Apple "botched its new operating system Snow Leopard"

[SAIRUS]

Heres why Windows 7 is being marked well, because Vista had a terrible experience (well its quite okay if you have the hardware and a few updates really). So the jump of quality is a lot. Windows 7 is pretty good though, and I do like it.

Snow Leopard wasn't that much of a noticeable jump to the average consumer, but it was already coming off a pretty stable OS. Apple is known for their anti-windows setups with little viruses (come on, they can get them), and a lot smoother experience. So when they have a hiccup, it directly cuts into their advantage over windows.

Still I like both. Windows just finally made a huge stride because it was behind and it got noticed more.

 

[djellison]

Do you know what you are doing?

It just works, doesn't it?

I'm just describing my personal experiences after nearly 3 years of mac ownership.

 

[xIGmanIx]

i don't think they botched SL, i just think some folks expectations were off and bought into the apple speak. This to me was more house cleaning than bells and whistles. In that aspect it was a success, however due to issues with the software that is leveraged on the OS, it has not gone over well. Apple did what they wanted to do, clean house, however it wasn't as flawless as they would have liked, and people are upset rightfully so.

 

[gnasher729]

Then why aim it at consumers as well? Leave it in the hands of developers for another 18 months, then roll it out with some new features when someone's actually done something with 10.6 that an end user might find useful.

Because developers can't use new features if users don't have the OS in their hands. That is how software development works; Apple has to get the OS supporting new features out to the users, and _then_ will developers use it. Every time something new is introduced, it will benefit you 18 months later. If you think it should be introduced 18 months later, well tough, you will get the benefits 36 months later.

 

[Eidorian]

Because developers can't use new features if users don't have the OS in their hands. That is how software development works; Apple has to get the OS supporting new features out to the users, and _then_ will developers use it. Every time something new is introduced, it will benefit you 18 months later. If you think it should be introduced 18 months later, well tough, you will get the benefits 36 months later.

Where have the developers been then? WWDC and the time between then didn't matter?

It's not like they have to wait until retail launch like us common people. Leopard's promises just now are starting to feel fulfilled.

 

[Topher15]

djellison

I wonder, with seemingly nothing positive to say about OS X (at least in comparison to Windows), why are you a Mac user?

Quicktime X is a downgrade.

Not really considering Quicktime 7 is still included in Snow Leopard! Watching media in Quicktime X is fantastic, especially if it isn't in full screen. If you need to edit/cut files together and encode then just use Quicktime 7.

Finder changes and Quicklook improvements? Not noticed them.

Maybe you should look.

Safari is STILL a damn mess.

How/why?

Stacks improvements? You means it's ALMOST like we were promised when they were very first demonstrated two years ago?

I never saw the first demo of Stacks include the ability to drill into folders or scroll. Either way it's still an improvement over the previous Stacks.

Expose I don't actually see any changes that ware different to the old 4 expose function buttons we used to have.

I have to wonder how much do you use OS X compared to Windows?

Expose has been added into the Dock; it now has a grid layout which allows you to order windows alphabetically or by app; it now includes minimized apps.

Exchange? Don't use it.

It's still a massive development for OS X.

As i said- these are personal experiences.

Right, they're personal experiences, which is precisely why you should avoid the blanket statements that you've been making about SL. For most people, given the price of SL, it is a worthy upgrade.

Also, even enough we don't directly see or interact with the under-the-hood changes I don't think they should be underestimated.

£75 for Win7.

Which version? Is that a student price.

Not really. Apple moved to full 64 bit support, enhanced multicore processing and CPU/GPU load switching all of which have been available on Windows for some time.

I'm thinking of the whole OS. Overall Apple have developed their OS, technically, under-the-hood and from a user experience, far better than Microsoft has.

Going back to the original point, W7 has been better received than SL. That's a bit worrying for Apple

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Absolutely, but just look at what Win7 was being compared to! Anything Microsoft put out after Vista would have been well received. Snow Leopard on the other hand was following one of the best OS releases ever and was only intended to be a maintenance release. The leap between Vista/Win7 was big whereas Leopard/SL wasn't. That why I said a direct comparison between Vista/Win7 and Leopard/SL wasn't accurate or fair.

 

[djellison]

Which version? Is that a student price.

I've not been a student for a long time.

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