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Apple Music + iTunes Match [MERGED]

So I just renewed my itunes match subscription.

I understand that apple music do what itunes match can do.

So if I subscribe to apple music, it's like I lose the money I spent on match? I sure apple won't refound for the remaining months of my itunes match subscription?

Thanks
 
Dingo Dave 69 said:
Wondering what the need is for iTunes Match if you have apple music? Don't need all your music available because you can get it straight from apple music, what am I missing?
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1. Some people may be happy having only their own music in the cloud. Given that Match costs only about a fifth of what Apple Music costs, it's a better deal for those people.
2. It's not clear yet if Apple Music covers all of Match's functionality.
 
Rigby said:
1. Some people may be happy having only their own music in the cloud. Given that Match costs only about a fifth of what Apple Music costs, it's a better deal for those people.
2. It's not clear yet if Apple Music covers all of Match's functionality.
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so to round-up iTunes match is good for if you want all your music regardless if its on Apple Music or not to uploaded to your iCloud and then streamed across all iOS devices.

Apple music to just stream all the music they have available

and both for if you really want to make sure you have a wide access to all music of your own and Apple Music
 
Blujelly said:
so to round-up iTunes match is good for if you want all your music regardless if its on Apple Music or not to uploaded to your iCloud and then streamed across all iOS devices.

Apple music to just stream all the music they have available

and both for if you really want to make sure you have a wide access to all music of your own and Apple Music
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No - Apple music to stream all the music they have available and any music you own that they don't have available (it will be uploaded just like with iTunes match). I really can't see a use case for having both to be honest because all their documentation points to iTunes match being a subset of Apple Music
 
One example is The Beatles they will only stream if you own them and have iTunes Match they will not stream on Apple Music.
 
Hutch1 said:
One example is The Beatles they will only stream if you own them and have iTunes Match they will not stream on Apple Music.
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incorrect see above. if u own it apple music will upload it as well as it isnt part of their streaming catalogue
 
Blujelly said:
so to round-up iTunes match is good for if you want all your music regardless if its on Apple Music or not to uploaded to your iCloud and then streamed across all iOS devices.
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No, Apple Music will do that for you without Match.

One thing that might not work without Match is downloading DRM-free copies of music from your own library that has been matched by Apple Music (it looks like all music downloaded for offline-listening via Apple Music will have some kind of DRM that ties it to one device). This has been used by people to upgrade low-bitrate music files to Apple's 256kbps AAC versions. But we won't know for sure until iTunes 12.2 is available.
 
Does anyone know whether iTunes Match allows you to re-download your matched songs after you deleted your local copies, even after your iTunes Match subscription expires?

I want to store my music in the cloud to free up some space, but I noticed that once you delete your local copy of a matched song, you won't be able to use it outside of Apple Music anymore (e.g. if you log out). I was under the impression that you could do this with iTunes Match, but Apple Music seems to offer you the same DRM-protected file as with other streamed songs, regardless whether it was matched or not.

This is troubling. So I pretty much don't benefit from iCloud Music Library and the high-quality versions if I have an inferior local copy. If I choose to delete that old local copy, I will never get it back and can't replace it beyond Apple Music.
 
If I cancel my iTunes Match subscription, will I lose my music in the cloud or will it stay on Apple Music? I want to cancel, but I'm afraid I'll lose everything.
 
Blujelly said:
Hi All,

just a quick few questions.

I've tried looking around but haven't gotten anywhere the little heart that is there from the playlist that Apple Music generates or single tracks you find what does it do? I assume the track you like you click the heart and it will generate more music from this artist and bands alike?

Also iTunes match generates your iTunes library and makes it available to stream via your data or wifi, have i read this right and am in right in saying that if after the 3 month free period i decide to pay for Apple Music that this effectively then turns into iTunes match and still uploads my iTunes library for me to listen and then have the whole streaming service from Apple music as well?

Thanks in advance.
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I previously had iTunes Match, my music not on the phone shows but will not play, when I press to play the little play window jumps but the track does not play, only songs on the phone and ones I added via music will play I don't know what is going on it was working, I did download the new iTunes, but did not let it rescan my music.
 
Quick question if anyone can help. In my library, how can I tell the difference between music I own and have matched in the cloud with iTunes Match and music that I've added to my library using the Apple music subscription service?

On my ios device there doesn't seem to be any graphical distinction. It would be great to see the difference between music I actually own and music that will disappear if I cancelled The apple music service.

I haven't checked in OSX iTunes yet, perhaps things will be clearer there....

Thanks!
 
R3k said:
Quick question if anyone can help. In my library, how can I tell the difference between music I own and have matched in the cloud with iTunes Match and music that I've added to my library using the Apple music subscription service?

On my ios device there doesn't seem to be any graphical distinction. It would be great to see the difference between music I actually own and music that will disappear if I cancelled The apple music service.

I haven't checked in OSX iTunes yet, perhaps things will be clearer there....

Thanks!
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yeah I'm also in the same boat with this
 
R3k said:
Quick question if anyone can help. In my library, how can I tell the difference between music I own and have matched in the cloud with iTunes Match and music that I've added to my library using the Apple music subscription service?

On my ios device there doesn't seem to be any graphical distinction. It would be great to see the difference between music I actually own and music that will disappear if I cancelled The apple music service.

I haven't checked in OSX iTunes yet, perhaps things will be clearer there....

Thanks!
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Unfortunately there is no way to see what songs are matched and what songs are download on iOS, on iTunes, however, you can check what kind of file you have by adding the Kind option to the column, it will tell you what kind of file it is.
 
R3k said:
Quick question if anyone can help. In my library, how can I tell the difference between music I own and have matched in the cloud with iTunes Match and music that I've added to my library using the Apple music subscription service?

On my ios device there doesn't seem to be any graphical distinction. It would be great to see the difference between music I actually own and music that will disappear if I cancelled The apple music service.

I haven't checked in OSX iTunes yet, perhaps things will be clearer there....

Thanks!
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On iTunes for OS X (or Windows), simply right click the track, click Get Info, click the File tab, then look at what it says for "iCloud Status".

This seems to be all hidden for iOS users of course, probably because Apple thought that if a user had any music purchased elsewhere other than from the iTunes store, then the user is obviously using iTunes for a Mac or PC (to sync between devices), so they would be able to check the fine details there. A user solely living off of an iOS device(s) can only start and build their music library from one source: iTunes, therefore that user would never use a service like iTunes Match (since it requires an existing library on a Mac or PC anyway).
 
Icaras said:
On iTunes for OS X (or Windows), simply right click the track, click Get Info, click the File tab, then look at what it says for "iCloud Status".

This seems to be all hidden for iOS users of course, probably because Apple thought that if a user had any music purchased elsewhere other than from the iTunes store, then the user is obviously using iTunes for a Mac or PC (to sync between devices), so they would be able to check the fine details there. A user solely living off of an iOS device(s) can only start and build their music library from one source: iTunes, therefore that user would never use a service like iTunes Match (since it requires an existing library on a Mac or PC anyway).
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Ok, thanks for your help.
 
dannyyankou said:
If I cancel my iTunes Match subscription, will I lose my music in the cloud or will it stay on Apple Music? I want to cancel, but I'm afraid I'll lose everything.
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My iTunes Match subscription ended today. I didn't renew. Everything seems to be functioning as normal. I am still able to download my tracks from iCloud and find the mp3 or m4a in finder. I deleted an album that was matched in iTunes, and then re-added it. I don't have an iPod so I can't test syncing to it, but I can't imagine anything will change.
 
cmChimera said:
My iTunes Match subscription ended today. I didn't renew. Everything seems to be functioning as normal. I am still able to download my tracks from iCloud and find the mp3 or m4a in finder. I deleted an album that was matched in iTunes, and then re-added it. I don't have an iPod so I can't test syncing to it, but I can't imagine anything will change.
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Ok, thanks. I'll just keep my current iTunes Match subscription until it expires in October. Then I'll back everything up and let it expire.
 
cmChimera said:
My iTunes Match subscription ended today. I didn't renew. Everything seems to be functioning as normal. I am still able to download my tracks from iCloud and find the mp3 or m4a in finder. I deleted an album that was matched in iTunes, and then re-added it. I don't have an iPod so I can't test syncing to it, but I can't imagine anything will change.
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This is where you'll be disappointed. If you remove a cloud matched album and add in the Apple Music version, it will no longer sync that file to a non-iOS ipod. Only iOS devices will sync Apple Music albums for offline playback (and desktop iTunes). Be very careful if you start deleting your cloud music and adding in the Apple Music version without doing a backup of your Matched songs.
 
Fantastic - now all of the iTunes Radio stations I created appear to be gone.

Edit: Killed and restarted iTunes - I now again have the "recently played" listing of stations - was gone before.

So, if the iTunes radio stations I've created aren't in the last dozen stations I've played, where would I find them I wonder?

There should be a static listing for those somewhere.

Wow - here's another one. With an individual account, you can only play on one device at a time. So, if I have iTunes playing on my mac, it kicks me out if I play it on my iPhone. So, suddenly my music at home isn't available if I'm out? Yep, thinking I'm going back to match.

Has anyone seen anything stating when they're killing iTunes radio? (or we'll lose that functionality in iTunes match on a certain date?)
 
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