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Apple Confirms Serious MacBook Pro Problems

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"Apple Confirms Serious MacBook Pro Problems"

www.forbes.com

Apple Confirms Serious MacBook Pro Problems

While the latest M1 powered Macs have picked up praise, there have also been problems. Is Apple set to fix the bluetooth issues that were present out of the box?
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

I wish I could get my M1 money back! I've never had so many computer issues since Windows 8.0. It's wonderful that other users report that their M1 works fine. Great! For me, I don't know if it's the M1 chip or BigSur. I don't know if my workflow is too much for it. I run apps like DEVONthink, Tinderbox, Scrivener, and Curio. None of those are really processor intensive but they all crash regularly... forcing me back to my mid 2012 MacBook Air. But the worst offender is Apple's own Music app. From issues with Slow performance, Airplay not working on more than 1 apple speaker (i.e., I can output to Apple TV but it is impossible to output to Apple TV & HomePod at the same time), to the spinny rainbow wheel, to just plain old freezing the laptop. I hate it all and this is not what I signed up for. I spent 1.5 hours with Apple troubleshooting the Airplay issue. They gave up... and so did I. So, this is my M1 experience:

- Apps crashing (generating crash reports)
- Spinny rainbow wheels which can take up to 40 seconds to resolve
- Mac freezing (no other option than to shut it off)
- Bluetooth issues
- Airplay issues
- Slow performance and lagging at times

Is it just me? Is it Big Sur? M1? Are others experiencing this?
 
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Feels more like Windows NT 4.0. On top of other issues a new one that just happened is Spotlight stopped working out of the blue then starting working again after a few reboots. Best part is there's been no Big Sur update in almost two months to address the issues. Waiting for the bots to come on and say we're using it wrong.
 
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rewf said:
"Apple Confirms Serious MacBook Pro Problems"

www.forbes.com

Apple Confirms Serious MacBook Pro Problems

While the latest M1 powered Macs have picked up praise, there have also been problems. Is Apple set to fix the bluetooth issues that were present out of the box?
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

I wish I could get my M1 money back! I've never had so many computer issues since Windows 8.0. It's wonderful that other users report that their M1 works fine. Great! For me, I don't know if it's the M1 chip or BigSur. I don't know if my workflow is too much for it. I run apps like DEVONthink, Tinderbox, Scrivener, and Curio. None of those are really processor intensive but they all crash regularly... forcing me back to my mid 2012 MacBook Air. But the worst offender is Apple's own Music app. From issues with Slow performance, Airplay not working on more than 1 apple speaker (i.e., I can output to Apple TV but it is impossible to output to Apple TV & HomePod at the same time), to the spinny rainbow wheel, to just plain old freezing the laptop. I hate it all and this is not what I signed up for. I spent 1.5 hours with Apple troubleshooting the Airplay issue. They gave up... and so did I. So, this is my M1 experience:

- Apps crashing (generating crash reports)
- Spinny rainbow wheels which can take up to 40 seconds to resolve
- Mac freezing (no other option than to shut it off)
- Bluetooth issues
- Airplay issues
- Slow performance and lagging at times

Is it just me? Is it Big Sur? M1? Are others experiencing this?
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I am not familiar with the apps you mentioned. Are they ARM native or running via Rosetta 2?
 
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I knew that it was an Ewan Spence article before opening the link ? Also, that article is almost three months old. And yes, we know that M1 Macs had problems with Bluetooth at launch - we knew it since November.
 
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rewf said:
"Apple Confirms Serious MacBook Pro Problems"

www.forbes.com

Apple Confirms Serious MacBook Pro Problems

While the latest M1 powered Macs have picked up praise, there have also been problems. Is Apple set to fix the bluetooth issues that were present out of the box?
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

I wish I could get my M1 money back! I've never had so many computer issues since Windows 8.0. It's wonderful that other users report that their M1 works fine. Great! For me, I don't know if it's the M1 chip or BigSur. I don't know if my workflow is too much for it. I run apps like DEVONthink, Tinderbox, Scrivener, and Curio. None of those are really processor intensive but they all crash regularly... forcing me back to my mid 2012 MacBook Air. But the worst offender is Apple's own Music app. From issues with Slow performance, Airplay not working on more than 1 apple speaker (i.e., I can output to Apple TV but it is impossible to output to Apple TV & HomePod at the same time), to the spinny rainbow wheel, to just plain old freezing the laptop. I hate it all and this is not what I signed up for. I spent 1.5 hours with Apple troubleshooting the Airplay issue. They gave up... and so did I. So, this is my M1 experience:

- Apps crashing (generating crash reports)
- Spinny rainbow wheels which can take up to 40 seconds to resolve
- Mac freezing (no other option than to shut it off)
- Bluetooth issues
- Airplay issues
- Slow performance and lagging at times

Is it just me? Is it Big Sur? M1? Are others experiencing this?
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JANUARY 11Th... common...
 
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Yah, that article is old before 11.2. But I can tell that 11.3 will be better and are eminent. The current beta is release candidate.

I still get more crashes than my old intel machines, but a lot less than 11.2 and it is primarely the cloudphotod proccess which crashes in the background on wakeup.

My usb-hub has also been iffy, which I also hope gets better. It is currently working fine though.
 
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Sorry OP, not buying that crap article you posted. Firstly if Apple CONFIRMED serious MacBook Pro problems then it would've been all over the usual tech news sites such as....um...Macrumors!! It hasn't been posted. Of course 9 to 5 Mac would've been first to post this. Nowhere is this stated. Much of your issues are perhaps from apps that are not M1-native. Everything you described is software, not hardware so that's nonsense that the MacBook Pro has serious problems. Hilarious the OP had to go to a non-tech/non-Mac-related site to get news about M1 MacBook Pro problems. Hmm.
 
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Maconplasma said:
Sorry OP, not buying that crap article you posted. Firstly if Apple CONFIRMED serious MacBook Pro problems then it would've been all over the usual tech news sites such as....um...Macrumors!! It hasn't been posted. Of course 9 to 5 Mac would've been first to post this. Nowhere is this stated. Much of your issues are perhaps from apps that are not M1-native. Everything you described is software, not hardware so that's nonsense that the MacBook Pro has serious problems. Hilarious the OP had to go to a non-tech/non-Mac-related site to get news about M1 MacBook Pro problems. Hmm.
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Thanks. I am thinking that my issues are app related and I'll need to look into that further. The apps I mention are all running ARM native. I have not overstated or exaggerated my issues however.
 
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mi7chy said:
Feels more like Windows NT 4.0. On top of other issues a new one that just happened is Spotlight stopped working out of the blue then starting working again after a few reboots. Best part is there's been no Big Sur update in almost two months to address the issues. Waiting for the bots to come on and say we're using it wrong.
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Windows NT 4.0 worked well for me in the day. And at the time as a systems engineer, we were working and managing a few thousand systems with the OS. Issues "Yes" but issues kept us employed :). But generally ok.

We are only at 11.2.3. We have generally 4 more versions to get to 11.6. Over all, Big Sir has been good so far for a major overhaul if looking at what Apple accomplished in the transition. Yes..there are issues as all "new" OS's will have in the onset, especially introducing a new platform. But overall, probably history will say that Big Sir was a slam dunk "generally" for Apple (personal opinions and preferences including personal tastes put aside). It runs great on every system personally I have, going back to a MacBook Air 2013 (and Apple fixed the blurry text issue for non-retina screens - they did not have too...but they did - a plus!)

I am hoping that Apple will just forgo a 12.x and just refine and fix issues with the next offering of macOS. If they do, I think most will not care if we don't have macOS Monetary or Redwood or something like that.

Get this version tight and Snow Leopard will takes second place in OS history... :) (that is my opinion of course...) :)
 
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Thanks. I am thinking that my issues are app related and I'll need to look into that further. The apps I mention are all running ARM native. I have not overstated or exaggerated my issues however.
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Oh no, I absolutely believe what you stated in terms of your issues. It's these crazy articles from Forbes that are trying to bring Apple's winning products down as usual. The M1 has received so much deserved praise. Trust the fact if it there was a serious problem with the MacBook Pro Macrumors front page news would've posted it. What you can do is to backup your files and perform a complete erase and install and manually install your applications one by one rather than a dump. Also make sure you have no 32bit apps installed or non-native M1 apps and they may be causing your beachballs and instability of your setup.
 
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loby said:
I am hoping that Apple will just forgo a 12.x and just refine and fix issues with the next offering of macOS. If they do, I think most will not care if we don't have macOS Monetary or Redwood or something like that.
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Pretty sure Big Sur will be the current OS for the rest of the year. Highly doubt Apple will introduce a new OS at WWDC. Big Sur is the first OS to support M1 and Apple is pushing their new chip design with Big Sur.
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Get this version tight and Snow Leopard will takes second place in OS history... :) (that is my opinion of course...) :)
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Sorry but Snow Leopard had problems right out of the box on version zero. It wasn't good until version 3. Apple had to immediately do a software update the same week it came out. People had install issues, too much transparency which required two additional small software updates the same week to get the right amount of transparency because the drop down menus were impossible to read. You obviously haven't been a Mac user before SL because MacOS X Tiger 10.4 was the best version of MacOS in the MacOS X era. It was perfect right out of the box on version zero. It was so good that Microsoft tried to copy it with that crap Vista.
 
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rewf said:
"Apple Confirms Serious MacBook Pro Problems"

www.forbes.com

Apple Confirms Serious MacBook Pro Problems

While the latest M1 powered Macs have picked up praise, there have also been problems. Is Apple set to fix the bluetooth issues that were present out of the box?
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

I wish I could get my M1 money back! I've never had so many computer issues since Windows 8.0. It's wonderful that other users report that their M1 works fine. Great! For me, I don't know if it's the M1 chip or BigSur. I don't know if my workflow is too much for it. I run apps like DEVONthink, Tinderbox, Scrivener, and Curio. None of those are really processor intensive but they all crash regularly... forcing me back to my mid 2012 MacBook Air. But the worst offender is Apple's own Music app. From issues with Slow performance, Airplay not working on more than 1 apple speaker (i.e., I can output to Apple TV but it is impossible to output to Apple TV & HomePod at the same time), to the spinny rainbow wheel, to just plain old freezing the laptop. I hate it all and this is not what I signed up for. I spent 1.5 hours with Apple troubleshooting the Airplay issue. They gave up... and so did I. So, this is my M1 experience:

- Apps crashing (generating crash reports)
- Spinny rainbow wheels which can take up to 40 seconds to resolve
- Mac freezing (no other option than to shut it off)
- Bluetooth issues
- Airplay issues
- Slow performance and lagging at times

Is it just me? Is it Big Sur? M1? Are others experiencing this?
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The quoted article is from 3 months ago.
 
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