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The thing about the standard emoji is the way in which how people share and use the same image or emoji. When you’re using unique genmoji you loose that shared experience of using the same emoji.

I think the shared experience of the standard Unicode emoji cannot be underestimated.

Take the poo emoji. Everyone knows it, and appreciates it. If you use your own bespoke poo emoji it’s just unlikely to be the same shared experience.

I think this is why the standard emoji still dominate over stickers and other variations amongst many people.
 
Yeah. It’s all for kids. Adults don’t actually need emoji or any of the variations.

Tells you something about how Apple sees its customers these days though.
There is a weird obsession with emoji… I truly wonder what their market research is telling them. Certainly with iPhones, a huge number of users are younger. Which is kind of funny for a super premium device, that is also targeted at older business users and professionals.

That you’re standing at a train station using iPhone Pro, and the kid next to you is using the same device 😂

A world away from the past when there were phones for casual users and the younger, and business users.

It was a gradual change. I remember when there was a short period where blackberry was popular with younger non business users.
 
Not lost here is that if Apple can do some Apple-only/specific things like this with Emoji, that isn't compatible or be handled over the upcoming seemingly forced (getting ahead of some anti trust issues) switch to RCS, it will again keep people with Apple.
The RCS change was because China requires it on all new 5G phones. No other country has that requirement as no other country has the ability to force all carriers to make the infrastructure changes required to support RCS at the carriers. So, for Apple, it was either include RCS OR be shut out of the Chinese market. They chose the former.
 
I think it’ll be a hit with the young ones. Us older peeps usually stick with the emojis we’ve always used. I’ll try it out and if I’m quick enough with the generation part, maybe I’ll use it more than I think I will.
I'm pretty old, and I use the Memojis pretty often. I expect I'll use the generated ones too
 
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Yeah. It’s all for kids. Adults don’t actually need emoji or any of the variations.

Tells you something about how Apple sees its customers these days though.
Yep, kids don't buy or ask their parents to buy because the product is good, but because the marketing has made the kids feel good about the purchase or owning the product. It is a sad state brought on by poor parenting and bad schooling.
 
At least i can talk to chat gpt in my language and get feedback in the same language, at apple everything is almost limited to US, that sucks, looks like the effort went to US customers only. At least rest of the world can now change icon color and move them freerly xD
 
Yep, kids don't buy or ask their parents to buy because the product is good, but because the marketing has made the kids feel good about the purchase or owning the product. It is a sad state brought on by poor parenting and bad schooling.

It’s more about tech companies generally infantilizing their customers.
 
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Meh. I think it's fine. Real people like emojis. Teens like emojis. Gotta keep them happy

It goes without saying that MR members are clearly neither teens nor real people

No, the real atrocity is the app icon tinting. Every screenshot I've seen is eh at best and ugly at worst. If that isn't enough, they even tint widgets, including photos. Just no. I can't believe they signed off on this

Material You does it better IMO.
 
Meh. I think it's fine. Real people like emojis. Teens like emojis. Gotta keep them happy

It goes without saying that MR members are clearly neither teens nor real people

No, the real atrocity is the app icon tinting. Every screenshot I've seen is eh at best and ugly at worst. If that isn't enough, they even tint widgets, including photos. Just no. I can't believe they signed off on this

Material You does it better IMO.

The app icon tinting is in equally poor taste.
 
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Yeah. It’s all for kids. Adults don’t actually need emoji or any of the variations.

Tells you something about how Apple sees its customers these days though.
Yes, but kids have continued to demonstrate the annoying habit of turning into adults. And they remember. And they like what they are already comfortable with. Get the kids and you could likely have a customer forever.
 
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Yes, but kids have continued to demonstrate the annoying habit of turning into adults. And they remember. And they like what they are already comfortable with. Get the kids and you could likely have a customer forever.
Or, at the very least for a good 20-30 years longer than someone 40-50 years older than them. :)
 
Yes, but kids have continued to demonstrate the annoying habit of turning into adults. And they remember. And they like what they are already comfortable with. Get the kids and you could likely have a customer forever.

Like I said: the infantilizing of customers by tech companies.

Rationalize it all you want but the bottom line is that these emoji/memoji and etc are for children. The vast majority of people over, say, 35 aren’t using them to the extent that they need to be featured as major updates to the OS. No critical operation on your phone requires Memoji, emoji, stickers or any of the rest of it.
 
Or, at the very least for a good 20-30 years longer than someone 40-50 years older than them. :)

Most people experience at least some level of maturity as they age. Someone who lives at home and goes to school is going to have a lot more interest in these childish distractions than someone who, for example, has a mortgage and a car payment, who’s children need to be fed and who’s headed towards a messy divorce. You get the point, I’m sure. These are not actually iPhone features. They’re childish distractions for people with too little to think about.
 
Yes, but kids have continued to demonstrate the annoying habit of turning into adults. And they remember. And they like what they are already comfortable with. Get the kids and you could likely have a customer forever.
Yep, unfortunately it used to be that somewhere after age 20 to 25 most teens grew up. That is no longer true, most are very comfortable being teens for much longer.
 
Yep, unfortunately it used to be that somewhere after age 20 to 25 most teens grew up. That is no longer true, most are very comfortable being teens for much longer.

Right. The drive to maintain participation in youth culture far beyond one’s youth is primarily a function of media and tech marketing. If you’re not in that 18-24 age group they don’t really know you exist.
 
Sooo much pathetic whining about emoji. I don't like or use them, but just stop already.

As has been explained here at MR many times, Apple updates emoji as required by Unicode. They don't wake up in the morning and say to themselves "gee, what new icons can we foist on our users?". They do what all the other vendors supporting Unicode do. See the Unicode Emoji page.
 
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BTW for everyone hating on this, you missed the hilariously obvious...

The T-rex only put one leg in his tutu!
 
Ridiculous that it doesn’t even support the iPhone 14 Pros!
Not ridiculous, and totally unsurprising.

Everyone who thinks technology is just another word for magic is ready to blame Apple for trying to force people into upgrading. Those who understand AI even a little bit know that good models take up a LOT of RAM. Only phones with enough RAM... like the iPhone 15 Pro... are going to manage to run those models in a reasonable amount of time.

I have no doubt that *some* of their AI code could run on phones with less RAM, like the 15 or 14 Pro. But it's more important to them that the user experience be generally good, so their brand isn't damaged. Some of us may find that annoying, but that's a legitimate decision for them to make.

iPhones have no swap. Running out of RAM isn't trivial.
 
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