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mcarnes

macrumors 68000
Mar 14, 2004
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USA! USA!
I do think the Mac has not seen enough pro development. Enough with iWeb, etc, etc. But I guess consumers are their primary market.

I use a lot of macs in my business, and would like to see more with ARD and stuff. And Aperture, come on Apple, pour some resources into this.

But I still love 'em as a company and despite my griping, my business would be lost without macs.
 

desenso

macrumors 6502a
May 25, 2005
797
1
While I absolutely LOVE my iPhone, it has really limped in a huge crowd of whiney people that I don't really like to be associated with.

I don't think Apple is doing anything wrong, but the brand is becoming more popular and, as a result, losing some of its panache.

If anything, these forums are going rotten...
 

SiliconAddict

macrumors 603
Jun 19, 2003
5,889
0
Chicago, IL
No apple is getting better, why would they get badder?? the profits are increasing and so arethe amounts of the sales..

And now does this benefit the end user?

I associate Apple products with innovation and aesthetics. More funding; fantastic! I imagine their record stock will not hinder Macbook Touch production.

Apple hasn't been innovative since the mid 90's. All Apple is doing is taking an idea that is already out there, making it easier to use in a pretty package. This has its merits but it ain't innovation. Heck half the tech in OS X is from the open source community. All the hardware in the iPod is off the shelf parts. Etc. Now look at what Apple put out in the 90's. Yes Apple wasn't doing too well but at least they tried something new here and there. I mean if Apple wants to impress me how about they do something revolutionary with printers? How about bringing back the QuickTake? The Newton for god sake is the predecessor of today's UMPC.
And don't even get me started on OS X. An OS 7 years old with mostly cosmetic changes to its UI. You want to know what Apple is? They have turned into the play it safe company.
If Apple want to renew their faith as an innovative company how abut doing something new with their laptops damn it. I mean how about an integrated fingerprint scanner in the touchpad that doesn't look like a typical FPC? Or how about a hard drive / SSD combo. And I'm not talking those hybrid drives with 512MB of RAM. But a 32GB (Or less) built in drive that is directly tied to the PCI Express bus along side the SATA hard drive. Use that to store the OS. Which in turn would not only cause the HD to spin up less but free up the standard HD to to other things. I want the Apple of old back that actually made innovative hardware. Not just slightly better hardware then the competition.
 

SXR

macrumors 6502a
Nov 20, 2007
995
7
Netherlands
I'm going to say yes, Apple is going rotten. ilounge forgot to mention that damn recessed iphone jack. :mad:

Yes I think that is weird. But they also did the exclusive AT&T deal to provide features like Visual Voicemail and maybe others in the future.
 

eric55lv

Guest
Aug 5, 2007
801
1
Las Vegas,NV
Apple is turning back like how it was in the 90s too many products Newton in the 90s iPhone today Apple TV today Macintosh in the 90s
 

synth3tik

macrumors 68040
Oct 11, 2006
3,951
2
Minneapolis, MN
Apple IS going down on quality. YES ! and their support stinks !
I,ve gone through two wireless keyboards in less than 12 month, 2 wireless laser mice.
The screen IS showing lines across the monitor and i've been calibrating it with GretagMacBeth tools.
I've purchased the Applecare extension within the first 12 month and Apple has lost my details... they say my iMac24 is out of warranty !
Yes i'm MAD at MAC as i am the first to evangelise Apple, and persuade my family and friends to drop windows and go for Mac.
I'm MAD at MAC for letting down too many people, tow many really talented developers that still produce outstanding software... but Mr Job has sold his soul, in the name of GREED !
because that's the problem, essentially.

Your mad at Mac hu? I though this was a thread about Apple. What the hell is this Mac company you speak so poorly of?
 

laurentsj

macrumors newbie
Nov 26, 2007
7
0
There are two types of angry people...

Those who actually care, and those who don't.

I STILL praise Apple and encourage people to switch to Mac whenever i can.

When you love a company, it's product, and community behind it, you want to defend it, and be proud of it.


IMHO, Apple has gone from producing quality durable goods, with innovative UI, and rock stable hardware and software, to now selling HYPE, Volume and consumables.


I LOVE Apple design, but i don't pay a premium on Apple products because of their design and hype, but because of the [perceived?] superior quality of the hardware and software.





Your mad at Mac hu? I though this was a thread about Apple. What the hell is this Mac company you speak so poorly of?
 

zap2

macrumors 604
Mar 8, 2005
7,252
8
Washington D.C
Apple hasn't been innovative since the mid 90's.

Wrong

All Apple is doing is taking an idea that is already out there, making it easier to use in a pretty package.
They do that sometimes, but they are still innovative


All the hardware in the iPod is off the shelf parts.
Yea, now Apple's 7 year old music player isn't innovative, but in 2001, a 5GB, size of a deck of cards, music player was HUGE. Clearly Apple nailed it, and started a market out of it. If you think Apple's move with the iPod wasn't innovative because someone else had had digital music players out, you're wrong.



An OS 7 years old with mostly cosmetic changes to its UI. t

Did you use Mac OS 10.0? I started with 10.3 as my main OS, and even that is worlds behind 10.5....but 10.0(I've played with it) is nothing like 10.5...to say that only differences is cosmetic would be STUPID


I mean how about an integrated fingerprint scanner in the touchpad that doesn't look like a typical FPC? Or how about a hard drive / SSD combo.

Those are all done already...maybe you want them perfected, which is fine, but don't ask for innovation, then tell them you want improvment on things which already exist.



I want the Apple of old back that actually made innovative hardware.
Look at the MacBook Air, iPod touch(recent) iPod(back in 2001) iPhone, iPod Nano(when it came out), Mac Mini(again when it came out, huge step for tiny computer everywhere)

Apple can't keep reinventing the wheel each time, but they do it a lot. And when you say improvement on exist things don't count, then nothing is innovative because you're always builting on something.

But the way Apple does things, is still innovative. The idea of setting your phone up through a media program? A buttonless phone? Come one
 
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