Apple and the AMD Fusion

[Hellhammer]

I was a big ATI fan until I got my recent GTX 460. ATI can do well for lower power and mobile GPUs.

GTX 460 is the only Fermi worth buying. ATI's 6800-series is really pushing it though. nVidia's issue seems to be that they cannot deliver a balanced lineup, only one or two decent GPUs.

Sure there are some features that are nVidia only but ATI is the winner of 40nm roundup. Hopefully 28nm will be a better fight. nVidia just needs to be faster, it's not worth it to release DX11 GPUs almost a year after ATI as most people have already done the switch.

Hmm, ATI is joining the infamous renaming game linky

 

[Eidorian]

GTX 460 is the only Fermi worth buying. ATI's 6800-series is really pushing it though. nVidia's issue seems to be that they cannot deliver a balanced lineup, only one or two decent GPUs.

Sure there are some features that are nVidia only but ATI is the winner of 40nm roundup. Hopefully 28nm will be a better fight. nVidia just needs to be faster, it's not worth it to release DX11 GPUs almost a year after ATI as most people have already done the switch.

Hmm, ATI is joining the infamous renaming game linky

There are many regions outside of the US where AMD does play naming games or even throws in new products to fill a gap. (The 3830 and 4860 come to mind.)

nVidia is taking a page from AMD right now. I remember a time where the RV670 was going to be the 2950 (Pro)/2970 (XT). AMD gave that up and went with the 3850 and 3870 to escape the bad name the 2900 XT had made. RV670 wasn't much of a change from RV600 but it was enough of an escape route. GF110 is what nVidia has to play with even if it's optimizations and a another shader group.

Bit-tech took a moment to give their thoughts. The GF114 should just be the remaining shader group unlocked from the GF104 and a few more tweaks.

Zacate looks like a real winner in the $400-600 region of portables. I just hope the vendors have enough sense to throw in a SSD and a decent display. The HD 5500 level power and Atom killer CPU can sell the rest. It's just the plastic fantastic and razor thin margins they rely on. Give us something nice to buy in that region. Asus does wonders with the ePC series right now. (ION, HD displays) I expect more from AMD based ones.

Where is my 15 or 17" MacBook Air?

 

[CaoCao]

GTX 460 is the only Fermi worth buying. ATI's 6800-series is really pushing it though. nVidia's issue seems to be that they cannot deliver a balanced lineup, only one or two decent GPUs.

Sure there are some features that are nVidia only but ATI is the winner of 40nm roundup. Hopefully 28nm will be a better fight. nVidia just needs to be faster, it's not worth it to release DX11 GPUs almost a year after ATI as most people have already done the switch.

Hmm, ATI is joining the infamous renaming game linky

IIRC everything got scaled up because of Fusion having to many chips to use ordinary nomenclature

 

[Eidorian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uy5o2Cej6Y

Llano (Lan-o ) is demoed in this video I found linked on HotHardware. It looks like they had the MSI notebook (Zacate) on running the HD video playback on loop.

 

[Yamcha]

I really hope we see AMD on Macs, AMD still has the best price to performance ratio. Especially since the 6800 Series kicked off, not to mention the Phenom II's are great.

But even better, AMD is going to be releasing new processors on 2011.. The Bobcat and Bulldozer, I think they will fair very well against the Core I Series..

Anyway yup, I'm really hoping Apple will be using the fusion platform..

 

[TSE]

I sent sjobs@apple.com an e-mail tonight concerning AMD and Apple. Hopefully I get a reply.

 

[Hellhammer]

Fudzilla is reporting that a very reliable source which is close to AMD has confirmed that Apple will use Fusion in some products.

 

[Eidorian]

On the other side it looks like Intel might settle with nVidia but it'll only be with money.

http://semiaccurate.com/2010/11/12/intel-said-settle-nvidia/

 

[Eidorian]

PCPer has their preview of the Brazos platform.

It looks like the GPU is back down to 80 stream units from the previous mention of 160. That's an increase over the current 40 that AMD has on their IGPs.

The dual core AMD E-350 looks like a good Atom killer but can't match the CPU performance of the Penryn SU2300. This changes when you look at power draw though. Brazos is clearly taking Atom on in that arena compared to the much more hungry Core 2 based one.

Brazos should be bring much more all around systems where Atom currently exists right now and requiring fewer additions like the second generation ION to bolster the GPU department for Intel.

Llano is where Apple should be aiming if they want to see an increase over the current Core 2 ULV environment but the power draw aims it at the 13" MacBook (Pro) instead of the Air.

 

[jav6454]

I just read the nVidia v Intel debacle on the above link. What is Intel paying nVidia for? Intel took away the rights from DMI license, what is nVidia b*tching about if they don't own them?

Am I missing something here?

 

[Eidorian]

I just read the nVidia v Intel debacle on the above link. What is Intel paying nVidia for? Intel took away the rights from DMI license, what is nVidia b*tching about if they don't own them?

Am I missing something here?

To be honest I have no idea what grounds nVidia has in order to reach a settlement payout. They've given up on the chipset market as well.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainbo...dia_We_Are_Not_Building_Chipsets_Anymore.html