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Apple Announces M4 Max Chip: Up to 16-Core CPU, Up to 40-Core GPU, Up to 128GB of RAM, and More
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This is making a rather big assumption that it is technically/physically possible to do so. I hope so but we cannot realistically assume so. There have been amazing breakthroughs in both fabrication and design for quite some time but progress won't necessarily continue at this rate forever.
It was true (hard to prove now that the Apple site's page has been switched to the Mac Mini M4) but the issue was that the memory upgrade pricing on the Mac Mini has been so high that 32GB configurations of the Mac Mini M2 Pro cost +/- comparable configurations of the Mac Studio w/32GB. $300 less if you didn't get 10 Gigabit Ethernet nor upgraded M2 Pro chip to come closer to the M2 Max chip and $100 more if you added both. At least it was in the US store.
WIth the M4 came somewhat revised pricing. Now a non-Pro M4 goes up to 32GB where it prices at $1300 when configured with 512GB, and 10 Gigabit. There's still a price jump for the M4 Pro but then the memory upgrade pricing is also somewhat less there (not quite as cheap per GB as the Studio but still better than $25/GB) so for roughly the same price as the base Studio M2 Max you can actually get more RAM (but less other things).
The net from this week is a little less hard to explain overlap among the product lines now.
Wow. Apple sure know how to charge for upgrades. I really wish Windows and Linux weren’t as bad as they are…
This is interesting. We're back to the 8/10 P-Cores for the Pro and 10/12 for the Max. I had though the M3 nerfed the Pro because it wasn't getting enough differentiation between Pro and Max chips. For instance, for people who only care about CPU performance, the M1 and M2 Pros gave identical performance with the Max chips.
And while the M4 has some separation between the Pro and Max, going back to 8 P-Cores is welcome. I just kinda hate I bought an M3 Pro only 8 months ago.
And while the M4 has some separation between the Pro and Max, going back to 8 P-Cores is welcome. I just kinda hate I bought an M3 Pro only 8 months ago.
Actually, mine was not a praise.
Although an assumption, the chip advancement in the last few decades have been quite consistent, apart from new tech that allowed for a higher than usual jump in performance.
That's because companies are way ahead of what is shown to costumers, so they pace the advancements with each new device being sold.
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Source: I bought described Studio M2 Max in US for 2200$ after comparing with Mini.
Looks like lineups are better separated now as @bzgnyc2 already noted.
Random link with same conclusion: https://athomewithtech.com/2023/07/...t-mac-studio-over-the-most-powerful-mac-mini/
OK - so what 24GB VRAM? That leaves you with 104GB of RAM with top spec MBP.
Most modern top spec gpus have 1TB/sec bandwith which get bottlenecked by chipset BUS. Also most x86 RAM bandwith is around 64GB/s. M4 Max has 525GB/s all around, offering better memory management and GPU memory allocation.
Spec by spec might not be very accurate as you're comparing apples to pears. Let's see real world results.
So then price can play role, or Apple want something new for next year or they simply know that percentage of users bothered with that is low.
I'm wondering the same thing. Is it worth the extra $200 in Pro Mini. My thoughts are it won't make that much of a difference to justify the cost.
Kuo: iPhone 17 to Feature Apple-Designed Wi-Fi 7 Chip
At least one iPhone 17 model launching next year will be equipped with an Apple-designed Wi-Fi 7 chip, according to Apple supply chain analyst...
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Just got an article
People still hold on to their M1 Macs, Apple wants to give them reason to upgrade.
For those who ordered m4 max 128gb version today, what’s your estimated delivery date? Is it possible to see the actual delivery estimate before payment?
I had to pay to see it. Which is 18th of November and is a bit too soon for me lol
I had to pay to see it. Which is 18th of November and is a bit too soon for me lol
Historically the higher spec Pro gave a 10% boost to its cheaper counterpart. The price difference however is less than 10%, so it's worth it.
Incredible performance - that SHOULD'VE occurred withthe M3. Also with only a 100GB/Sec increase in shared memory bus speeds and still ONLY eaching 128GB max RAM in tge M4 Pro Max (recall this debut with the M2 Max) SoC, it would seem Apple is hitting a threshold they cannot break through!
Key Points:
1.its been 2yrs now since their Wxecutive of SoC Jony Srouji has made a launch appearance!
2. This was not a live recording so why is their dweeb presenter of the MBP announcement STILL making the sad mistake between TB4 at the VERY beginning of the presentation when mentioning poets of thr MBP and yet at the end stating TB5?!!
Like HOW could they maje such a nistake fly?!
Laziness in editing. I guess Apple zintelligence wasnt rrady nor ynderstood tge difference if their humans failed at this. Im not being a clown here 40Gb/s (TB4) vs 120Gb/s (TB5) is a HUGE jump and a mistake like this can significantly cause drop in sales.
Key Points:
1.its been 2yrs now since their Wxecutive of SoC Jony Srouji has made a launch appearance!
2. This was not a live recording so why is their dweeb presenter of the MBP announcement STILL making the sad mistake between TB4 at the VERY beginning of the presentation when mentioning poets of thr MBP and yet at the end stating TB5?!!
Like HOW could they maje such a nistake fly?!
Laziness in editing. I guess Apple zintelligence wasnt rrady nor ynderstood tge difference if their humans failed at this. Im not being a clown here 40Gb/s (TB4) vs 120Gb/s (TB5) is a HUGE jump and a mistake like this can significantly cause drop in sales.
They really do. They really understand revenue maximization. I just noticed on the US edu store that their biggest % discount is on the entry-level chassis ($100 out of $600 or >16%) but the memory and SSD upgrades are only 10%. I would have thought the entry-level model had the lowest margins while the Pro chassis and especially the memory/SSD upgrades have the most mark-up giving the latter the most room to discount but apparently not...
You would think after 20+ years they would have closed the gap...
I could probably mod a Linux or Free/OpenBSD/etc to get close to what I want but it would take a lot of my time and I would miss the 3rd party support (MS Office, Tableau Desktop, etc). Not to mention Apple's Photos and iTunes pretty much already work the way I want.
And it’d be constant maintenance and troubleshooting. And tweak as much as you like, but there’s no Linux equivalent of Settings, no amount of customisation and installing different packagers from different repos will give you a single, coherent UI for managing system settings. And whenever anything does go wrong, you’ll never find a guide to help you that uses the exact same UI as you, it’ll all be command line, and you’ll never know for sure if the instructions are entirely relevant for your situation, as your environment might not be quite the same as the one they were written for.
Actually all that is fine for me and I already spend a lot of time on maintenance and troubleshooting making the Mac what I want. I do like things the way I like them. For people in my extended family, though it would all be a burden. Possibly working for a while until it didn't after which I would probably be on the phone with them for hours at a time...
For me sticking with the Mac really comes down to a native UNIX system with commercial application support along with finding replacements for the Apple apps that already work the way I want.
Yeah, what I tell people is if you enjoy sys admin then Linux might be for you; if you don’t, it’s not.