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Very nice features, however a landscape option for the keyboard would make this ideal. There MUST be a reason why they have not included this, maybe due to the modularity of the keyboard code (used for web, email, SMS and contacts...)

I hope a landscape keyboard is a "secret" feature or something that they eventually tell us about. It would be convenient for viewing web pages/entering new URL's in landscape mode in the browser.
 
I was wondering where the "over 200 patents" were filed for this thing.

Expanding the key size for the next common letter is genius! Truly, this is software 5 years ahead of its time!
 
A landscape keyboard is not as good as everyone thinks when you are using your one finger or two thumbs. I remember using the widescreen keyboard on Magic Cap and found it SLOWER AND MORE ERROR PRONE than smaller onscreen keyboards because your thumbs have to travel further distance across the screen. It's slow, uncomfortable and less accurate believe it or not. The only time a bigger keyboard becomes better is when you can use all your fingers to type.

Consider what it would be like to type on a regular computer keyboard that was twice is large... You'd have to move your whole palm across the keyboard every time you wanted to type a word... the same is true for a landscape touch keyboard on the iPhone. Wider does not equal better..


Very nice features, however a landscape option for the keyboard would make this ideal. There MUST be a reason why they have not included this, maybe due to the modularity of the keyboard code (used for web, email, SMS and contacts...)
 
???

http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/screenshots.html?en

It's landscape, too. Use it all the time.

I can't think of anything on the iPhone that hasn't been done before. Its genius is that many little previously known things are melded together.

I'm sorry but your example doesn't mention half the stuff that the Apple keyboard video mentioned. It doesn't mention enlarging zones predictively or correcting words predictively by what letters are juxtaposed to each other. It looks like the keyboard you've posted simply corrects words from a dictionary like everyone else.
 
Watched the keyboard video and it convinced me not to get the first generation iphone. There's no way I'll be able to use those tiny keys with my big fingers. My Blackberry is an inch wider and I have problems with its keys. And speaking of the Blackberry, it works on EDGE and page downloads are plenty fast, photos and all. I don't understand what all the criticism is about with EDGE.

I'm not sure you actually watched the video. Did you really? That was sort of the point of the whole video. That the little predictive keyboard of the iphone is more accurate than the larger physical blackberry keyboards.

Well, enjoy your blackberry that you dislike. You could of course walk into an apple store and try the keyboard, but no, it won't work for you.
 
I think they will have a "Ringtone" tutorial by tomorrow with the release of the iPhone version of iTunes.

Hmm... interesting guess. I hope you are right.

Beyond any of the technical aspects of the iPhone, I am really impressed by how well Apple has been able to market the iPhone. From managing the buzz level (i.e., doling out new information in a timely fashion to keep the anticipation level just right) to the educational tutorials on how to use this new device.

Other companies should take notice.
 
Yesterday, I'm glad I bought it when it was $52. :)

Still, they need to add two features right after release.

Voice dialing.

Ability to add your own ring tones.

Sometime in the future I'd like to see real iChat. For now text only when only connected to EDGE and text and voice when connected to the Internet.

AT&T also needs to follow T-Moble's lead on allowing call switch between the wireless network and the Internet. See:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=3320089&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

Talk about kicking bu.. add that and you'll see even more people moving.

Huh. Stuff i could care less about.
 
What will happen if you are web browsing in landscape mode and tap the web address field? Will it force a flip to portrait to bring up the keyboard? Weird. :confused:

Interesting question. I guess we will know for certain in about 54 hours.
 
Is it just me or...

Does anybody else find it interesting that YOU TOUCH THE SPACEBAR TO ACCEPT THE CORRECTED WORD, and you TOUCH THE SUGGESTED WORD TO BYPASS THE SUGGESTION AND STICK WITH YOUR ORIGINAL WORD? :confused:


I guess I would think if it as being the other way around.

I'm not angry, just thought is seemed Bass Ackwards.
 
Does anybody else find it interesting that YOU TOUCH THE SPACEBAR TO ACCEPT THE CORRECTED WORD, and you TOUCH THE SUGGESTED WORD TO BYPASS THE SUGGESTION AND STICK WITH YOUR ORIGINAL WORD?

As David Pogue said on his blog entry specifically about the keyboard:

"To accept its suggestion, tap the Space bar. To ignore the suggestion, just keep typing. (To get rid of the suggestion, tap it with your finger. But there’s not much point, since typing on ahead serves the same purpose.)"

http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/

Of course, this only works for words you aren't already at the end of. But taking into account all the other intelligence in the keyboard, I think the odds of wanting to stop right at a given character with the iPhone making a different suggestion are slim. Thus like David said, in general it's best to just keep typing.
 
This is the purest Darwinism at work.

You either 'level up' and apply the mental brain cycles required to learn how to work it or you 'CANT' and so you get stuck in the 20th century with little mini-klikety klack keys, steam trains and grammophone records and had better begin hoping that Nokia, Motorola, Samsung etc NEVER go the way of the touch keyboard either...cos if they do ( which they obviously will) your screwed!!!
 
True.

Not to happy to read though that as per Apple's usual battery disclaimer that the phone supports 300-400 charge cycles. For many people's use, that may be 1 - 1 1/2 yrs. How much will you have to pay Apple to change it out, assuming that the extended Applecare doesn't cover battery replacement.

Also not wild on the idea that I can't use songs or partial songs as ringtones or no voice dialing. I would think with the headphones or bluetooth headset voice dialing would be integrated.

And the question of call quality concerns me as well.

I thought about this but then wondered what the comp is for any other smartphone like a Treo or Blackberry. I think just about all of these phone's batteries start to fade after a year or so. With the iPhone battery being internal it could be a pain but so far my experience with Apple's warranty service has been really good so they are getting the benefit of the doubt from me. Then again, I will probably upgrade by that time anyways...
 
I'm not sure you actually watched the video. Did you really? That was sort of the point of the whole video. That the little predictive keyboard of the iphone is more accurate than the larger physical blackberry keyboards.

Well, enjoy your blackberry that you dislike. You could of course walk into an apple store and try the keyboard, but no, it won't work for you.

I am a heavy Blackberry user as I have one for work and for personal and IMO, if I can use the 8800 keyboard, which has NO spacing between keys, I can use the iPhone keyboard.

Everyone sweats a change in keyboard but I think we may be overstating the concern. I was guilty of it when I was using a 7250 BB and considered moving to the BB 8800. Just one of my thumbs covers half the keyboard of my 8800 but I have learned the "sliding" technique that works on the 8800 versus the "tapping" technique that works on the 7250.

I was really impressed this morning when I learned how the "zones" of the iPhone keyboard are made larger based on predicting the word you will type. In addition, there are actually gaps between the iPhone so IMO it is already a step ahead of the 8800-style keyboard.

Can't wait.
 
Does anybody else find it interesting that YOU TOUCH THE SPACEBAR TO ACCEPT THE CORRECTED WORD, and you TOUCH THE SUGGESTED WORD TO BYPASS THE SUGGESTION AND STICK WITH YOUR ORIGINAL WORD? :confused:


I guess I would think if it as being the other way around.

I'm not angry, just thought is seemed Bass Ackwards.

If the word is correct, you'd have to press the space bar anyway.

All the damn R&D spent on predictive typing -- if they'd just made the damn keyboard work in landscape it wouldn't be necessary. I'll "trust the keyboard" when it's bigger. The fact that they had this video ready for release after the reviews came out -- when they knew they'd be dinged for the keyboard -- indicates they are aware that the typing thing is a real problem. Rather than solve the problem, they've gone to extra lengths to merely explain why it's not a problem. Not the same thing. Landscape keyboard, 16 gb of flash storage and it's out-of-the-park. First version is a solid triple.
 
The nice thing about a virtual keyboard is that a landscape version is only a software update away. I have no doubt that one will be coming. (As someone else raised, I do wonder what happens in Safari when you try to type a URL in landscape orientation.)
 
My question is whether this intelligent keyboard will get in the way of typing in another language. My girlfriend speaks spanish so I'm constantly texting her in spanish. Wonder if they keyboard has the symbols áéíóúñ etc (even though I you don't *really* need to use those when texting). I supposed it would be wishful thinking if it actually had a spanish dictionary built in there that you could switch to! Or maybe set it to always use the spanish dictionary when speaking to a certain contact, and english when speaking to others.

But man, I want this phone. :x

Oh, and one thing about pressing the space bar to accept a word is that it also adds a space it seems. What if it's the last word of the sentence? Then you have to backspace and add a period if you're a perfectionist like me (can't stand txt-spk!). "hi wut u do??"
 
Does anybody else find it interesting that YOU TOUCH THE SPACEBAR TO ACCEPT THE CORRECTED WORD, and you TOUCH THE SUGGESTED WORD TO BYPASS THE SUGGESTION AND STICK WITH YOUR ORIGINAL WORD? :confused:
Well, I thought the same too, but did you notice that there's a little "x" symbol next to the suggested word? Not that it helps to type faster, but at least you can see what you have to tap to type you own word.:)
 
Yesterday, I'm glad I bought it when it was $52. :)

Still, they need to add two features right after release.

Voice dialing.

Ability to add your own ring tones.

Sometime in the future I'd like to see real iChat. For now text only when only connected to EDGE and text and voice when connected to the Internet.

AT&T also needs to follow T-Moble's lead on allowing call switch between the wireless network and the Internet. See:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=3320089&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

Talk about kicking bu.. add that and you'll see even more people moving.


Funny you should mention ringtones.... That's in the next iPhone, err I mean MacRumor posting... :D
 
A landscape keyboard is not as good as everyone thinks when you are using your one finger or two thumbs. I remember using the widescreen keyboard on Magic Cap and found it SLOWER AND MORE ERROR PRONE than smaller onscreen keyboards because your thumbs have to travel further distance across the screen. It's slow, uncomfortable and less accurate believe it or not. The only time a bigger keyboard becomes better is when you can use all your fingers to type.

Consider what it would be like to type on a regular computer keyboard that was twice is large... You'd have to move your whole palm across the keyboard every time you wanted to type a word... the same is true for a landscape touch keyboard on the iPhone. Wider does not equal better..

That's the beauty of the iPhone; if you wnat to (damn full-size qwerty desktop keyboard, it made me mistype "want";) ) type on a vertical keyboard you can do that. After the software update you will be able to just flip the phone and use it horizontally. The CHOICE is yours. Other phones? No choice, no software updates, no 3.5" 160DPI screens!
 
All the damn R&D spent on predictive typing -- if they'd just made the damn keyboard work in landscape it wouldn't be necessary. I'll "trust the keyboard" when it's bigger. The fact that they had this video ready for release after the reviews came out -- when they knew they'd be dinged for the keyboard -- indicates they are aware that the typing thing is a real problem.

Well, Mossberg said in his review that after 5 days with it, he was typing as fast on the iPhone as he could on his Blackberry, which he's had for years. Dinged? Real problem?
 
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