Yeah, 1% is an exaggeration, but we are into diminishing returns: the portability benefits of removing all the heavy, bulky electro-mechanical clobber associated with floppy drives, optical drives and spinning rust hard drives - and even ridiculously bulky full-sized DVI or VGA ports - were huge, and justified a bit of transitional inconvenience. The benefits of losing USB-A ports to shave off a millimetre or two, or putting up with ultra-low-travel keyboards are less obvious.
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"Apple knows a thing or two - because they've removed a thing or two!"
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Yeah, 1% is an exaggeration, but we are into diminishing returns: the portability benefits of removing all the heavy, bulky electro-mechanical clobber associated with floppy drives, optical drives and spinning rust hard drives - and even ridiculously bulky full-sized DVI or VGA ports - were huge, and justified a bit of transitional inconvenience. The benefits of losing USB-A ports to shave off a millimetre or two, or putting up with ultra-low-travel keyboards are less obvious.
Considering that Mac represents about 10% of the market and most other computers are still pretty upgradable your statement is totally false.
Here's a hint for the future. Your specific wishes and hopes do not necessarily speak for "the vast majority of people these days".
People buy into this "everyone" thing just like they tend to believe what they see on TV or what they read on "Yahoo" when the truth is there's a larger populous - which also accounts for the surprise of Trump becoming President - a silent populous perhaps but not powerless.
There's no point in challenging someones placement of value - we're individuals, but the loss of functionality and compatibility prevents us from keeping that individuality.
I appreciate all the input and from that I get "we've lost value for perceived benefits dictated by Apple" = GREAT!
"Apple knows a thing or two - while they've lost a customer or two!"
There's no point in challenging someones placement of value - we're individuals, but the loss of functionality and compatibility prevents us from keeping that individuality.
I appreciate all the input and from that I get "we've lost value for perceived benefits dictated by Apple" = GREAT!
"Apple knows a thing or two - while they've lost a customer or two!"
I was with you until the bolded statement. I don't see how removal of any of the obsoleted items listed forces a loss of individuality.
If I, as an individual prefer a 32-bit App and there is no upgrade to 64-bit I will loose that App moving forward - if I want to maintain that App I cannot advance to next platform - some consider that a loss.
I agree, but that's a problem for the app developer to solve. They know about these changes well in advance. If they want their app to continue to be used, they will migrate it to 64-bit.
I don't see how removal of ADB, CD-ROM drives, or even a headphone jack remove the possibility for individuality.
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I don't ever remember it being called "Lampshade".
The G4 iMac is my favorite Apple design. I purchased one back in 2005, and still have it. I would love for Apple to start having retro Mac designs and make a new G4 iMac with a larger screen and modern internals. I doubt it will ever happen though.
Actually, my statement is demonstrably correct. Here's a hint for the future. Study and research before you make claims. I always do.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2009/oct/28/laptops-sales-desktop-computers
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-laptops/is-it-the-end-of-the-desktop-pc-idUSTRE50601320090107
http://gs.statcounter.com/platform-market-share/desktop-mobile-tablet
and on and on and on. The vast majority use portable computers. Full Stop.
The vast majority do not buy Rolls Royce but you can buy one - which supports choice and individuality. The problem "is" - Apple represented the Rolls Royce of computers while also offering a tiered approach to affordability thus the "common person" could have a very good, affordable, flexible computer from a company that also makes the Rolls Royce of computers.
This just isn't true anymore and most relevant arguments emanate from this fact.
This just isn't true anymore and most relevant arguments emanate from this fact.
All those links say laptops are taking over from desktops. That's true. What you can't seem to grasp is that most non-Apple laptops besides Surface are still extremely upgradable.
I know you worship Apple and it's very hard for you to open your eyes and look around, but why don't you take your own advice and study and research before you make claims.
You're saying most portable computers don't have bays. They have HDD bays, (often multiple ones or CDs that can be replaced with extra HDDs) as well as industry standard M.2 bays. And memory slots, and user accessible batteries as well. There are a lot more laptops sold with that after-purchase flexibility than Mac laptops.
Plenty of removals to hate, but I especially hate that they removed the battery percentage indicator lights on the sides of the Macbooks.
I also assume you can't tell when your new Macbook is done charging by just looking at the USB-C cable, like how Magsafe had the orange and green lights.
I also assume you can't tell when your new Macbook is done charging by just looking at the USB-C cable, like how Magsafe had the orange and green lights.
...and, indeed, if Rolls Royce should capriciously eliminate an essential feature - such as the umbrella holder, the hub-caps that stay upright as you drive or - heaven forfend - the Silver Lady herself then I would immediately instruct Jeeves to compose a most strongly worded letter to The Times expressing my profound dismay and the opinion that such a travesty would never have happened were the old Messers Rolls and Royce (God rest their souls) still among us. Still, I suppose some absolute oik of a nouveau-riche footballer would produce an ignorant response such as "I presume you'd like them to reinstate the advance-retard lever, then?" but that's just The Times since they started offering a tabloid edition...
NB: For the avoidance of doubt the above is not serious and I own neither a Rolls or a Jeeves and would only employ phrases such as "heaven forfend", "oik" or, indeed, "footballer" for ironic effect.
Unfortunately that's the term everyone seems to use... You'll like what i give you...
Where did the personal views go a user can decide for themselves, even Apple users.... Instead Apple tells us what we should get, and users all say "how high"
Just because its a limited eco-system, doesn't means users outside of Apple must thing in the same direction... That's Apple's motto. nit the public's, but sometimes i think we forget that, due to the business.
Sure, It's just a good job that nobody uses their Mac or iPad for, e.g. music or audio production (be it professional, pro-sumer, amateur or purely for personal satisfaction), where the inevitable significant-fraction-of-a-second delay caused by wireless headphones makes them about as much use as a chocolate teapot (yes, you can delay recorded video or a piano-roll display to compensate for latency, but plug a keyboard or microphone in and that kinda requires a time machine).
There's huge potential for iPhones and iPads in this area, and a host of excellent products available but they're already hamstrung by the limited connectivity (they all depend on the "camera adapter" that gives you 1 USB and a charge-only lightning port, leaving you nowhere to plug your lightning headphones).
Then you end up with your bluetooth headphones for just listening to pre-recorded stuff, your lightning headphones to plug into your iDevice, your USB-C headphones to plug into your Mac (fortunately, sanity has prevailed so far with Mac headphone jacks) and your analog headphones to plug into other equipment... (there are a few models of 3.5mm/wireless headphones out there - but not much choice... or there's always more dongles).
It's freakin 2018 and look at the state of affairs - things were more progressive in prior iterations which means we're being "used, beat, taken advantage of, humiliated and most importantly the company that brought you freedom is now locking you in their cage!
At some point ... strength is measured in ones ability to know when to quit!
I think the fact removal of headphone jack Apple has done it, but you will never see PC's do this, as everyone will complain..
The only reason why Apple can removal these things more regularly and/or quickly . is because its a smaller market.... Apple users won't all decide to go elsewhere since their business relies on Windows., and you'll never see all business in the world go to Mac's. In part, because that is driven by lack of software which runs on Mac.
Mac has good support, but Windows has much bigger circle of developers.