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I happen to like the 17" screen. Perfect for a kitchen or bedroom computer. Just don't know if they are VESA compatible yet? After the iSight G5 iMacs came out, suddenly, they were no longer VESA mountable. Except for some weird third party jerry-rig job that kept the stand in place.

In other words, I'd love one for my kitchen. On a Vesa mounted arm.

Hoping that Apple updates/upgrades these... that would be very cool and I like the white plastic.

Maybe they'll do with the 17" iMac what the did with the white Macbooks? Keep the plastic and upgrade the specs?
 
But now the competition has gotten radically more inexpensive, while MS Windows is now delivering a reasonably good computing experience (OS X is still much better, but the point is that MS Windows isn't infuriating to use anymore), and Apple now doesn't even fully serve the markets it used to, and thus Apple also obviously hasn't kept up with the growing variety of hardware devices such as netbooks.

As I stated earlier, in a lot of schools right now the driving factor in computers is price, and price alone. I also see the "all in one" nature of the iMac as a potential drawback, since if something goes wrong you lose the whole machine. With a cheap PC (I'm using Dell Optiplex as an example), you can easily swap monitors or other components to keep them running. For the price of the 17" iMac, a penny pinching IT department could buy a couple of bottom-spec PC's and some cheap 17" CRT monitors.
 
Any word on the specs?

Needs at least a 2ghz Core 2 and the 9400M to be worth $899. Or they could easily sell the last gen 20" for $899.

They're selling the previous 20 inch 2.4ghz Core 2 for $949 (see here), so the $899 for that ancient 17" is a rip-off price. It's like you're paying a premium for a smaller screen!

I have to wonder whether the 17" for $1059 without any specs is a placeholder for a new aluminum 17" model.
 
Yup, a bunch of the Mac labs at both of my campuses bought those exact same iMacs, since it would seem that they didn't need the aluminum iMacs for a higher price, and since most of their Macs are for Mac Office apps and internet research within the campus academic databases, with the exception of some of their film/video editing for compiling research interviews for projects or presentations of research....
 
As I stated earlier, in a lot of schools right now the driving factor in computers is price, and price alone. I also see the "all in one" nature of the iMac as a potential drawback, since if something goes wrong you lose the whole machine. With a cheap PC (I'm using Dell Optiplex as an example), you can easily swap monitors or other components to keep them running. For the price of the 17" iMac, a penny pinching IT department could buy a couple of bottom-spec PC's and some cheap 17" CRT monitors.

Yes, and that's why those decision-makers are fit to do nothing but administer, and that, administer in academia, where your performance is not based upon economic success or failure. Educrats have no vision, no common sense, and no wisdom. It doesn't surprise me that they make stupid decisions. The very same people are the ones who drive out quality teachers who "think different" too, just to retain their feudal empire of incompetence.
 
Yes, and that's why those decision-makers are fit to do nothing but administer, and that, administer in academia, where your performance is not based upon economic success or failure. Educrats have no vision, no common sense, and no wisdom. It doesn't surprise me that they make stupid decisions. The very same people are the ones who drive out quality teachers who "think different" too, just to retain their feudal empire of incompetence.

At our school, we have ten 20-inch Intel-based iMacs in the library. It has been more than 2 years and no hardware issue at all. iMac G5s are being used as well. Meanwhile, we plan to buy more 24-inch iMacs for classrooms. :p
 
volume price

Our school district has about 6000 PCs and 1500 Macs. We are being offered that model at $699. Considering I have a few G3s and a Number of G4s still in the fleet, I am thinking about it at $699.
 
I work for a state education agency and we have had this machine on our purchasing list for a couple of years at least. In our particular case the $899 purchase price includes three years of Applecare for the machine, so it's not as bad a deal as you might think.

About the combo drive: a lot of schools don't want their student desktops outside the video production lab to have a burner of any sort, or they disable them. They don't want kids using the machines to share MP3's, porn, bootlegs, etc.
 
Standard height of a kitchen wall cabinet is 18" above the counter. a 20" iMac is 18.5" (Nice planning Apple). If you want a computer that will fit on your kitchen counter, the 17" iMac was the only option.
 
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