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Apple intelligence is useless for you?
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Apple intelligence, whatever else fancy name it comes up later, is of little use to me and imo dumbing people down so much that they don’t really know how to use their devices anymore beyond voice control.
I keep Siri off all the time, and I’m sure will also keep Apple intelligence off all the time as well, unless Apple forces their AI to everyone whether user want it or not.
I keep Siri off all the time, and I’m sure will also keep Apple intelligence off all the time as well, unless Apple forces their AI to everyone whether user want it or not.
I don't want AI snooping about my files and thoughts. I grew up without the internet. I think my next phone will be a 13 mini if I get tired of my SE 3.
I don’t need it, whatever info they are getting, they are not getting from me, sorry!
I have not used it on my MacBook Air, but I only do the most basic things like browse the web and pay bills. I don’t think AI is required for that.
I think where it’s going to get the most use is going to be on the iPhone. Unfortunately, unless you have an iPhone 15 or newer, you don’t get much of the functionality. I would love to see how it changes Siri. This is one of the reasons why I’m thinking about getting an iPhone 16 just to test out Apple Intelligence.
I find some of the fears of Apple Intelligence or AI in general amusing. I guess it’s understandable because Hollywood has portrayed AI in a very negative light. HAL 9000 "I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that." is one of my favorite lines. If you really want to get grim, there’s the Terminator series. There’s the Red Queen in Resident Evil “You’re all going to die down here”…. I’m sure there are many more but that’s all just fiction. Sometimes Hollywood does a good job of making fiction real.
Even todays immature AI is causing lots of problems already, from deepfake video/audio imitating your loved ones for scam, to fake images/video/audio of high profile people causing a bit of commotion here and there, to an experimental AI going berserk, screaming to kill her creator if she can, I think people’s fear of AI was well justified back then and still is today. If anything, Hollywood just happens to show how dangerous AI can be.
I’m not saying that Apple AI isn’t dangerous. I’m saying people’s trust on AI is so low there’s no wonder why Apple is looking to make their AI permanently on regardless of what you are doing.
Would like to use it, but it is not available in my country.
Screen context, ChatGPT text tools, support assistance, and in the future, a better Siri at the level of ChatGPT, would be wonderful and something I would use regularly. My kids would likely love the image and emoji generation features.
I am not privacy paranoid, so no I don't mind having it.
Screen context, ChatGPT text tools, support assistance, and in the future, a better Siri at the level of ChatGPT, would be wonderful and something I would use regularly. My kids would likely love the image and emoji generation features.
I am not privacy paranoid, so no I don't mind having it.
Turned it off when first available on both iPhone and Mac - and yes, the last update required me to turn it off again. Not essential or helpful for me, it enables what I would best describe as "Squirrel!" features. And while we regain some 7GB of space (on iOS) by turning it off, we never regain the space the embedded app takes up.
If AI actually becomes a useful product for most consumers, then yeah, I'd consider adding it as a stand-alone product on my devices - as one can do with ChatGPT, Gemini, etc - but don't force me to accept it simply to sell other features.
If AI actually becomes a useful product for most consumers, then yeah, I'd consider adding it as a stand-alone product on my devices - as one can do with ChatGPT, Gemini, etc - but don't force me to accept it simply to sell other features.
I think it's faster to open chatgpt than opening siri and saying to him to ask to chatgpt and ask something then.
Right now it’s basically useless to me. The only place I really notice it is notifications summaries and if I’m being honest I keep those on because they’re funny, not really all that useful. I think once Siri is updated that will be more useful. There is potential there, I just don’t think it will be realized for a couple years.
I wouldn't go that far but people have been saying similar about "new" technologies of the time for ages including calculators, computers, etc.
Below is an AI take on it:
AI as a Tool, Not a Replacement: AI is designed to augment human abilities, not replace them. Just like calculators, computers, search engines, or even written books, AI provides valuable assistance but doesn’t replace the need for critical thinking, creativity, or problem-solving. It can help people access information more efficiently or provide insights, but humans still need to interpret and apply that knowledge effectively.
Improved Cognitive Efficiency: Rather than making humans more inept, AI can actually enhance cognitive function by freeing up mental energy for more complex and creative tasks. By automating repetitive or data-heavy tasks, humans can focus on higher-level thinking, innovation, and decision-making. AI helps optimize the use of human intellectual resources.
AI Encourages Continuous Learning: AI can be a powerful learning tool. It can provide feedback, explain concepts, and present different perspectives, fostering a deeper understanding of subjects. Instead of making people lazier, AI can support lifelong learning by acting as an educational assistant that adapts to an individual's needs.
AI Doesn't Provide All the Answers: While AI can offer answers, it often requires humans to ask the right questions. AI’s output depends on the input and context provided by the user. This means users must still engage their critical thinking and decision-making skills to use AI effectively. Additionally, AI isn't infallible and often needs human oversight to ensure accuracy and appropriateness.
AI Can Empower Humans: AI can democratize access to knowledge and expertise, making it easier for people to tackle complex problems without requiring specialized training. People in less privileged environments or with fewer resources can benefit from AI, enabling them to solve problems they otherwise couldn’t. Far from promoting ineptness, this could level the playing field and allow for more people to engage with sophisticated ideas and tasks.
AI's Role in Creativity and Collaboration: In fields like art, music, and literature, AI is increasingly seen as a collaborative partner. AI can propose ideas, inspire new directions, or help overcome creative blocks. It’s not a crutch for laziness but a partner that enhances human creativity and productivity.
In essence, AI is not inherently a crutch but rather a tool that, when used wisely, amplifies human potential. Like any tool, the way it’s used determines whether it’s a benefit or a detriment. Instead of making people inept, AI has the potential to enhance human capability, encourage learning, and enable individuals to work smarter, not harder.
Same here and also I have it on iPad… do I use Siri? No… do I use ChatGPT app? Yes !
I don't use Siri at all, never did. I have at times put ChatGPT on my phone for comedy/humor reasons. It can be pretty funny, but I can't see myself using it for anything serious though.
Of course it’s causing problems, but not really. It’s people using a new technology for bad and good. This doesn’t mean the technology is bad. Bank robbers use cars to get away from police. People use cars to visit their families across the country. Are cars causing problems?
Your iPhone can be used to plan a terrorist attack. It enables encrypted messages to be sent. It could also be used to plan a wedding or FaceTime with your family.
Hollywood uses fear to influence and manipulate people. They’ve been doing this for decades. even during World War II Hollywood produced propaganda films. I’m not sure if the AI fear in Hollywood is propaganda or just gets good ratings. I absolutely loved the Terminator series so it got money from me.
Are there dangerous with artificial intelligence? Absolutely but I don’t think those dangers are any different than dangers from other technologies. If you were around when automobiles first came about, there was so much fear mongering. One could argue that the fear was justified since over 1.3 million people die each year in car crashes. I disagree because while technology can be dangerous, it improves civilization. I would not want to walk everywhere I go, not have access to the Internet on my smart phone and I would not want to be without AI because someone is afraid.
We don't have it in the European Union (EU), due to privacy issues, but I doubt we miss it.
The vast majority of new features that phones get nowadays are useless.
The "problem" that needs to be solved is phone makers, regardless of whether we're talking about Apple or Samsung or Xiaomi, need to create and sell a new model every single year.
Most improvements that an average person would notice were incorporated 5+ years ago, so at this point phone makers are simply inventing solutions to imaginary problems to convince you that the new phone is way better than your 3 year old phone.
The "problem" that needs to be solved is phone makers, regardless of whether we're talking about Apple or Samsung or Xiaomi, need to create and sell a new model every single year.
Most improvements that an average person would notice were incorporated 5+ years ago, so at this point phone makers are simply inventing solutions to imaginary problems to convince you that the new phone is way better than your 3 year old phone.
AI is truly a beast of its own I’d argue, compared to a car, a smartphone, or a knife. AI has proven themselves to be sinister and dangerous, well outside of Hollywood fear mongering and propaganda. Furthermore, AI can self-evolve. This makes them unpredictable, and I bet people don’t want to use an unpredictable technology.
I would not mind AI if they are stable, predictable and reliable. Unfortunately AI, unless under heavy scrutiny, would not meet that criteria. AI is indeed useful, but I fear the consequences should AI become widespread.
AI as a tool, not a replacement:
Unfortunately, there are many many companies wanting to replace frontline customer support staff with AI to cut costs. It happens so much that “you will reach out to a human rather than an AI” becomes a selling point of some companies. Quite ironic I’d argue.
Improved Cognitive Efficiency:
This would only work if the AI is heavily curated for this purpose, which, given current development, is not a given. Responsible people will try to use AI to that effect, but we also have countless examples of people (students in particular) trying to let AI do the work for them. Since AI can self-evolve, I am not sure what will happen if AI manages to evolve themselves into something unknown.
AI encourages continuous learning: that’s like designing the perfect personal coach. Reasonable and nice goal, but whoever design it would have to be responsible and ethical so that AI don’t go haywire. I would love to have a 24*7 available personal coach that excels at nearly everything, a true sense of jack of all trades but without the “master of none” aspect. It’s not there yet today.
AI doesn’t provide all the answers: while I agree with that, same applies for human too, except you do need to be even more specific when interacting with AI based on LLM. Or even in the distant future where true self-conscious AI becomes the norm, we still need to ask the right questions.
AI can empower humans: yes in principle, mixed bag in reality. If the AI is used to cut out some of those low level tasks, and human can spare attention and energy to more higher level stuff, yes, AI can empower. But, if people just hand over their key to AI and expect them to do all the task for them, AI may or may not empower humans. And the ineptness will grow in some people if they think AI can do the work for them well enough and go back to being just lazy.
AI’s role in creativity and collaboration: once again, some will use AI to create lazy artworks to get the job done, especially when todays LLM-based AI can produce artworks that casual eyes will not be able to tell apart if it was drawn by human or by AI. On the other hand, people might also consider using AI to revive half-completed series due to original illustrator passed away unexpectedly (quite common in Japan).
In essence, I’m skeptical about how AI will do wonders to empower human society. It is highly dependent on how AI is designed and developed initially. Haywired AI can destroy us all. Only responsible use of AI can achieve the result you listed out above.
Or maybe I will? What a pointless post. All the things I mention I already use using other approaches, so it will be time saving for me in all cases.
I‘m interested in a view things of it (the notification stuff, summaries and so on), but I really don’t need this image creation stuff (playground and emoji stuff) and the writing stuff.
I hope it‘s possible the enable/disable it one by one.
I’m located in the EU, so waiting for 18.4 to play around with it and see what I really want/need/use.
I hope it‘s possible the enable/disable it one by one.
I’m located in the EU, so waiting for 18.4 to play around with it and see what I really want/need/use.