AppleWorks released for Apple 2 in 1984
Of course iWork is a step back and forward at the same time, since a major chunk of functionality was lost while AppleWorks withers.
Come out with the spreadsheet already Apple and add a Filemaker Lite package to the box...
AppleWorks released for Apple 2 in 1984
Of course iWork is a step back and forward at the same time, since a major chunk of functionality was lost while AppleWorks withers.
Come out with the spreadsheet already Apple and add a Filemaker Lite package to the box...
But Windows doesn't have a cool cube transition like Apple.
it does, try do a google search for "windows cube". but of course, best cube is in linux, at least for now...or in next 2 years
ps. u can even do a cube effect when switching tabs in firefox, which, obviously, is windows only, and D3D sponsored.
To all, the topic is insane, steal is totally abused, first, OP better define what a "steal" is. Its not like in order to do something, only one app is allowed, and nobody should compete with that "first in kind"?
This whole argument is just stupid. Let's take firefox for example. They invent tabbed browsing (I don't know if they did but let's just assume) and it was a good idea. Really makes browsing easier. Is nobody else ever allowed to use this idea without being accused of stealing?
If people didn't take inspiration from what came before we would be nowhere. Standing on the shoulders of giants and all of that. People should be glad that good ideas are recognised and make their way into more products. If all software continues to get better (Microsofts, Apples, Whoevers) who exactly is losing here?
If people didn't take inspiration from what came before we would be nowhere. Standing on the shoulders of giants and all of that. People should be glad that good ideas are recognised and make their way into more products. If all software continues to get better (Microsofts, Apples, Whoevers) who exactly is losing here?