Yes, I agree regulations are necessary to protect society. But we’re not discussing products that don’t do what they claim.
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If you believe life will stop without an iPhone, you have a big misconception about society.
You do realize we carry this conversation over the internet? Whether you're on a laptop or smartphone, your ability to execute your right to free speech depends on computer technology. Now what if I'm on iMessage and you're on WhatsApp? We couldn't talk anymore, because market forces alone didn't make Apple to comply to the common RCS standard. It's the EU who makes sure that you can always tell me: "you don't need no government", regardless of on which mobileOS you are.
Yes, in 2023 mankind has made many technological advances. That we as a society depend on. But that’s motherhood and apple pie.
That’s capitalism and vote with your $$$.
Yes, overregulation and overreach.
No, it's not. Regardless of whether you bought an iPhone or an Android, you couldn't chat with people on the other platform out of the box. The only texting standard incorporated by all phone makers was SMS/MMS. Google was helpless and could only shame Apple for not adopting RCS. Nothing Phone could only hack together an insecure iMessage-compatible app, which requires you to share your iCloud password with a third company. Nobody but the government could demand messaging interoperability between competing platforms.
But I thought you were against regulations by the government:
Ok, we disagree - all is good. Neither is going to change each others mind in this debate of subjectivity. Now laws are laws and some are good and some bad and done get overturned.
Neither is the cell phone market.
That’s a gross mischaracterization of what I posted.
There’s nothing subjective about the gun violence and opioid death numbers in the US. Your idea of societal self-regulation without government intervention obviously doesn’t work. Ignoring the objective facts doesn’t change that I’m right and you’re wrong.
This is called in internet speak moving the goalposts.
Yes. Purposeful mischaracterization of prior posts. Thankfully taking objective facts into consideration only substantiates you are incorrect.
You made it quite clear that you're very worried about any form of government regulation and want corporations to do what they want and customers to vote with their wallet. Ignoring the problems of this approach, after they've been pointed out to you multiple times, won't make you win the argument.
And you made it quite clear that you’re very worried about the lack of deep regulations for companies and that regulations for companies app stores should be just as strict as regulations form air, food and water.
There is no argument to be won here, only discussion of nuances until the cows come home.
Because the state has a history of opressing its people with over-regulation and ruining the market with over-regulation. Regulation to "improve" a companies product lessens the creation of more competition. Less state intervention is not equal to complete anarchy.
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Yes it is. Did you learn nothing from colonialism? Slavery doesn't ring a bell?
No! 😁 That was a self-governing trading company bound by no laws or morals.
The Virginia Company was founded by James I in 1606 and Virginia was turned into a royal colony in 1624. However, none of that would prove why less government = no government anyway.
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To govern is to make rules and to enforce them. You object to the very idea of limiting companies choices to do whatever they want by setting up government regulations, like you can’t hold slaves and child labor is forbidden too. Which is something corporations would absolutely do and did in the past until governments stopped them, if necessary with a war. So it’s ultimately the military, which stands for the rule of law and against total anarchy's. By definition anarchy is a state of disorder due to absence or non-recognition of authority or other controlling systems. There is no order without an authority enforcing the rules.
I do think a government should exist. I think the state should serve to protect the right to life, liberty, and property. If anything, including a company violates the rights of a person, it should be dealt with.
All we are talking about here is a government regulating iOS, having a walled garden does not violate anyones rights. If someone does not like what Apple does, they are free to not buy from them.
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The cell phone market isn’t. The smartphone market which comprises hundreds of vendors uses android overwhelmingly making the iPhone a minority player.
Phantom of choice and unfortunately the biggest attacking point by every staunch supporter of anti-sideloading propaganda.