I'm disagree!
They look at Apple though when they designed it. Look at the way the display get tilt behind the chassis when opening.With kind regards,
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Apple, please give us a shrunken laptop like dell!
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I'm disagree!
They look at Apple though when they designed it. Look at the way the display get tilt behind the chassis when opening.With kind regards,
Bas
dudes, the dell is not as ugly as you think. Okay, it may not be the most elegant but think $350 versus $1800 and I know whether I will be spending that dough there. Okay?
Kind of what I'm looking for, although more likely I'll go with the msi wind and osx86. Unless, of course, apple surprises me and actually releases this type of computer themselves.
People are flocking to netbooks not because they dont know what they want, but because some people just want a cheap way to browse the internet without having to pay for all the other crap they dont need to just simply open internet explorer.
I'll be waiting for your review.
Web browsing devices have taken my interest and this foray from Dell and many others looks like the start of something. I'll wait for the second generation.
I like the look. It's pretty good for a netbook.
The Acer Aspire One is the one I'm going for. £250 with a 120Gb HDD, 1.6Ghz Atom and 1Gb RAM. In white, it looks pretty decent. Not as good as the Dell IMO, but still alright. It also run OSX (hacked, I must admit. You need to switch the WiFi card with your own, but a natively supported internal one is £8.99 on eBay). It comes with Linux. Joy.
A £250 device would be the equivalent of a $400 retail price ($500 by the exchange rate, then -$100 UK tax). I doubt there's much of a margin on these things (low margin, high volume). If Apple were to do this, they'd have to either give away an OSX license, or at least not charge more than $50 for it. Get to $500, and you've priced yourself out of the netbook explosion.
The Atoms at the moment have the x86-64 instruction set disabled, although I think the chips do actually support it. Apple should be able to get that enabled, so they can keep there only-64-bit product range (even though nobody would run anything that actually needs 64-bits on such a device). I personally think Apple will launch such a device within the next 12 months. It's a large (and rapidly growing) market -- I read 20% of the laptop market, which is about 10% of the entire PC market -- and it's all based on doing limited features very well, which is Apple's entire product philosophy.
I'm going to wait until October to buy my Aspire One. If Apple have released an under-£300 netbook by then, I'll go for it. Anything more than that, and Apple don't understand the market, and I'll get the Aspire One.
The Acer Aspire One is the one I'm going for. £250 with a 120Gb HDD, 1.6Ghz Atom and 1Gb RAM. In white, it looks pretty decent. Not as good as the Dell IMO, but still alright. It also run OSX (hacked, I must admit. You need to switch the WiFi card with your own, but a natively supported internal one is £8.99 on eBay). It comes with Linux. Joy.
A £250 device would be the equivalent of a $400 retail price ($500 by the exchange rate, then -$100 UK tax). I doubt there's much of a margin on these things (low margin, high volume). If Apple were to do this, they'd have to either give away an OSX license, or at least not charge more than $50 for it. Get to $500, and you've priced yourself out of the netbook explosion.
The Atoms at the moment have the x86-64 instruction set disabled, although I think the chips do actually support it. Apple should be able to get that enabled, so they can keep there only-64-bit product range (even though nobody would run anything that actually needs 64-bits on such a device). I personally think Apple will launch such a device within the next 12 months. It's a large (and rapidly growing) market -- I read 20% of the laptop market, which is about 10% of the entire PC market -- and it's all based on doing limited features very well, which is Apple's entire product philosophy.
I'm going to wait until October to buy my Aspire One. If Apple have released an under-£300 netbook by then, I'll go for it. Anything more than that, and Apple don't understand the market, and I'll get the Aspire One.
It's not an HD, it's solid state, and that's how things are now with SSDs.
Secondly, it's not really meant to be a main computer, although I guess it could be with an HDD in it. Some netbooks have 120 GB drives in it and such.
And personally, I think it looks pretty good. In terms of appearance, I think this is 2nd to the HP version, while the Acer Aspire One is 3rd.
I agree.
However, it's not as simple as that. Some people have a main/laptop already, but want to take the smaller one when they KNOW they're not going to need the full sized laptop. I know I want a 15" MBP as my next computer, and yet this Dell, with Linux, looks like a perfect fit for many situations. Do I need the DVD drive if all I want to do is view documents and email? Do I even need my laptop bag? This thing fits in a really small "man bag".
And Dell is being very smart about this. They're going to let you buy one of these for $99 if you buy an XPS laptop (or was it desktop?). Like I said, people with laptops want one of these as well. I think I read that on Engadget, so I don't know if that's just a future plan, or if that's currently on the Dell website now.
What they need to do is release a 12" MBP, with a similar design as the Powerbook G4.
With a small notebook like that, you don't need widescreen. Take the design of the 12" Powerbook, make it a little thinner and a lot more powerful.
End of story.
Of course they won't, though.
With a small notebook like that, you don't need widescreen. Take the design of the 12" Powerbook, make it a little thinner and a lot more powerful.
End of story.
Of course they won't, though.
I've been looking at this too as this is exactly the kind of devise I want to buy, if Apple bring one out and it's not hugely more expensive then I'll jump straight in! MacBook Mini awesome.
I really like the look of that laptop, especially the white version. I will probably get that, or the MSI Wind to replace my 7" Asus EEE PC but I'm holding out to see if Apple releases a similar type version next month.
I think a lot of people are missing the piont of these - they're meant to be small as a side computer along with a main one, so you can carry them around wherever, because they are really small
Second, those specs are killer for the price and size - Atom + SSD HD + your choice of Linux or Windows, along with some that have much larger HDD's
I know lots of people that use their computers only for typing documents and using the internet for things like Facebook - and these are perfect for them, as well as those who must have a small and affordable device that they can use on a plane or coffee shop
And the best part is, so many companies are now in on this (Asus, MSI, Acer, Dell, etc.) that price is getting better everyday!
Second, those specs are killer for the price and size - Atom + SSD HD + your choice of Linux or Windows, along with some that have much larger HDD's
I know lots of people that use their computers only for typing documents and using the internet for things like Facebook - and these are perfect for them, as well as those who must have a small and affordable device that they can use on a plane or coffee shop
And the best part is, so many companies are now in on this (Asus, MSI, Acer, Dell, etc.) that price is getting better everyday!
And how often do you go look at the bottom of a laptop?
A lot of the nitpicking I find around here is simply because the other product is a Dell, HP, MS, etc. etc.
I can carry around my 17" MBP with no problems, perhaps some people need to work out?
You cannot put this fugly thing in your pocket anyway, so you would need a bag to carry it with other things, thus any difference in "portability" between that and a fully featured MBP is nil for those who are not wimps.
Keep in mind MBP is 1" thin all around. Thinner than the wannabe.
If you only carry your laptop, sure. I couldn't carry the 17" in my mobile day along with everything else, and thinness - 1" as opposed to a half-inch or so more - is irrelevant. Bendiness or dentiness in a mobile mode *is* very relevant, and the MBP's have plenty of that.
I think if you actually had a much lighter machine apart from the 17", you might see it's value.
yeah sure i can carry a 17" or even my 13" mb around with me too. try biking with it everywhere. try carrying everything else with it on a bike too. or in a briefcase.
it becomes a hassle. and not only that. it becomes a liability having an expensive machine with you too.
i plan on getting one of the netbooks but i've yet to decide on with. the contenders are an Eee, MSI Cloud? (i think thats its name) or the Dell. the HP is nice, but for some reason i'm just put off.
its a small computer, fits easier in my bag, and works well enough for the on-the-go uses.
Come on, don't fall for it. You end up losing the discount on the more expensive machine if you want to use that promotion. One way or another you will be paying $350 to $450 for that machine. A bit expensive for an internet access and document viewer machine.
However, if that is all you want from a computer, then it saves you a lot. Even my mom needs a lot of hard disk space to save photos, so I don't get the attraction behind these machines. They are not as small as an iPod, either, so they are not exactly ideal for traveling, either.
Because if I got one of these machines, I wouldn't move all my photos to it.
This machine is looking better and better. It seems that most of the complaints are coming from people who don't even understand how this machine is meant to be used, which isn't so bad then.
Just as an example of how they may be useful. I'm going to Japan in 3 weeks. I'd love to have one of these for my trip, because I really don't need to bring my MacBook. My MacBook isn't that big, but if I can just fit such a tiny laptop into my "man bag" (which I plan on folding up and putting into my backpack), or my DSLR bag (smaller than a normal backpack), then I wouldn't even need my laptop backpack. That's one less bag. I'd have my backpack for some clothes, my DSLR bag, and that's all. Now I'll have to bring my Crumpler Sinking Barge which will hold my laptop, DSLR, and other stuff. Too bad it's huge.
I think all these machines have a weak point. I don't like how the best configuration cannot be configured with Linux. Only the cheapest unit comes with Linux, but can be upgraded to be like the higher end machine for a higher price than the WinXP version. Also, no HDD option.
This machine is looking better and better. It seems that most of the complaints are coming from people who don't even understand how this machine is meant to be used, which isn't so bad then.
Just as an example of how they may be useful. I'm going to Japan in 3 weeks. I'd love to have one of these for my trip, because I really don't need to bring my MacBook. My MacBook isn't that big, but if I can just fit such a tiny laptop into my "man bag" (which I plan on folding up and putting into my backpack), or my DSLR bag (smaller than a normal backpack), then I wouldn't even need my laptop backpack. That's one less bag. I'd have my backpack for some clothes, my DSLR bag, and that's all. Now I'll have to bring my Crumpler Sinking Barge which will hold my laptop, DSLR, and other stuff. Too bad it's huge.
I think all these machines have a weak point. I don't like how the best configuration cannot be configured with Linux. Only the cheapest unit comes with Linux, but can be upgraded to be like the higher end machine for a higher price than the WinXP version. Also, no HDD option.
The Netbook market shouldn't be that hard to understand. The typical buyer already has a "full size" machine, and many have both a desktop and a "regular" laptop.
I have a 9" Acer Aspire One (120gb), an Eee 1000H (10", 6-cell batt). My buddy has a 12" Powerbook. For portability, the AAO is the best, but the battery sucks. The Eee is still tiny and the 6-cell battery lasts forever. The Powerbook looks like a billboard compared to these things.
Seriously, I love these 'netbooks' and they are practically disposable. I got the AAO from Best Buy for $249. So cheap and practical. No, it's not a Mac, I understand that, but for true "anywhere" computing, there is no substitute (unless you are dropping a paycheck on an Air).
Apple really could compete in this red hot netbook market. It's the future of mobile computing, IMO.
Seriously, I love these 'netbooks' and they are practically disposable. I got the AAO from Best Buy for $249. So cheap and practical. No, it's not a Mac, I understand that, but for true "anywhere" computing, there is no substitute (unless you are dropping a paycheck on an Air).
Apple really could compete in this red hot netbook market. It's the future of mobile computing, IMO.