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jdb8167

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Pretty sure Big Sur will be the current OS for the rest of the year. Highly doubt Apple will introduce a new OS at WWDC. Big Sur is the first OS to support M1 and Apple is pushing their new chip design with Big Sur.
I would be surprised if Apple didn’t come out with a new version of macOS at WWDC. They’ve been pretty consistent recently with a new version once a year.

Having said that, I would totally be on board with Apple skipping a new version to stabilize Big Sur.
 

rewf

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Oh no, I absolutely believe what you stated in terms of your issues. It's these crazy articles from Forbes that are trying to bring Apple's winning products down as usual. The M1 has received so much deserved praise. Trust the fact if it there was a serious problem with the MacBook Pro Macrumors front page news would've posted it. What you can do is to backup your files and perform a complete erase and install and manually install your applications one by one rather than a dump. Also make sure you have no 32bit apps installed or non-native M1 apps and they may be causing your beachballs and instability of your setup.
I will never lead with a Forbes (or any other) article again 😑.
You are indeed correct in that this MB is the result of a big dump. I suppose I will need to erase and install manually as a minimal first step. I'm not excited about that but it's clearly the logical first step.
 
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eltoslightfoot

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I will never lead with a Forbes (or any other) article again 😑.
You are indeed correct in that this MB is the result of a big dump. I suppose I will need to erase and install manually as a minimal first step. I'm not excited about that but it's clearly the logical first step.
It could be curio, as I said, I have all the other apps and no problem on my base m1 MacBook Air….
 

jdb8167

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I will never lead with a Forbes (or any other) article again 😑.
You are indeed correct in that this MB is the result of a big dump. I suppose I will need to erase and install manually as a minimal first step. I'm not excited about that but it's clearly the logical first step.
Make sure you read up on how to erase an M1 Mac. It isn’t as straightforward as it should be. How to erase a Mac with Apple Silicon.
 
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loby

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Pretty sure Big Sur will be the current OS for the rest of the year. Highly doubt Apple will introduce a new OS at WWDC. Big Sur is the first OS to support M1 and Apple is pushing their new chip design with Big Sur.

Sorry but Snow Leopard had problems right out of the box on version zero. It wasn't good until version 3. Apple had to immediately do a software update the same week it came out. People had install issues, too much transparency which required two additional small software updates the same week to get the right amount of transparency because the drop down menus were impossible to read. You obviously haven't been a Mac user before SL because MacOS X Tiger 10.4 was the best version of MacOS in the MacOS X era. It was perfect right out of the box on version zero. It was so good that Microsoft tried to copy it with that crap Vista.
Fair enough...Yes I remember Snow Leopard had issues out of the box literally, but I tried to (very poorly it seems) to compare Snow Leopard to Big Sur at both versions at 2.3. I believe Big Sur at .3 will be satisfactory stable overall like Snow Leopard was at .3.

I technically "started" seriously with Apple in the Leopard era after ditching Windows at the time (though as a youth worked with Apple products all they way back in the day to Apple IIe). Apple's OS was always superior in my opinion...but HAD to use Microsoft (forced) due to work.

I stand to be corrected...Yes, Tiger is the "best" Apple OS hands down. That was the OS that made me consider jumping ship from Microsoft and see the light. :) (and I was studying at the time to be a Microsoft Architect if anyone is old enough to remembers that. :)
 
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MrGunny94

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Despite what "press" and "reviewers" say all the feedback I have been getting from people who use it on day to day basis agree that it's an awesome product. Especially folks who used MS Teams mainly, with the M1 they have no fans issue and CPU spikes like on their previous Intel machines, even using Rosetta.

I'm quite interested to see where Apple Silicon will go in the next couple of years
 
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BigMcGuire

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Yeah, as someone who frequents news (and has for the last 10 years) - Forbes has really gone down hill recently.

The M1, while not perfect, has been one of the best computing experiences I've had since me using a 286 as a wee little kid. I used Windows until 2015 - first Mac was a 2015 MBA and that changed my life. I didn't have to lug around a 12 pound dell laptop to classes. Never looked back. The M1 has replaced a 2020 13' MBP i7 and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

I'm surprised how fast/well it runs old apps through Rosetta.
 

snorkelman

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I would be surprised if Apple didn’t come out with a new version of macOS at WWDC. They’ve been pretty consistent recently with a new version once a year.

Having said that, I would totally be on board with Apple skipping a new version to stabilize Big Sur.

Well they could always just give BigSur 11.x a new name and number and throw a couple of new shiny baubles into it :)
 

xaqt93

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Not trying to sound like a jerk or a troll...but I have the M1 MacBook Pro and this thing is seriously amazing...I have not had any problems with mine and use a lot of apps. I am a flight instructor and use it to make lesson plans and I also use it to teach students, so the multitasking gets pretty intense at times...
 

JMacHack

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I am hoping that Apple will just forgo a 12.x and just refine and fix issues with the next offering of macOS. If they do, I
Get this version tight and Snow Leopard will takes second place in OS history... :) (that is my opinion of course...) :)
Snow Leopard is way overrated and this is a hill I will die upon.

Having used it extensively, give me Mojave any day.
 
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mgymnop

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"Apple Confirms Serious MacBook Pro Problems"


I wish I could get my M1 money back! I've never had so many computer issues since Windows 8.0. It's wonderful that other users report that their M1 works fine. Great! For me, I don't know if it's the M1 chip or BigSur. I don't know if my workflow is too much for it. I run apps like DEVONthink, Tinderbox, Scrivener, and Curio. None of those are really processor intensive but they all crash regularly... forcing me back to my mid 2012 MacBook Air. But the worst offender is Apple's own Music app. From issues with Slow performance, Airplay not working on more than 1 apple speaker (i.e., I can output to Apple TV but it is impossible to output to Apple TV & HomePod at the same time), to the spinny rainbow wheel, to just plain old freezing the laptop. I hate it all and this is not what I signed up for. I spent 1.5 hours with Apple troubleshooting the Airplay issue. They gave up... and so did I. So, this is my M1 experience:

- Apps crashing (generating crash reports)
- Spinny rainbow wheels which can take up to 40 seconds to resolve
- Mac freezing (no other option than to shut it off)
- Bluetooth issues
- Airplay issues
- Slow performance and lagging at times

Is it just me? Is it Big Sur? M1? Are others experiencing this?
Running Devonthink and Curio with no issues on my MBP M1.
 
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UBS28

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I wouldn't classify Bluetooth connectivity as serious. A faulty battery likely to explode is serious. A faulty Bluetooth connection is an annoyance, but not serious.

Don't get me wrong. Poor Bluetooth connectivity drives me insane.

For me Bluetooth issues is a major issue. Especially if I have it docked to an external monitor with a wireless keyboard and wireless mouse.

Hence why I am holding out for the M2X 14” MBP or 16” MBP which hopefully addressed these “1st-gen” issues (I also have other reasons such as only 2-ports which is not workable for me, since 4-ports is already not enough).

Now I am sure, some people here will say that their machine works 100% perfect, but I don’t care about certain individual cases who might not have Bluetooth issues. The problem is too widespread for me to ignore.
 

UBS28

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Snow Leopard is way overrated and this is a hill I will die upon.

Having used it extensively, give me Mojave any day.

Snow Leopards was the fastest OSX.

OSX has become more slower and more bloated with every release, especially making it “iOS like”.

My 2010 MBP on Snow Leopard shut down instantly for example if I pressed shutdown. Nowadays, Windows 10 shuts down faster than OS X. The performance lead that OS X had over Windows seems to be gone.
 

UBS28

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Because sometimes, the Windows version of software runs much better than the MAC version. And also not everything is available on OSX.
 

jdb8167

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For me Bluetooth issues is a major issue. Especially if I have it docked to an external monitor with a wireless keyboard and wireless mouse.

Hence why I am holding out for the M2X 14” MBP or 16” MBP which hopefully addressed these “1st-gen” issues (I also have other reasons such as only 2-ports which is not workable for me, since 4-ports is already not enough).

Now I am sure, some people here will say that their machine works 100% perfect, but I don’t care about certain individual cases who might not have Bluetooth issues. The problem is too widespread for me to ignore.
I thought macOS 11.3 was supposed to fix the remaining Bluetooth problems. I don't know if it has since I really didn't have any trouble in the first place (a few glitches but nothing chronic.) Have you updated and are you still having BT problems?
 
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