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I am not even interested in the streaming enough to use the free trial. I have no interest in connect as well. Adding capabilities to playing my local library (like crossfade) would be interesting. That wouldn't generate revenue though so ......
 
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Not interested in this. What I am interested in is keeping the tabs at the bottom for my playlists, albums, artists, etc. This just makes navigation harder for those of us who won't use the streaming service, unless I'm missing something.

This is exactly what I was thinking. Those tabs at the bottom of the new app are all useless to me. I'll only be using my local music collection so it sucks the navigation for that has gotten more difficult. Would be nice to know I can change the bottom tabs like you currently can on the music app, but I'm not holding my breath. It's just annoying because going from artists to playlists for example took one tap. Now it takes two.
 
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I see, so all the new stuff aside, this is just like any other streaming service for $10.99 (similar to Spotify). Frankly that's all I really wanted to know, can I stream and how much. Thanks.
 
The problem with music services, at least for me, is that my taste is so specific and limited that it is hard for me to truly appreciate these platforms and apps that are being advertised. It is hard to find new music that pertains to covers of video game music, soundtracks, notable classical performances, and instrumental music. I will give Apple Music a try, but I doubt the new personalization option will actually discover these nuanced taste in music that I have developed over my lifetime.

Spotify can't do it, Pandora can't do it, and I am left with only option of downloading the music that I love and playing it off locally as nothing like these types of pieces can be discovered simply through "streaming."

Anyone else have similar issues with music streaming/discoverability or am I the only one?
This, I was starting to wonder if I was the only one. I don't have favorite genres or really even any favorite artists, I just like specific songs that can be on the completely other side of the spectrum.

Pandora never came close to finding "music I like", nor spotify, iTunes Radio, or iHeartRadio. A friend of mine swore up and down that Beats would do it for me, but it was again another "nope" as it just played either top-hit music that I hated, or songs that I've never heard of that I also hated.

I spent an extremely long time "moulding" a few of my pandora stations, being sure to thumbs up songs I liked and thumbs down every song I didn't like. I did this for weeks, and yet it still failed to match me with music I enjoyed.

I'm not really blaming these music services- it's just my fault for being so picky with my music. But for now, I don't see how Apple Music will be any different as far as discovery goes.
 
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So there's no way to put "Albums" and "Playlists" back on the bottom like before? So if I don't use Apple Music It now takes more work to get at my content than before? *sigh*
 
Not interested in this. What I am interested in is keeping the tabs at the bottom for my playlists, albums, artists, etc. This just makes navigation harder for those of us who won't use the streaming service, unless I'm missing something.

Exactly my first thought. Apple Music seems like a great service for someone who's not me, but now my Albums and Playlists will be hidden behind a menu. with 80% of the app's UI unless to me. I'm not trying to be a kill joy, but why can't we have a toggle for Apple Music or still have the ability to customize the bottom bar?

Really happy with iOS 9 and OS X updates, really POed about this.
 
If I subscribe to Apple Music will my current library be uploaded into the cloud? I use iTunes Match right now but I don't want to pay for both.

From Apple.com:

With an Apple Music membership, your entire library lives in iCloud. We compare every track in your collection to the Apple Music library to see if we have a copy. If we do, you can automatically listen to it straight from the cloud. If you have music that’s not in our catalog, we upload those songs from iTunes on your Mac or PC. It’s all in iCloud, so it won’t take up any space on your devices.
 
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From Apple.com:

With an Apple Music membership, your entire library lives in iCloud. We compare every track in your collection to the Apple Music library to see if we have a copy. If we do, you can automatically listen to it straight from the cloud. If you have music that’s not in our catalog, we upload those songs from iTunes on your Mac or PC. It’s all in iCloud, so it won’t take up any space on your devices.
Right. It would appear as though, at least for now, iTunes match is a lower tier until it eventually goes away.
 
"Just" $9.99 per month? I get that's a deal to some people, but is it really all that great?

I listen to a lot of music. I was using Pandora, then iTunes Radio (with a Match subscription), then back to Pandora when iTunes Radio became unstable for me. Looking over my financial records, I spent somewhere between $30-80 on music last year (wide range due to Apple bundling software and music purchases into a single receipt). I feel like I buy an album (or at least a few songs) every other month, but based on the records, it's less frequent.

Now Apple wants me to pay $120 per year - which is somewhere between 1.5-4x as much as I normally spend on music - and I completely lose access once I stop paying? There isn't even a perk like "download an album for free to keep once every three months"?

I don't care about human-curated lists, and I don't care about radio with a DJ. We got into the "algorithm-based music services" that Iovine trashed at the WWDC because they offered better music discovery than your average radio station, and customization. I like to dip into those streaming services, discover new songs and artists, and then make purchases based on that. I know the industry would just love to take us back to the days when they had better control over what we were going to listen to, but it seems like a step backward from the consumer's perspective.

$10 a month... those users coming from Spotify are used to this pricing, but Pandora is $5 per month, and iTunes Match was $25 per year (a little over $2 per month, if you want to break it down that way). I know Apple wanted to price it at $7.99 and the industry forced them higher, but even that would have seemed a bit steep to me.

It's the same price as buying 12 albums per year from iTunes. Spotify, Apple Music, et al. let you listen to far more than that.

If you mostly listen to your favorites and just buy new songs/albums here and there, then no, it doesn't make financial sense. But if you listen to lots of new music, $10/mo for unlimited access to 30 million+ songs is an incredible deal.
 
"Just" $9.99 per month? I get that's a deal to some people, but is it really all that great?

I listen to a lot of music. I was using Pandora, then iTunes Radio (with a Match subscription), then back to Pandora when iTunes Radio became unstable for me. Looking over my financial records, I spent somewhere between $30-80 on music last year (wide range due to Apple bundling software and music purchases into a single receipt). I feel like I buy an album (or at least a few songs) every other month, but based on the records, it's less frequent.

Now Apple wants me to pay $120 per year - which is somewhere between 1.5-4x as much as I normally spend on music - and I completely lose access once I stop paying? There isn't even a perk like "download an album for free to keep once every three months"?

I don't care about human-curated lists, and I don't care about radio with a DJ. We got into the "algorithm-based music services" that Iovine trashed at the WWDC because they offered better music discovery than your average radio station, and customization. I like to dip into those streaming services, discover new songs and artists, and then make purchases based on that. I know the industry would just love to take us back to the days when they had better control over what we were going to listen to, but it seems like a step backward from the consumer's perspective.

$10 a month... those users coming from Spotify are used to this pricing, but Pandora is $5 per month, and iTunes Match was $25 per year (a little over $2 per month, if you want to break it down that way). I know Apple wanted to price it at $7.99 and the industry forced them higher, but even that would have seemed a bit steep to me.

Maybe it'll be the future, but I'm not convinced that it's better. I'm willing to give it a try, but I'm not sold - especially at that price.

But thank you @kmj2318 for this write-up. There were a surprising number of gaps in the features in the WWDC keynote (and they didn't mention any compelling reason to go with this over competing services), and this went a long way toward clearing those up.
Honestly, you're being really narrow minded here. Quite annoyed by people who only think about themselves like you.

Apple Music allows you to listen to almost all the music in the world, anytime, anywhere, for $10 / month. iTunes Match is cheaper, but it only allows you to listen to songs you already have. That's a big difference.

$10 / month to listen to any song you want, any time, any place. That's not expensive at all. The problem is that you have zero interest in the offering. The price of the offering is not the problem. For anyone who doesn't want an iPhone, even $100 for an iPhone is too expensive, compared to the $1000 it usually costs.
 
So there's no way to put "Albums" and "Playlists" back on the bottom like before? So if I don't use Apple Music It now takes more work to get at my content than before? *sigh*

If you don't like the interface you can use another app instead like "Ecoute" to just play your own content.
 
Still no UK pricing for Apple Music, not even on the Apple UK website; the price is missing.
 
The problem with music services, at least for me, is that my taste is so specific and limited that it is hard for me to truly appreciate these platforms and apps that are being advertised. It is hard to find new music that pertains to covers of video game music, soundtracks, notable classical performances, and instrumental music. I will give Apple Music a try, but I doubt the new personalization option will actually discover these nuanced taste in music that I have developed over my lifetime.

Spotify can't do it, Pandora can't do it, and I am left with only option of downloading the music that I love and playing it off locally as nothing like these types of pieces can be discovered simply through "streaming."

Anyone else have similar issues with music streaming/discoverability or am I the only one?
On iTunes Radio I had a bit more of an issue with this, but not with Pandora. I don't listen to a ton of video game music, but I have a station based on "Yasunori Mitsuda" (composer for Chrono Trigger, Xenogears, among others) and I get a nice mix of video game music (some orchestral, some from independent artists), electronica, and new age. For this genre I think the key is to go based off of composers, rather than trying to use a genre.

It's the same price as buying 12 albums per year from iTunes. Spotify, Apple Music, et al. let you listen to far more than that.
It's the same price, but value is subjective. If I buy an album once every 12 months, at the end of those 12 months I have 12 albums. If I pay for a subscription and then stop after 12 months, at the end of those 12 months I have nothing. To those people who always have an internet connection, who rarely like to re-listen to their old songs, and who are OK with the entire scheme, this is sure to be a fantastic service. But I'm not sold on it.

Honestly, you're being really narrow minded here. Quite annoyed by people who only think about themselves like you.

Apple Music allows you to listen to almost all the music in the world, anytime, anywhere, for $10 / month. iTunes Match is cheaper, but it only allows you to listen to songs you already have. That's a big difference.

$10 / month to listen to any song you want, any time, any place. That's not expensive at all. The problem is that you have zero interest in the offering. The price of the offering is not the problem. For anyone who doesn't want an iPhone, even $100 for an iPhone is too expensive, compared to the $1000 it usually costs.
If you'd read my entire post, I think you'd see that I mention that "I'm willing to give it a try" and I muse that "maybe it'll be the future." You also can't listen "any time, any place." Air travel and buildings lacking wifi that also block cellular signals are two examples that aren't all that rare. Maybe you are fortunate enough not to have to put up with those things in your life, but not all of us are that lucky.

So I'll say it again: I'm willing to give it a try, maybe it'll be the future. I can certainly imagine how this would be a wonderful, worthwhile service for some people. But coming from the model of music ownership that I and those older than me have grown up with, I'm not convinced that this will be satisfying.
 
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The problem with music services, at least for me, is that my taste is so specific and limited that it is hard for me to truly appreciate these platforms and apps that are being advertised. It is hard to find new music that pertains to covers of video game music, soundtracks, notable classical performances, and instrumental music. I will give Apple Music a try, but I doubt the new personalization option will actually discover these nuanced taste in music that I have developed over my lifetime.

Spotify can't do it, Pandora can't do it, and I am left with only option of downloading the music that I love and playing it off locally as nothing like these types of pieces can be discovered simply through "streaming."

Anyone else have similar issues with music streaming/discoverability or am I the only one?

I dj..... so music streaming is effectively useless to me.
 
Honestly, you're being really narrow minded here. Quite annoyed by people who only think about themselves like you.

Apple Music allows you to listen to almost all the music in the world, anytime, anywhere, for $10 / month. iTunes Match is cheaper, but it only allows you to listen to songs you already have. That's a big difference.

You're being narrow minded. Apple Music will NOT have almost all the music in the world and if you listen to to indie artists who won't be on Apple Music or even respected composers like Yoko Shimomura. If you want the Beetles or someone on the iTunes Top 10, you're golden.

I'm not shooting down the service, I even said it was good in an earlier post. But @Ledgem and others have a right to voice dissatisfaction with the service or frustration over it being pushed in your face if you're not interested.
 
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The problem with music services, at least for me, is that my taste is so specific and limited that it is hard for me to truly appreciate these platforms and apps that are being advertised. It is hard to find new music that pertains to covers of video game music, soundtracks, notable classical performances, and instrumental music. I will give Apple Music a try, but I doubt the new personalization option will actually discover these nuanced taste in music that I have developed over my lifetime.

Spotify can't do it, Pandora can't do it, and I am left with only option of downloading the music that I love and playing it off locally as nothing like these types of pieces can be discovered simply through "streaming."

Anyone else have similar issues with music streaming/discoverability or am I the only one?
The bell shaped curve is not your friend, few if any large businesses can make money off someone like you. That leaves you out in the cold.
 
Can anyone confirm if Apple Music works like Google Play Music, in the sense that, I can upload local files to my Library and access them from my phone or another computer via streaming?

I have a lot of Video Game Music I like to keep in my library, but it can take up to 10+GB with VGM music alone. I want to be able to access that on my iPhone but not have to store 10+GB of music, considering I have a 16GB iPhone.
 
Can anyone confirm if Apple Music works like Google Play Music, in the sense that, I can upload local files to my Library and access them from my phone or another computer via streaming?

I have a lot of Video Game Music I like to keep in my library, but it can take up to 10+GB with VGM music alone. I want to be able to access that on my iPhone but not have to store 10+GB of music, considering I have a 16GB iPhone.

That will work. Your local iTunes library will be scanned and matched to your iCloud library. If Apple doesn't have your music it'll be uploaded, and be accessible in the cloud. You won't need to have all your music locally on you phone to stream it.
 
Can anyone confirm if Apple Music works like Google Play Music, in the sense that, I can upload local files to my Library and access them from my phone or another computer via streaming?

I have a lot of Video Game Music I like to keep in my library, but it can take up to 10+GB with VGM music alone. I want to be able to access that on my iPhone but not have to store 10+GB of music, considering I have a 16GB iPhone.
Yes. Apple Music includes a feature much like iTunes Match that will match all of you music to what's available on iTunes and upload what it can't match, ready to be streamed.
 
confirmed wont support sonos so not good enough for me. sticking with spotify.

Agreed. Really disappointed to see there won't be Sonos support at launch. I won't consider making the jump until the happens - the issue is I'm a Beats Music subscriber so I'll actually have to move to Spotify until they get Sonos integrated.
 
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