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I don't think apple betrays iPhones business hopes because the iPhone was/is/will be a consumer device. It was designed, implemented and marketed as a consumer device. Apple had no desire to enter the business forray

Just look at the iPhone features, its all focused on the consumer experience and not the enterprise.

I don't see why people are getting up in arms about this since apple's attention has always been on the consumer and its worked. Why mess with success.
 
I don't think apple betrays iPhones business hopes because the iPhone was/is/will be a consumer device. It was designed, implemented and marketed as a consumer device. Apple had no desire to enter the business forray

Just look at the iPhone features, its all focused on the consumer experience and not the enterprise.

I don't see why people are getting up in arms about this since apple's attention has always been on the consumer and its worked. Why mess with success.

...except that Apple disagrees with you.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/business/

From the site
With secure access to corporate networks, thousands of third-party business applications, and an enterprise developer program for in-house apps, iPhone 3GS is ready to go to work.

http://www.apple.com/business/ (for the more general marketing towards business)

:rolleyes:
 
I was unaware of that page. I still stand by my conviction that the design of the iPhone is geared more towards a consumer then the enterprise. Apple seems to want its cake and eat it too, at least originally.
 
I was unaware of that page. I still stand by my conviction that the design of the iPhone is geared more towards a consumer then the enterprise. Apple seems to want its cake and eat it too, at least originally.

I agree with you in the assessment that it's really a consumer device. But that's the whole point of this thread I think. Apple came out extolling the virtues of the iPhone as a business class device. They speak of Enterprise support, etc. Many of the lemmings around here immediately went into full on lust mode, blathering on about how this was the "Blackberry killer" for business, etc. Now that it's becoming blatantly obvious that they are failing to align the solution in a manner that businesses would accept, I'm hearing some of those same fans now say "it was never meant to do that anyway." The blindness is simply astounding!

I'm not saying you fit into that category, but it's definitely a common theme around here. Point blank, Apple is and has pitched this as a business tool and they have yet to figure out the basic needs of the business market.
 
Curious what makes the iPhone less of a business device. Is it the gen 1,2 lack of encryption? To me that is all it is. With an Exchange 2007 backend, the iPhone actually does the whole exchange activesync thing better than winmo. Granted I am on a 3GS. I work for a Fortune 500 company who recently set up an exchange activesync server allowing iPhones to connect. I could not be happier with this solution over our existing Blackberry setup. But flame away and call me a fanboi...whatever. I just use what works best, and for me the iPhone is every bit a properly working enterprise device. I have full exchange support along with all the remote wipe stuff. Seemless syncing of other non exchange cal and contact data (All presented in a logical way; something bb and winmo can't say). Say what you will about this, but apple allows true segmentation of home data allowing a user to decouple home data from exchange while still presenting it in a way that is not disjointed and is logical. I have native VPN. I have ssh. This little device is a UNIX admins dream. The proper exchange support on my 3gs is just icing on the cake. Apple just needs to get off their butts quick and fix the gen 1,2 encryption issue by putting software encryption on the devices. I'm sure they can figure that out.
 
The iphone DOES NOT do activesync better then the windows mobile. I mean 3.0 finally brought more than one folder push but it pushes them to inbox even if your rules had sorted it to another folder.
 
The iphone DOES NOT do activesync better then the windows mobile. I mean 3.0 finally brought more than one folder push but it pushes them to inbox even if your rules had sorted it to another folder.

Uh no it doesent. I have a meriad of rules set up and they all work just fine. I currenly sync my inbox and other folders that are pre-sorted by rules I set up in outlook and everything appears in the proper boxes. Sounds like your outlook/exchange setup is to blame. So what feature or functionality makes Winmo better than iPhone?
 
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