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Apple Introduces 160GB Apple TV for $399

williedigital said:
Yeah I guess you are right, it does pause for about 5-10 seconds before the file starts playing and then plays the whole file through perfectly without skipping, etc. I guess my point is that it doesn't have the "play 30 seconds, pause, buffer, play 30 seconds, pause, buffer" effect going on at all.
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That's streaming over your local network. How about streamin over the 'net, unless you have a 54mbps link to the outside world?

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balamw said:
Say, if Apple Inc were to start a rental/subscription service or partner with AT&T for IPTV?

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/308917/

Essentially, now you are buffering content on your computers that run iTunes and serve content to the :apple:TV.

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Yeah I guess if they did that it would be a problem. The point of the discussion though was the usefulness of the 160gb hd version of the apple tv. I don't understand why anyone would buy that version rather than just streaming the content from their mac, since streaming is absolutely seamless. A previous poster had claimed the 160gb upgrade was to fit HD video on the device since it couldn't be streamed properly even across an "n" network.
 
williedigital said:
Yeah I guess if they did that it would be a problem. The point of the discussion though was the usefulness of the 160gb hd version of the apple tv. I don't understand why anyone would buy that version rather than just streaming the content from their mac, since streaming is absolutely seamless. A previous poster had claimed the 160gb upgrade was to fit HD video on the device since it couldn't be streamed properly even across an "n" network.
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I kind of doubt that. I forget how fast Blu Ray is, but I'm thinking it's a few MB/s (I seem to be remembering 5MB/s)? And what Apple eventually sells will be at a lower bit rate, so even easier to stream.
 
williedigital said:
Yeah I guess if they did that it would be a problem. The point of the discussion though was the usefulness of the 160gb hd version of the apple tv. I don't understand why anyone would buy that version rather than just streaming the content from their mac, since streaming is absolutely seamless. A previous poster had claimed the 160gb upgrade was to fit HD video on the device since it couldn't be streamed properly even across an "n" network.
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No. The point was raised that no hard disk was required at all. Assuming that :apple:TV buffers to hard disk, I made the point that even for an n network, HD content would require buffering. Blu Ray runs at 40Mb/s. While this is lower than n's 130Mb/s, I doubt that it could be acheived consistenty for a 2 hour movie. Imagine what would happen if the guy in the apartment downstairs decides to watch HIS :apple:TV at the same time as you are? :eek:

A buffer will always be needed. How much is for Apple to decide.
 
Being able to sync music via AirTunes is key to me. Adding a lightweight interweb browser would be icing. Just enough to browse the news, weather, rumor sites, etc. Like others have mentioned, most people don't want to clutter their living rooms any more than they already have.

Apple won't add PVR functionality because PVRs are lame - they only make TV slightly less lame. On-demand content is where the future is.
 
eddyg said:
My DVD library is already at 300Gb - so streaming is the only solution. For people like me the size of the internal drive is not an issue other than for photos and buffering for the streamed video.
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Right, since 300 Gb equals 37.5 GB, the 40 GB drive should be large enough ;)

But seriously, unless you can buy content straight to this device, who cares how large the hard drive is?
 
manchild said:
Apple won't add PVR functionality because PVRs are lame - they only make TV slightly less lame.
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Uh...this statement is lame. PVRs are awesome. Best thing that's ever happened to TV, and totally change how you use it.

And I happen to think TV is quite awesome. It's free, or fairly cheap depending, and IMO is a better format than the short stories movies tell.
 
Wolfpup said:
Uh...this statement is lame. PVRs are awesome. Best thing that's ever happened to TV, and totally change how you use it.

And I happen to think TV is quite awesome. It's free, or fairly cheap depending, and IMO is a better format than the short stories movies tell.
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I still prefer a good book. :p ;) :cool:
 
Wolfpup said:
Uh...this statement is lame. PVRs are awesome. Best thing that's ever happened to TV, and totally change how you use it.
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... Which is the reason I stated that they make TV less lame. They at least give you a bit more leeway on when you watch your shows. I got rid of my TV almost 2 years ago because 99% of the programming was complete garbage and my wife was getting sucked into it. I can't believe how much time people waste watching shows like "American Idol" and "Survivor". I'm surprised there isn't a show called "Watch me Watch TV"... Please tell me there isn't. The only thing I miss is having a larger screen to watch movies. Which, unfortunately may need to be remedied. My 15" Powerbook has served us well though.

I still say on-demand is where the future is.
 
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