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iPod Apple iPod classic Update?

Should Apple continue to Update the iPod classic?

  • Yes

    Votes: 55 73.3%

  • No

    Votes: 7 9.3%

  • Doesn't Matter

    Votes: 13 17.3%
  • Total voters
    75
Derkatwork said:
I highly doubt that even music junkies have 160GB of only music and no video. I doubt there is more than 5% of people that fill that to the ~40,000 song limit. And IF you have that much music, do you listen to it all? Or is it taking up space without being listened to? I only have 1.5 GB, but I cycle through it all. And the fact that mac hard drive has that much space is a different story too. Full computers have programs that take up a few GB. They typically handle much large files (and more of them) and need the extra space (although a terabyte is a bit excessive I must admit).
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Over 400GB of music, plus 300GB of movies and counting. Do I listen to it all?
I try. :D
 
The reason they're not updating the Classic? Apps. No apps on an iPod Classic means no 30% cut to them when an app is sold. It's really too bad, I loved the Classic
 
i would also love to see an updated iPod Classic.

I mean: 40,000 songs? on 160GB? This is sooo 2001, nobody talkin' AAC 128Kbit/s any more.
Nowadays, you get somewhere round
450MB/h with 16/44,1
or something like
800MB/h for 24/48
when using ALAC.
If you mix these formats half and half, you can fill your iPod classic with just 250 hours of music. At an average of 4 minutes per song, this totals at 3750 Songs, less than 1/10th of what it promises...
 
Derkatwork said:
I highly doubt that even music junkies have 160GB of only music and no video. I doubt there is more than 5% of people that fill that to the ~40,000 song limit. And IF you have that much music, do you listen to it all? Or is it taking up space without being listened to? I only have 1.5 GB, but I cycle through it all. And the fact that mac hard drive has that much space is a different story too. Full computers have programs that take up a few GB. They typically handle much large files (and more of them) and need the extra space (although a terabyte is a bit excessive I must admit).
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Hmm I guess that i'm a hardcore hardcore music collector then, i constantly have storage problems on my ipod classic (160gb), with no video at all!
 
Twizz91 said:
Hmm I guess that i'm a hardcore hardcore music collector then, i constantly have storage problems on my ipod classic (160gb), with no video at all!
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Same. I've been contemplating getting another classic, but I really do not want to have to manage two separate libraries.
 
Twizz91 said:
I think they are going to discontinue the classic, and upgrade the ipod touch to 128gb flash.

Hasn't anyone noticed how steve did nót point the classic as an ipod during the september event (the one with the 'complete ipod make-over') He did not once notice the Classic.
So i think it's end of road for the Classic....
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To discontinue the classic would be unbelievably foolish. The touch is good, but it's not for everyone. The classic is just a really nice thing to have, since it's nice and bulky and doesn't rely on a touch screen. Which a lot of people I know can't use it because their fingers are too big.
 
I find it funny that apple has been so reluctant to update capacities. People need more capacity these days. Yet..

- Classic is still at its 2007 capacity
- Nano is still at its 2008 capacity
- Touch is only 64GB which is wimpy if you want to carry around a decent collection of videos and have music + apps.
- Shuffle has been downgraded to a capacity introduced in 2008. Though admittedly it would be pretty silly to have a massive capacity shuffle, but 4GB should have definitely been the choice capacity for those who like to keep their music in higher quality bit rates.
 
I have an ipod classic and I will most likely never fill the 160gb it offers. I use about 20~30Gb, I don't like caring to many songs with me, I only listen in shuffle, is rare to listen albums (only progressive stuff like dream theater). But if I had bought an ipod touch, I would spend all day messing with apps. When I just want something to listen to music with a decent battery. They should make an ipod classic with flash memory and a bigger battery. And another for those who carry lossless music with more space.
 
I think they should keep updating them, maybe add bluetooth capabilities or AM/FM radio
 
What I wanted apple to do was an big ipod classic for lossless tunes, and an ipod classic with at least 32gb of flash space to carry around every day with me (with no gimmicks).
I can't use small things, since I keep on loosing them (already lost 2 flash drives and one ipod shuffle:eek:)
That's why I have an big ass flash drive and an ipod classic with only 26gigs of music.
They could launch an ipod mini style ipod classic with anodised covers and a clickwheel that doesn't need to get shinny to work well.
 
more than 160gb... in music ????

I will admit the need for a larger size if there is someone with that large of a collection that was 100% purchased , not downloaded for free anywhere
 
ItsJustafnPhone said:
more than 160gb... in music ????

I will admit the need for a larger size if there is someone with that large of a collection that was 100% purchased , not downloaded for free anywhere
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Well... where's that admission? :D

Besides, that's like saying lawyers never lie...
 
Well it ain't that hard to fill up 160gb of music. I don't buy music from itunes. I still like old school cd's.
ALAC is crap compared to flac. For example the album Lateralus from Tool, uses 480MB in flac but if compressed in ALAC uses 853MB (24 Bit HDCD).
 
Blue Velvet said:
They've been using Toshiba 1.8" drives in these for years.

The largest one that Toshiba currently make is 320Gb with a 250Gb model in the same range, but whether they're at a bulk trade price that can enable Apple to keep their usual high margins and still have a product that people will pay for is another thing altogether.
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DrumApple said:
I disagree, yes 160GB is a lot of storage for the average person. But iPod classics are intended for the hardcore music collectors etc. with a need for A LOT of storage space. For them, 160GB is not much today. Look at computer HD's, the second level iMac already has a terabyte!
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Now that the nano has gone touchscreen, my next logical purchase is the Classic, as I'm not yet ready to give up the Clickwheel-- I love the no-look functionality.

I use my 5G nano for both music and video, often in conjunction with the Composite A/V cable. I could easily fill a Classic with a decent amount of music and a LOT of movies for when there's nothing decent on the hotel's cable TV, or when my daughter's bored and fidgety.

250Gb seems about right for a healthy mix of audio and video while out and about to me. The 320Gb drive may make it too costly to sell well.

Alternately, Apple could redesign it to use the SSD that's made for the MacBook Air, and use economies of scale to reduce production cost. Of course, this might make the resulting device "taller", so that might rule it out.

EDIT: Oh, and colors! Not the whole gamut of color like the nano, but a small assortment, say pink, blue and green or purple in addition to the silver and black. Perhaps the same color selection as the shuffle...?
 
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The main problem that we (iPod Classic users) face, is that it lost it's former glory.
It's a stop gap, yet mine performs it's job just fine. No issues with it. But I would like more options (color / capacity / ssd / harddisk).
The new ipod nano is way to small and the lack of the clickwheel makes it very unappealing to me.
Looking forward to grab another ipod classic and convert it to compact flash.

And I agree with dXTC, the ipod classic lcd has very lousy colors. But it preforms well in sun light.

So most likely apple will someday kill it.
 
Make it an iPod Pro!

Reading this treat and out of my own experience the iPod Classic should be made into an iPod Pro (iPod HiFi? ... was there something?).
Since my iPod Photo 60GB died, I was hoping for a 128GB Touch.
I'm hesitating to get the Classic as I have a history of damaged hard-drives.
(iPod 3G 20GB / iPod 4G 40GB (+1 disc replaced) / iPod Photo 60GB (+1 disc replaced))

Meanwhile I'm back on an old 300 $ DiscMan and realized what I was missing. A whole dimension of space and clarity.
(Sure you'll need a better headphone than what is coming with the iPod to get this difference)

So pleas Apple, put in flash memory and use the space for a better audio unit.
This will end up pricy but compared to what I've spend for my music-collection pretty much peanuts.
I really don't like to buy one of this ugly HiFiMan's out there!
 
I still think that next year Apple are going to go 100% Touch based with all the iPod models.
2007 - iPod touch released. It proved a success and that success has grown with every iteration since then.
2010 - iPod nano made 95% touch-based & seems to be proving popular
2011 - iPods Classic & Shuffle made touch based? I think the Classic will become just like the Nano6G but with a more rectangular screen and video capability OR the Classic will be phased out completely.
 
ngenerator said:
The reason they're not updating the Classic? Apps. No apps on an iPod Classic means no 30% cut to them when an app is sold. It's really too bad, I loved the Classic
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I agree with you. But let's face it, the Classic is old tech, no iOS and especially there is the old mechanical drive which is going to be replaced in the future by flash memory and SSDs in general. I'm all for taking all of our music with us (even better in lossless which at one point has to come to iTunes Store i suppose) but even if I had to choose again between a Classic or an iPod Touch, i would chose the latter one all the time because of the many advantages it has over the old mechanical classic. The main problem right now with Touch-es is the space compared to the Classic but i'm pretty sure that is not going to be a concern for much longer, I expect a 128gb flash memory iPod Touch (and maybe iPad and iphone? not so sure on iphone) by next year!
 
Zoddino said:
I agree with you. But let's face it, the Classic is old tech, no iOS and especially there is the old mechanical drive which is going to be replaced in the future by flash memory and SSDs in general. I'm all for taking all of our music with us (even better in lossless which at one point has to come to iTunes Store i suppose) but even if I had to choose again between a Classic or an iPod Touch, i would chose the latter one all the time because of the many advantages it has over the old mechanical classic. The main problem right now with Touch-es is the space compared to the Classic but i'm pretty sure that is not going to be a concern for much longer, I expect a 128gb flash memory iPod Touch (and maybe iPad and iphone? not so sure on iphone) by next year!
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The hard drive is what makes it really old tech. Remember that the nano is still running the same iPod OS but just adapted to allow touch gestures.
 
If they do not update it, atleast drop the price. The design looks fine to me for a music player.

Maybe there will be some kind of discount on it for black friday. I need a new ipod, and one with no less than 120 gb of storage is the one for me.
 
I'm a bit surprised that the Classic hasn't seen a price reduction. It is using kinda old technology compared to the Touch, has less features, fatter, and smaller screen.

I hope that the Classic will get an update soon with maybe a SSD, different colors, or even a built in speaker like the Touch.
 
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