I think what we have here is essentially, a list of computer first, as long as you interpret the phrase 'personal computer' so as to ensure Apple comes first in each one, despite not really being the first.
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Apple Industry FIRSTS List!
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Wikipedia confirms, and it confirms my memory that Excel debuted on the Mac before the Windows version hit.
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Yes, I know that it was out first on the Macintosh. The "Seriously?" was more of a "Who cares" than a "Is this actually true"
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first macbook
first macbook pro
first macbook air
first mac mini
first imac
first emac
first ipod
first mobileme
first powerbook
first ibook
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My friend you may not agree with what's said here, but you really need to lighten up a bit.
...and b the w, you apparently do care or you wouldn't be following this thread and posting every time you perceive an error.
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PowerBook 100 (1991) - First laptop to move the keyboard up to the bottom of the screen (the way we have them now)
PowerBook 500 (1993) - First trackpad.
Source: MobilePC Magazine, 04/2005
- First cell phone with cut/copy/paste (iPhone)
Pretty sure sarcastic, but just in case
Even my Krzr copies and pastes.
Forget the rest of the list.
Once a single fact was disproved, the rest of the list became questionable, and rather unbelievable.
Once a single fact was disproved, the rest of the list became questionable, and rather unbelievable.
Right, the problem is there isn't just one mistake. Just scanning the list and I see numerous items that can be argued over depending on definition, and still others that are just outright wrong.
I'll give you that, despite the fact that you refuse to do simple things like add dates or even make your case for certain items on your list that people have disputed. IMO if you start something like this and only expect people to agree and contribute their own knowledge, that's just being naive. If you really wanted to make an accurate list you'd actually listen to the community- that has "more knowledge and experience on the subject"- and start backing up your claims.
...you don't. Add dates. Without dates or model numbers as a point of reference, it's actually pretty hard to dispute your claims. But hey, that's probably what you're trying to do anyways.
That's great. Regardless of whether or not this is true, it doesn't matter. If you make an argument you have to be accountable for it.
In another thread a couple people got a list going that I expanded a bit and I thought it was fun
Please help me add everything you can think of to this and edit any false claims.
Thanks, and have fun... GO APPLE!
-The first personal computer with a graphic interface: (Mac)
-The first personal computer to use a mouse: (Mac)
-The first personal computer with an application you could install: (Mac)
-The first personal computer with a program you coud buy separately and install with a disc: (Mac)
-The first personal computer with SCSI: (Mac)
-The first personal computer to offer, off the box, a complete computer, with sound card, integrated speaker, independent video card, ethernet, etc.: (Mac)
-The first personal computer to use CD: (Mac)
-The first personal computer to have actualy used USB as it is: a universal serial bus: (Mac)
-The first computer to use firewire: (Mac)
-The first personal computer to have a DVD recorder: (Mac)
-The first personal computer with a bunch of apps to work like something you could use at home for all the common activities (iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie, Garageband,etc.): (Mac)
-The first personal computer to integrate an application with such thing as the iTunes Music Store: (Mac)
-The first computer to have a total integration with an app and the mp3 player (iPod): (Mac)
-The same with a cell phone (iPhone): (Mac)
-First laptop to have button-less trackpad: (MAC)
-First laptop with a Multi-Touch track pad! (MAC)
-First personal computer with a graphical word processing program! (MAC)
-First personal computer with Microsoft Office! (MAC)
-First personal computer with Fonts! (MAC)
-First personal computer with built in web cam! (MAC)
ADD ON!!!
Most of Microsoft Office was originally on IBM/Windows. The only part of it that was on the Mac platform first was PowerPoint. I don't think it was the first computer to have a dedicated graphics card; you might want to verify that.
Also, you could mention that IBM clones never implemented 6-pin or 9-pin FireWire 800. Though, I might be wrong about that.
It really can't be counted if it wasn't sold commercially. I have several items I made prior to them coming out in stores but the date they'll be established at is the commercially sold date. Face it, it doesn't more our civilization forward if the only person who benefits is the person who made it or his close friend.
Also, a GUI shouldn't require any command prompt commands to function. That pretty much wrecks the reason for having a GUI.
There are 6 Trillion people on Earth. The number of people who own computers today is in the double digit billions. Several thousand people is an insignificant number.
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The first software written for the Apple was Word, by Bill Gates. I thought Word was part of Office.
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I think the point he is trying to make is that he put the list up for others to help make the changes. You aren't helping by ordering him to make changes. Do the work yourself if you want it changed. You've got fingers go google the dates for these things yourself if you want dates.
There's a crucial line to be drawn in simple feature firsts and then actual first that reinvent or create an industry, or redefine the way people communicate.
- The first laser printer - that is huge.
- The first commercially viable laptop, with the current layout of keyboard-at-screen.
- The iPhone - say what you like, blah blah blah, the iPhone was momentous. Breaking free from carrier strongholds and bringing full-screen video and media to mobile devices cannot be underestimated.
- The way Apple introduced desktop publishing and typefaces, to me that's beyond huge.
These are fundamental ways that humans communicate and share information. Apple really has been the modern-day Gutenberg with the changes they've brought to communication. Brin & Page, Musk, Bezos, even by some standards Gates...not even close.
That said, OP's list has some holes in it, at the very least from the Historical Impact/Is This Really Important? perspective.
- The first laser printer - that is huge.
- The first commercially viable laptop, with the current layout of keyboard-at-screen.
- The iPhone - say what you like, blah blah blah, the iPhone was momentous. Breaking free from carrier strongholds and bringing full-screen video and media to mobile devices cannot be underestimated.
- The way Apple introduced desktop publishing and typefaces, to me that's beyond huge.
These are fundamental ways that humans communicate and share information. Apple really has been the modern-day Gutenberg with the changes they've brought to communication. Brin & Page, Musk, Bezos, even by some standards Gates...not even close.
That said, OP's list has some holes in it, at the very least from the Historical Impact/Is This Really Important? perspective.
This is a work in process...
Words added are in italics.
Personal computer is defined as a commercially successful personal computer
-The first personal computer with an exclusively graphic interface: (Mac)
* no command line
* used bit oriented graphics
* it's progenitors--Alto:was not available on the market, IBM5100: had no viable screen.
-The first personal computer to use a mouse: (Mac)* used bit oriented graphics
* it's progenitors--Alto:was not available on the market, IBM5100: had no viable screen.
-The first personal computer with an application you could install to a hard drive: (Mac)
-The first personal computer with SCSI: (Mac)
-The first personal computer to offer, out of the box, a complete computer, plug-in ready: (Mac)
-The first personal computer to use CDs: (Mac)
-The first personal computer to have actually used USB as it is: a universal serial bus: (Mac)
* http://www.allusb.com/usb-history
* In 1998, the iMac G3 was the first consumer computer to discontinue legacy ports (serial and parallel) in favor of USB.
-The first computer to use firewire: (Mac)* In 1998, the iMac G3 was the first consumer computer to discontinue legacy ports (serial and parallel) in favor of USB.
-The first personal computer to have a DVD recorder: (Mac)
-The first personal computer with a bunch of apps to work like something you could use at home for all the common activities (iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie, Garageband,etc.): (Mac)
-The first personal computer to integrate an application with such thing as the iTunes Music Store: (Mac)
-The first computer to have a total integration with an app and the mp3 player (iPod/Mac)
-The same with a cell phone (iPhone/Mac)
-First laptop to have buttonless track pad: (MAC)
-First laptop to have buttonless mouse: (MAC)
-First laptop with a Multi-Touch track pad: (MAC)
-First personal computer with a graphical word processing program: (MAC)
* this is a wp program that shows italics/bold/etc.
* it could integrate graphics within the text
-First personal computer with Microsoft Excel, & Powerpoint. (MAC)* it could integrate graphics within the text
*September 30, 1985 - Excel
*April 20, 1987 - Powerpoint
-First personal computer with bitmap Fonts. (MAC)*April 20, 1987 - Powerpoint
-First personal computer with built in web cam! (MAC)
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Unless you're only quoting from one single post, you should really cite the different user names you're quoting from.
You're quoting in post #8 from different posters without specifically acknowledging that, giving a false impression.
It's only fair to the posters you're replying to.
Do you feel better now? Dredging up an eight your old post to correct a simple quotation error.
My mistake for not noticing it was a bumped post. But you had to actually quote both posters and then remove their usernames to quote namelessly so not sure how that was a simple error. Either way I've noticed one or two other posters doing that too, and to have someone else's quote (who you might not necessarily agree with) attributed to you, is irksome.Do you feel better now? Dredging up an eight your old post to correct a simple quotation error.
Sorry I spoiled your day, I would not have replied if I had noticed it was an old post. I've had this misquoting happen to me also, and wanted to get that off my chest. Apologies, have a great day!!
Yeah, Word is part of Office. I was just saying that Powerpoint was the first part of Office which was available for the Mac.