Apple Pro Employee Salaries

[lord patton]

If this philosophy PhD candidate has been offered multiple promotions, then I guarantee you his bosses don't give a **** what kind of degree he has. They want someone they can depend on, and they'll pay for it.

If he were to continue in the field, yes, there is a chance it could haunt him. When you are recruited for higher level executive positions, the head-hunters and HR reps will likely check on your resume—it's just a simple call to the registrar.

But if he were to tell his bosses tomorrow that he lied on the application, they'd tell him to shut up and get back to work. Good management does not throw away good workers... they know everything they need to about his ethics from how he's performed for them since the day he was hired.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

If this philosophy PhD candidate has been offered multiple promotions, then I guarantee you his bosses don't give a **** what kind of degree he has. They want someone they can depend on, and they'll pay for it.

If he were to continue in the field, yes, there is a chance it could haunt him. When you are recruited for higher level executive positions, the head-hunters and HR reps will likely check on your resume—it's just a simple call to the registrar.

But if he were to tell his bosses tomorrow that he lied on the application, they'd tell him to shut up and get back to work. Good management does not throw away good workers... they know everything they need to about his ethics from how he's performed for them since the day he was hired.

it might depend on the career field. In mine reputation is everything and being found out that some one lied on their resume is a huge dent in the person reputation. Even if the person was a great employee the lack of integerty there is enough for grounds of firing.

If att ever gets into hard times they can lay him off and not have to pay unemployment on him. So if times get hard might as well remove a one employee cost and not have to pay any severance package. For some one of his cost that would be around 100k a year saving right there. All his salary and benifit cost are now saved. (compared to other employee where you still have to pay a certain % of the salary and benefits for a while to come)

You will be surprise at how much stuff get by and they never beck check it. They assume the person is telling the truth in the interviews. It just speaks volumes about a person if they pull a stunt like that. To me the integrity of the person and all his work is now in question. But like I said I am going into a field where reputation is everything.

 

[robbieduncan]

To be honest all entry level jobs will pay little. People fresh out of college make enough to pay rent and their student loans. My advice would be to get a job doing some computer stuff while you are in school. That way you have work experience.

You must be joking. Graduate with a real CS degree (i.e. be able to program in 3+ languages, do proper software design and analyse the system at a mathematical level) and you should be able to earn a decent salary straight away. When I graduated (7 years ago) I was earning about the same as either of my parents from day-1.

Edit to add: What I've heard is that Apple employees are not amongst the highest paid the work demands can be quite high.

 

[CalBoy]

You must be joking. Graduate with a real CS degree (i.e. be able to program in 3+ languages, do proper software design and analyse the system at a mathematical level) and you should be able to earn a decent salary straight away. When I graduated (7 years ago) I was earning about the same as either of my parents from day-1.

Starting salaries have calmed down since then (if you'll remember, 7 years ago was in the 'bubble').

Nonetheless, a programmer will have a starting salary that is much higher than the average salary of most average workers, so it isn't as bad as it seems.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

You must be joking. Graduate with a real CS degree (i.e. be able to program in 3+ languages, do proper software design and analyse the system at a mathematical level) and you should be able to earn a decent salary straight away. When I graduated (7 years ago) I was earning about the same as either of my parents from day-1.

Edit to add: What I've heard is that Apple employees are not amongst the highest paid the work demands can be quite high.

I would be surprised that apple employees are paid less and the work is high demand. Apple can get away with it because they are apple and they can fill a lot of those spots with people who just want to work for them and pay is not high on the list. While I do expect their rates are competivie I do think they are on the lower side of the scale.
Apple is going to be among the few companies after mac programmers and they get to play with the lack of a better term "fan boy" card to pay a low side.

I do know CS guys get paid more than I do starting. Also remember when some one paying a very high starting they own you.

 

[kellah]

If you're good and you're ambitious you can definitely get 40-50k right outta school with a CS degree.

 

[CalBoy]

If you're good and you're ambitious you can definitely get 40-50k right outta school with a CS degree.

That's a terrible salary in most tech-rich areas. The cost of living in the Bay Area for rent, insurance, etc is above $34,000 alone. Add student loan debt and the fact that you want to live comfortably, and the salary looks sad from that perspective. Heck, teachers in the Bay Area (if they're in a decent district) usually start at around $45k. (just to put some perspective on things).

 

[illegalprelude]

You must be joking. Graduate with a real CS degree (i.e. be able to program in 3+ languages, do proper software design and analyse the system at a mathematical level) and you should be able to earn a decent salary straight away. When I graduated (7 years ago) I was earning about the same as either of my parents from day-1.

Edit to add: What I've heard is that Apple employees are not amongst the highest paid the work demands can be quite high.

its true

 

[miken79]

what are you smoking if you think that. I graduated in Dec and yes I am looking for a job and for me it is $45k/year plus benefits before I even will talk with you and I am not making any insane demands there. That is below average for my degree starting. 50-52k being more in the norm. I have friends who will not talk to a company for less than 75k and that is not insane to demand. that is the competitive rate for his major.

For CS I would be expecting at least 50k a year but I do not know that major as well as others. I do expect it to be higher than mine.

As for my personally major it is Construction Engineering Technology. I am in the college of Engineering so that should explain why much higher than average expecting starting pay.

One factor is your current location. My state's job market for Computer Science is very low. Therefore, there are not very many high paying entry level jobs for this field. However, leaving state would bring better opportunities for me. The last time I checked, the national average salary for a CompSci degree was in the $50k range. Unfortunately, I am currently below that average.