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Apple needs to do away with the iMac

dukebound85

dukebound85

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Seriously why do they work on the iMac.....has to be because of the very first one they made

I ask as
1) who wants an all in one?
2) without an iMac, using laptop parts, Apple could finally focus on a real desktop that isn't underpowered like the mini or too capable like the macpro

Why does apple insist on having the imac stick around? They should have,

Desktop
1) mini
2) xmac or whatever...just not an aio
3) macpro

Laptop
1) air
2) mb
3) mbp

Displays
1) the acd's


Comeon apple, the imac doesnt make sense to me. Why do I need an aio, when I have better screens that I can later upgrade or whatnot down the road without buying a whole new computer? I think apple holds onto the imac for legacy's sake...just let it go PLEASE
 
I like it :eek:

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if (Steve Jobs == alive)
__cout << "iMac is the flagship computer.";
else
__cout << "Maybe an xMac.";

The Macintosh 128k was an all-in-one because Steve didn't want the end-user modifying his hardware.
 
wetrix said:
I'd say everybody who has bought one.
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well there isnt much in between a mino or a pro is there? id wager if you had the headless desktop (which is consistent with their other 2 offerings), it would sell at least as wel, if not better

I ask to you, who wants a huge noisy box taking up desk space or floor space if they have no interest in upgrading parts?
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noisy? this is apple we are talking about

upgrading parts? im sure many would love to upgrade even the hard drive in their imac (....which is kind of an undertaking) if they are running out of space or if it died as one example
 
Cool, quiet, compact, tidy and beautiful.

Do I think there should be a headless mid-range Mac using desktop processors? Yes. Do I think that means the iMac needs to die? Of course not, the iMac is a phenomenal computer icon that is phenomenally successful.
 
I want an iMac as I am sick of having a metal box with a fan in it and when open, lots of empyt space. Im looking to buy an iMac and hope they continue to grow.
 
Some buy a Mac just because it is simple, elegant and works
They aren't into upgrading RAM, HD, video, etc.

For them, the iMac is perfect... all in one... without having to buy components
Walk around the Apple Store and listen to the people buying... they aren't power users

I can see adding something to the line, but why hate on a successful product
No reason to dump it in my opinion

PS... and I love the minimal footprint

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Pyrotechnic said:
I want an iMac as I am sick of having a metal box with a fan in it and when open, lots of empyt space. Im looking to buy an iMac and hope they continue to grow.
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Ah but what if Apple made a nice little desktop( in a variety of flavours) that you could hook up your screen that you have already !
 
MacDawg said:
I can see adding something to the line, but why hate on a successful product
No reason to dump it in my opinion
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because usually, one of the big arguments is that any xmac would eat away imac or mac pro sales

and the mac pro isn't going anywhere imo....and neither is the imac though it should
 
dukebound85 said:
because usually, one of the big arguments is that any xmac would eat away imac or mac pro sales

and the mac pro isn't going anywhere imo....and neither is the imac though it should
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The iMac is a very successful product with a large number of happy customers. It shouldn't "go" anywhere.
 
1) who wants an all in one?
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The iMac is a nice project, I like its all-in-one cleaness. I'd rather buy an all-in-one than a traditional desktop if they were the same price and specs.

2) without an iMac, using laptop parts, Apple could finally focus on a real desktop that isn't underpowered like the mini or too capable like the macpro
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Speaking of real desktops, there is the Mac Pro. However, I think iMac should use desktop parts. Keep the name, keep the concept, but please bring on a mighty Core i7! Make the iMacs a little big and fatter if necessary. I won't carry it around anyway...

Desktop
1) mini
2) xmac or whatever...just not an aio
3) macpro

Laptop
1) air
2) mb
3) mbp
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I think different:

Desktop (axe the MacMini, it's like a notebook with no screen)
1) iMac (with desktop parts)
2) Mac Pro

Laptop
1) netbook (MacBook Air is a great concept, but just too expensive; why not ressurect the iBook name? I find it neat!:cool:)
2) MacBook
3) MacBook Pro
 
I think the iMac suits the users that buy it. It is an alright computer, and offers o.k. value. I do, however, think that apple should introduce the following:

eBook:
-basically a relatively thin, cheap laptop for the average college student

xMac (x being the unknown variable, of course):
-a small, aluminum desktop that offers the user good expandability.

There is this gray area in the middle which apple does not provide. I am saying, there is the overpriced, underpowered mini, then the average iMac, and then the super high end mac pro.

What apple needs is a desktop that fills in the area between average iMac and Mac Pro. There are users out there who wnat just a bit more power.
 
skaertus said:
The iMac is a nice project, I like its all-in-one cleaness. I'd rather buy an all-in-one than a traditional desktop if they were the same price and specs.



Speaking of real desktops, there is the Mac Pro. However, I think iMac should use desktop parts. Keep the name, keep the concept, but please bring on a mighty Core i7! Make the iMacs a little big and fatter if necessary. I won't carry it around anyway...



I think different:

Desktop (axe the MacMini, it's like a notebook with no screen)
1) iMac (with desktop parts)
2) Mac Pro

Laptop
1) netbook (MacBook Air is a great concept, but just too expensive; why not ressurect the iBook name? I find it neat!:cool:)
2) MacBook
3) MacBook Pro
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...this line up sounds a bit more interesting:D:apple::D
 
In order for them to bring out an expandable computer, Apple needs to reinvent upgradability in a consumer desktop. Put graphics cards, hard drives, and CPUs incased in simple modules that are ridiculously easy to install. This is the only way Apple will recoup costs when people decide to upgrade instead of buy new computers. But it can be done and if anyone can do it, Apple can. But I doubt they would do something like this.
 
Tallest Skil said:
Addendum: Killing the computer line that saved your company from bankruptcy is kind of a bad idea, too. :D
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+1

QFT

Right on.


I think they should just add the xMac into the lineup and cut the specs of the Mac Pro in half so as not to cannibalize the Mac Pro sales......

You know, the things that we've been talking about since..... 2001.

Outsider said:
In order for them to bring out an expandable computer, Apple needs to reinvent upgradability in a consumer desktop. Put graphics cards, hard drives, and CPUs incased in simple encased modules that are ridiculously easy to install. This is the only way Apple will recoup costs when people decide to upgrade instead of buy new computers. But it can be done and if anyone can do it, Apple can. But I doubt they would do something like this.
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I agree only because Apple will try to reinvent the wheel.
 
Apple currently dominates the all-in-one PC market. It wouldn't be smart to get out of a market that they dominate.

- Add the xMac? Sure. They'll add to their market share and please a lot of customers (I'm no expert, but I don't see this happening any time soon).

- Get rid of the iMac? I don't think so. Loads of schools like to have all-in-one computers for the sake of simplicity, and they all buy iMacs. There's certainly no other all-in-one PCs that sell as much as the iMac. There are few (if any) other all-in-ones that are talked about as much as the iMac, So I think it would be smart for Apple to continue improving it (I may be a biased opinion, though, because I'm waiting to buy one as soon as I can).

If Apple replaced their iMac with an xMac, I feel they would completely lose dominance of any PC market.
 
skaertus said:
Keep the name, keep the concept, but please bring on a mighty Core i7!
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Excuse me, but what the **** do you need a core i7 for that a c2d won't do?

edit: I'm all for competition, and technology pushing the limits, but do you really need it in today's software market?
 
The iMac has been the only successful computer in the all-in-one form factor in years. Compaq, HP, Gateway, Sony and Dell have tried repeatedly to have a successful all-in-one, and the products they've offered have been non-starters.

However, at this point you have to wonder if the iMac's success is artificially inflated due to the fact that no other mainstream Apple consumer desktop exists.

For most Mac users who want a desktop, it's the only choice. The Mac Pro is a workstation-class machine and priced accordingly, and the Mac mini is home theater/switcher machine that hasn't been updated in two years.

I don't think the iMac should be discontinued, but I would welcome a xMac mid-tower consumer desktop that uses desktop parts.

$1500 is not a bargain basement price point. They offered the PowerMac for years at that price. Apple could easily offer a Core i7-based mini-tower complete with fancy chassis for that price including their ridiculous 20% margin.

What's a 920 retail for now? $280-ish. It's probably less than they're currently paying for the mobile chip in the $1499 iMac.

Cheaper and faster processors + cheaper and faster motherboard + cheaper and better graphics card = powerful, single processor xMac with a nice profit margin

Sales of matching Apple displays will also probably go up.

The scientists and engineers who need a dual processor workstation will still buy the Mac Pro.
 
If they did this instead of 'thinking different' they would be thinking the same as every PC maker out there.
 
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