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Uhh.. I am not wrong. It’s in their earnings reports and stuff. They do not run iCloud in AWS. That is old and wrong data.

Apple has been doing Cloud stuff forever. Do you know what CloudKit is? Every app dev gets 1 PB of storage for free, 200 TB of CDN (they run their own CDN too), 10 TB of database, logging, monitoring, container management, etc.



There is absolutely no Azure. GCP is a small secondary storage footprint to AWS S3. All the compute is Apple owned data centers and the lions share of storage is on-prem. Apple is too big for AWS. They are almost the size of AWS themselves.


Apple owns 17.x.x.x because the data center footprint is so big. They maintain their own backbone, peering, etc.


The clouds serve as a capacity backstop, play to run GPU jobs, etc.. Things that are hourly workloads and fill gaps. The bulk of persistent workloads is on-prem. They have in excess of 10 million square feet of data center space and over a million bare metal servers.




And that 2019 article is so far off base it’s silly, that relationship between AWS and Apple is billions, not millions. Apple has been building data centers for over 10 years and has been the largest storage customer of NetApp, Dell, etc many times.

I think this is an example of where both of us is right. Here is another source (which is newer than some of your sources). And that article also says that this was a multiyear contract they have with AWS. However, this article also confirms how it is investing in its own data centers too.


Here is another article that also talks about this deal. From 2021.


Here is an article about that talks about Apple spending $300 million on Google Cloud in 2021.


And this makes sense. It’s smart business not to rely on one data center if you can afford it - and Apple can. Clearly, Apple doesn’t talk about what part of its cloud infrastructure is on its own servers and what’s on 3rd party, but it’s clear they are doing both.
 
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And thus, an incentive to buy a new device is born. I kept my last iPhone before 15 Pro for 5 years before I bought another one, because there wasn't any new feature or spec that warranted me spending the money. Apple is betting that on-device AI is worth buying a new phone.
Yep, exactly. I had to seriously debate if I wanted to get my daughter a 15 Pro for her birthday instead of a 14 (to replace her 8, which now only holds a charge for a few minutes). It took me a few days, as I'd hate to see her miss out on such a big features, but at the same time buying a 9 year old a Pro phone for over $1,000 just feels wrong. Then you factor in the more expensive AppleCare, the cases are probably a little more, the screen protectors can be a little more....Eventually, I said screw it, she doesn't need all the AI, and I'm sure it will take Apple a year or 2 to get all the bugs out, so I went 14.

I expect all new models later this year will support it too, so anyone who wants AI will feel the urge to upgrade.
 
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Yep, exactly. I had to seriously debate if I wanted to get my daughter a 15 Pro for her birthday instead of a 14 (to replace her 8, which now only holds a charge for a few minutes). It took me a few days, as I'd hate to see her miss out on such a big features, but at the same time buying a 9 year old a Pro phone for over $1,000 just feels wrong. Then you factor in the more expensive AppleCare, the cases are probably a little more, the screen protectors can be a little more....Eventually, I said screw it, she doesn't need all the AI, and I'm sure it will take Apple a year or 2 to get all the bugs out, so I went 14.

I expect all new models later this year will support it too, so anyone who wants AI will feel the urge to upgrade.
i bet only the iphone16 pro an pro max will support it... it'll be apples cash grab to make you get the pro series more $$
 
Some cool use cases, can’t help but notice that for few of them it still feels longer to tell or type what you want it to do than actually doing it yourself.

We’ll see how this works when people start using it. And we’ll see how reliable this is, as AI is known to be…quirky, lol

I mostly want it for the image editing.
 
Apple has always done that, shouldn't be suprising to anyone.
In other words, "it's your own fault and you deserve what you got because you're not smart enough NOT to wear that short skirt." Got it. 👍
 
I do not care however many assurances Apple will give me, I do not want an AI model with access to my personal information going into Apple’s cloud to ask questions. And that’s final.

Can I disable this? If no, I will refuse to update. Should they do so against my wishes regardless, I will sell my devices. If I can.
Am SO with you.

SOMEWHERE along the line there's 100% GONNA be a HUGE and IRRETRIEVABLE "OOPS".

GUAR-AN-TEED.

A big NO THANK YOU to the entire mess. 🙅‍♂️
 
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If Apple Intelligence/AI can understand and make use of everything on device, do you think Apple will spend the time and effort to build this into Apple Notes (like Google's NotebookLM) to help people make sense of, combine and better use their notes collection?
 
If Apple Intelligence/AI can understand and make use of everything on device, do you think Apple will spend the time and effort to build this into Apple Notes (like Google's NotebookLM) to help people make sense of, combine and better use their notes collection?
I think they said AI works in any app, so I would say yes! But… we’ll find out how useful.
 
In other words, "it's your own fault and you deserve what you got because you're not smart enough NOT to wear that short skirt." Got it. 👍
Software and hardware is and always was tit for tat. They would be pretty darn stoopid to let old hardware already sold prevent them from taking the optimal advantage of new software technology. And YES, Apple always did that, and if having been around Apple products for a while, someone hasnt realised that..... If you don´t want to live with that, there´s always other options.

If Blender or Davinci stayed useable on my spare machine they would have ceased to exist.
 
i bet only the iphone16 pro an pro max will support it... it'll be apples cash grab to make you get the pro series more $$
Wonderful, no need to worry then, as I'll keep my mini as long as possible anyway.
Using chatGPT otherwise is possible outside Apple's garden anyway.

Otherwise I'm more interested how Apple will build it into macOS, and if it's possible to use it without Siri, as I've deactivated that 'un-service' on all my devices and it will stay that way.
 
You must have juicy secrets. All my private info is too mundane to worry about. I'll trust Apple to do it right. We'll see how it goes with those who have it. My iPhone doesn't qualify anyway.
Wanting privacy must be because you have juicy secrets?

What a brickhead thing to say. No, my secrets aren’t particularly juicy, but they are secrets all the same. You have secrets you don’t want out as well, even if it’s nothing more than preventing yourself from getting doxxed.
 
Is AI really a selling point for the next iPhone or iPad though to average people? In reality I don’t think it’s high up the list over hardware enhancements like cameras. I’m planning on getting the next iPhone but AI isn’t even being factored in to be truthfully honest.
 
Am SO with you.

SOMEWHERE along the line there's 100% GONNA be a HUGE and IRRETRIEVABLE "OOPS".

GUAR-AN-TEED.

A big NO THANK YOU to the entire mess. 🙅‍♂️

Oh no! Russian hackers stole my...calendar appointments? What will I do now that they know I'm taking my car in for service on Wednesday! /s
 
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