Apple raised the price of the 4K 21'' iMac from £1199 to £1449! LOL!

[macmee]

Canadian prices have been going up since our dollar went down to the US dollar too.

And again it's not as if we are personally earning more money so the end result is that macs are just more expensive now, and apple increasing prices the other day really just prices out tons and tons of brits, canadians and ausies especially.

 

[Magwin]

That's 250 F****** pounds increase for a product that was released a year ago!

Apple should've at least waited until they released the new iMacs to correct the prices.

You do understand that you are suffering from Dunning Kruger, Apple did not raise the prices, the pound is losing value. Is this a difficult prospect to understand, I can tell you that the iMacs have not moved in price in my native Sweden, in Norway the iMac got NK1000 cheaper.
It is also unfathomable for me that someone so extremely stupid can afford a Mac, that's just wrong. Or as it happens, can not afford it because of the Brexit vote which sodomized your currency. And you used your democracy to vote this yourselves. You do get this?

 

[fat jez]

Or as it happens, can not afford it because of the Brexit vote which sodomized your currency. And you used your democracy to vote this yourselves. You do get this?

Those of us who voted remain do. Nissan have just been given a promise/deal in the event that tariffs make it uneconomic to stay in the U.K. Other car manufacturers are now looking for the same. How sustainable is that model?

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

But the rate change is not real, it is not a real reflection of the economy or market. It is a temporary blip. I was and still am against Brexit for this reason; uncertainty.

Apple is playing a very dangerous game by reacting to temporary currency rates as so they drop the prices in the UK when the rates return to normal or the £ gets stronger?

Of course the rate change is real, and Apple changes prices based on currency fluctuations regularly. If you are buying dollars for pounds now, you will be paying 20-25% more now than you would prior to brexit. These are real world markets, not some made up magic story. Apple would be loosing millions of dollars if they didn't change the prices based on real world exchange rates. Wether you think Apple shouldn't earn money or not is a totally different issue.

As brexit is something completely new, the markets have reacted negatively to it. Don't expect the pound to increase much the next couple of years, until a good time after UK has exited the EU, and the rammifications are clear.

Ie. don't expect cheaper Macs in the UK until they all run on ARM processors and we have iPhone 12s.

 

[Taz Mangus]

I don't know what's sadder, the fact that Apple raised the prices by 500 pounds on old products, or the fact some losers in this thread want to teach me that this happened because the pound is losing value!

Wow like we don't know this happened because of that LOL

All you have to do is educate yourself on the topic instead of being in denial and calling people names which, by the way, causes you to loose all credibility.

http://www.game-debate.com/news/207...rs-raise-prices-in-uk-following-brexit-result

https://www.3ait.co.uk/blog/manufacturers-rise-prices-following-brexit/

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...te-deals-blow-camera-prices-set-rise-15-86029

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/brexit-fin...r-prices-following-eu-referendum-vote-1568123

 

[pat500000]

Meh...just accept it. Not surprised at all.

 

[294307]

I'll be surprised if they don't lower their prices in the next couple of months after a sales drop. Only way to tell Apple it's unacceptable is for enough people not to buy.

 

[fat jez]

I'll be surprised if they don't lower their prices in the next couple of months after a sales drop. Only way to tell Apple it's unacceptable is for enough people not to buy.

I would say unlikely. Apple's prices are worked in dollars, converted to local currency and then any local taxes are added. They want to maintain that margin globally. Cutting prices would be a drastic measure to chase sales.

 

[Rivaba]

You do understand that you are suffering from Dunning Kruger, Apple did not raise the prices, the pound is losing value. Is this a difficult prospect to understand, I can tell you that the iMacs have not moved in price in my native Sweden, in Norway the iMac got NK1000 cheaper.

The price has indeed been adjusted in Sweden and by a large margin. Would've saved hundreds of dollars on an iMac had I bought it before the Macbook Pro event.

 

[gnasher729]

With price increases to this extent ? I don't think so.

The exchange rate dropped from UK£1 = US$1.50 to UK£1 = US$1.20. A seller who wants to get the same amount in US$ needs to raise prices by 25%.

Let's take this calculation a bit further: Before Brexit, we were told that the UK paid about £350 million per week to the EU, which would all be paid to the NHS instead. That was $525 million per week. Now it turns out to be only £250 million per week, of which about £150 million come straight back, and with the exchange rate dropped it's about $120 million per week. Of which none goes to the NHS.
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Apple is playing a very dangerous game by reacting to temporary currency rates as so they drop the prices in the UK when the rates return to normal or the £ gets stronger?

They have done that in the past, but it seems it's a rare occasion. And what makes you think the pound drop is temporary?

 

[294307]

They have done that in the past, but it seems it's a rare occasion. And what makes you think the pound drop is temporary?

It will recover in time. The pound is weak because of the uncertainty that an exit from the EU brings not just to the UK but to the rest of the European Union. Time sorts these things out.

 

[animatedude]

All you have to do is educate yourself on the topic instead of being in denial and calling people names which, by the way, causes you to loose all credibility.

http://www.game-debate.com/news/207...rs-raise-prices-in-uk-following-brexit-result

https://www.3ait.co.uk/blog/manufacturers-rise-prices-following-brexit/

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...te-deals-blow-camera-prices-set-rise-15-86029

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/brexit-fin...r-prices-following-eu-referendum-vote-1568123

I don't quite get why some of you think i don't get the impact of Brexit on Pound value!

Did i say some thing about that? do i have to scream and shout that I GET THE FACT THEY CHANGED THE PRICES BECAUSE OF THE VALUE OF POUNDS!

I understand they raised the prices because of that, i don't live under a rock!

Jesus.

 

[cube]

For some people it might be better a Mac mini + a cheap 4KTV

 

[294307]

For some people it might be better a Mac mini + a cheap 4KTV

Unfortunately, the current Mac mini doesn't support 4K at anything above 30 Hz, and only over Thunderbolt. A monitor or TV running at 30 Hz is not a terribly good experience.

 

[cube]

Unfortunately, the Mac mini doesn't support 4K at anything above 30 Hz, and only over Thunderbolt.

I have used 4K@30Hz for about a year and it is not that bad.

I use a Club3D DP 1.2 -> HDMI 2.0 converter

With 2011 MBP.

A 42" 4K SEIKI costs 279 pounds at Currys. But it has only one HDMI 2.0 port it seems.

 

[294307]

I have used 4K@30Hz for about a year and it is not that bad.

I use a Club3D DP 1.2 -> HDMI 2.0 converter

With 2011 MBP.

A 42" 4K SEIKI costs 279 pounds at Currys. But it has only one HDMI 2.0 port it seems.

Ugh, you didn't buy it from Currys did you? Anything is better than buying from a Dixons Retail store.

 

[cube]

Ugh, you didn't buy it from Currys did you? Anything is better than buying from a Dixons Retail store.

I just saw they had this one which was cheaper than anything at Argos (and I saw an LG at around 450 pounds there).

I have a 48" Samsung Series 8 3D curved SUHD as monitor (a bit smaller might be better).

Now I built an eGPU for 60Hz.

 

[varian55zx]

For some people it might be better a Mac mini + a cheap 4KTV

Those Mac Minis are SOOOOO weak and slow. Talk about a truly weak computer.

The 5K iMac is a gorgeous, elegant, and power machine. I say there is no comparison.

 

[Taz Mangus]

I don't quite get why some of you think i don't get the impact of Brexit on Pound value!

Did i say some thing about that? do i have to scream and shout that I GET THE FACT THEY CHANGED THE PRICES BECAUSE OF THE VALUE OF POUNDS!

I understand they raised the prices because of that, i don't live under a rock!

Jesus.

And you had to resort to calling people names. So, yes you came across like you lived under a rock.

 

[cube]

Those Mac Minis are SOOOOO weak and slow. Talk about a truly weak computer.

The 5K iMac is a gorgeous, elegant, and power machine. I say there is no comparison.

For some people it might be better weak computer + real estate + [3D] [HDR] [Smart] 4K TV

 

[Magwin]

The price has indeed been adjusted in Sweden and by a large margin. Would've saved hundreds of dollars on an iMac had I bought it before the Macbook Pro event.

I did not see that raise, maybe on the small kids iMacs? Nevertheless, this is an adjustment of currency. I have noticed a lot of you have a hard time grasping the concept. Which I think is hilarious when I show this thread to my collegues.
They laugh so hard.
So, just to be clear; the prices did not get raised, the fluctuating swedish currency is a **** currency which just like the pound has shed a lot of value against the dollar. This is a calculated move from Riksbanken to make all of our business exports cheap to people dealing in $. However, the opposite then occurs, and imported goods get more expensive.
I think you talk about this in school in 6th grade or something. It is really, really easy.

 

[Daveyoasis]

For all those who are arguing the £ is losing value at a nation state/business level, how do you think this is transferred to the everyday man in the street?

The £ is artificially low due to external factors, it is reacting to caution in the market rather than being a true reflection of the worth of the £ and the British economy. People in the UK are no better or worse off at the moment. True that apple may not be making as the profit margin on their goods in the UK that previous years but i believe they are hiding behind the weak £ (have they even confirmed this?). The fact is, Apple have raised their prices by 12% on a product that is not costing them 12% more to make and the British people are not 12% better off in their pocket. I dont see how this makes economic sense for Apple. In my view they have raised prices on all other macs so to not damage sales of the new macbook pros. Lets face it, you go to the apple shop and see the new Macbook pro for £2300ish for the base specs or you can have a 5k 27" iMac for the old price of £1600, i know what i would take.

Also, going by a lot of views in this threat people seem to think the $ is the base currency to Apple to which their products are priced. What happens when/if the $ crashes? are Apple products going to be cheap around the world with their prices slashed as by some on here, that is the theory of it. Obviously notwithstanding the fact 99% of apple products are not made where $ is the base currency, it would make more sense to see apple prices fluctuate according to the Chinese currency.

Personally, i am lucky that i have a decent job and if i wanted a new iMac tomorrow the price wouldnt be an issue in terms of affordability, however, as a consumer i would be very adverse to paying 12% more than it was a week ago for 2/3 year old tech.

I can see the justification in raising prices of the new products - they are new, have to cover R&D and new manufacturing process; i have not issue with this. However, the old lines... no.

 

[fat jez]

For all those who are arguing the £ is losing value at a nation state/business level, how do you think this is transferred to the everyday man in the street?

The £ is artificially low due to external factors, it is reacting to caution in the market rather than being a true reflection of the worth of the £ and the British economy. People in the UK are no better or worse off at the moment.

The weak pound hits the everyday man in the street very simply. Things cost him more. We buy our fuel in dollars, so fuel prices are going up. That hits every single item we buy, either directly or indirectly as goods are transported around the UK. The price I pay per litre has increased since the exit vote (2p per litre in September) and is predicted to increase by another 3p per litre over the next month.

The you have the cost of importing the goods we buy in. Witness the recent argument between Unilever and Tesco. Tesco wanted to keep prices lower, Unilever want to increase them as their costs are increasing and profits dropping due to a weak pound. Want some beans on toast for lunch? Most of the beans are imported from North America and paid for in dollars. Then where does the wheat come from that goes into making the bread?

So yes, people are worse off and it's going to get worse. But we're not earning any more.

 

[Rivaba]

I did not see that raise, maybe on the small kids iMacs? Nevertheless, this is an adjustment of currency. I have noticed a lot of you have a hard time grasping the concept. Which I think is hilarious when I show this thread to my collegues.
They laugh so hard.
So, just to be clear; the prices did not get raised, the fluctuating swedish currency is a **** currency which just like the pound has shed a lot of value against the dollar. This is a calculated move from Riksbanken to make all of our business exports cheap to people dealing in $. However, the opposite then occurs, and imported goods get more expensive.
I think you talk about this in school in 6th grade or something. It is really, really easy.

Childish tone aside, that is corrrect. However, you can't say that on the one hand and then state that the price has not moved in Sweden. A price adjustment is a price adjustment regardless if it is due to a higher price point or an adjustment to currency valuation.

 

[Magwin]

For all those who are arguing the £ is losing value at a nation state/business level, how do you think this is transferred to the everyday man in the street?

The £ is artificially low due to external factors, it is reacting to caution in the market rather than being a true reflection of the worth of the £ and the British economy. People in the UK are no better or worse off at the moment. True that apple may not be making as the profit margin on their goods in the UK that previous years but i believe they are hiding behind the weak £ (have they even confirmed this?). The fact is, Apple have raised their prices by 12% on a product that is not costing them 12% more to make and the British people are not 12% better off in their pocket. I dont see how this makes economic sense for Apple. In my view they have raised prices on all other macs so to not damage sales of the new macbook pros. Lets face it, you go to the apple shop and see the new Macbook pro for £2300ish for the base specs or you can have a 5k 27" iMac for the old price of £1600, i know what i would take.

Also, going by a lot of views in this threat people seem to think the $ is the base currency to Apple to which their products are priced. What happens when/if the $ crashes? are Apple products going to be cheap around the world with their prices slashed as by some on here, that is the theory of it. Obviously notwithstanding the fact 99% of apple products are not made where $ is the base currency, it would make more sense to see apple prices fluctuate according to the Chinese currency.

Personally, i am lucky that i have a decent job and if i wanted a new iMac tomorrow the price wouldnt be an issue in terms of affordability, however, as a consumer i would be very adverse to paying 12% more than it was a week ago for 2/3 year old tech.

I can see the justification in raising prices of the new products - they are new, have to cover R&D and new manufacturing process; i have not issue with this. However, the old lines... no.

Chinese currency is pegged against the $, so that would not make a lot of sense. Furthermore, what you are saying is that an American company should subsidize Apple computers for the British because they themselves opted for exit out of EU.
"We are not better off" do you think a capitalistic market takes that into account?

What you want is a subsidized Apple Store, only for the British market. Rest of Europe is going "told you so", but you now have re

Childish tone aside, that is corrrect. However, you can't say that on the one hand and then state that the price has not moved in Sweden. A price adjustment is a price adjustment regardless if it is due to a higher price point or an adjustment to currency valuation.

Stubborn tone aside - this is not about semantics.
The Apple iMac costs the same in the US as it did before they raised Brit prices. Mic drop.