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I think its good that apple sticks with their products, even if it has a small group of users they always are loyal. Now all I need is a digital camera so I can actually take pictures and justify actually looking at aperture! :p
 
treblah said:
You anti-ThinkSecret people make me laugh. :rolleyes:

Why? Because they're often wrong and this story was pretty malicious.

treblah said:
If you read Gruber's piece he hints that the TS source was probably the one manager who got fired. So yeah, they probably posted some biased report by an ex-employee who was mad at his dismissal.

BUT, without any ThinkSecret report there would have been no discussion at all!
Gruber, more than likely, wouldn't have gone sleuthing without the original report. And Blake Seely's blog post would have never gotten a second thought.

And none of it would have been necessary because there was actually nothing to discuss in the first place.

treblah said:
Remember, Apple rumor 'journalism' isn't some farking absolute science. What would you prefer: one or two definite reports a year or a steady flow of interesting reports to discuss?

What a sick joke. Well don't pursue a career in PR or MarCom then dude. This slanted TS article was in no way a good thing for Apple and Aperture. A "story" like that gets picked up and repeated at light speed across the net and "proof by repeated assertion" comes into play... Even here it was made page 1 with the little innocent throwaway by arn of "this could negatively impact sales, so hopefully they double checked their sources"

Shameful.
 
treblah said:
You anti-ThinkSecret people make me laugh. :rolleyes:

If you read Gruber's piece he hints that the TS source was probably the one manager who got fired. So yeah, they probably posted some biased report by an ex-employee who was mad at his dismissal.

BUT, without any ThinkSecret report there would have been no discussion at all!
Gruber, more than likely, wouldn't have gone sleuthing without the original report. And Blake Seely's blog post would have never gotten a second thought.

Remember, Apple rumor 'journalism' isn't some farking absolute science. What would you prefer: one or two definite reports a year or a steady flow of interesting reports to discuss?

It's not just biased reporting, it's heavy-handed, misleading writing and handling of biased information that Gruber is taking to task in the first piece.
 
devman said:
Why? Because they're often wrong and this story was pretty malicious.



And none of it would have been necessary because there was actually nothing to discuss in the first place.



What a sick joke. Well don't pursue a career in PR or MarCom then dude. This slanted TS article was in no way a good thing for Apple and Aperture. A "story" like that gets picked up and repeated at light speed across the net and "proof by repeated assertion" comes into play... Even here it was made page 1 with the little innocent throwaway by arn of "this could negatively impact sales, so hopefully they double checked their sources"

Shameful.

It was a slow news week, we all were hoping for something and TS actually gave us something to think of.

I however agree that it wasnt a good article, my gran always said: "dont believe anything you hear, dont believe anything you read and only believe half of what you see" With the internet age this is becoming more and more true.
 
Rower_CPU said:
It's not just biased reporting, it's heavy-handed, misleading writing and handling of biased information that Gruber is taking to task in the first piece.

So MacRumors is no longer going to repost what TS reports? :rolleyes:
 
Except being happy to hear that Apple is not dropping Aperture, there was no difference for me with this update :eek:
 
suntzu said:
I totally agree! Aperture has forced me to evaluate how I take pictures. It makes the saying of "Trash in, trash out" very true. Photoshop has become a crutch for a lot of digital photographers out there.

I have been doing the same-- it is very similar to the "old" days when I was a student shooting film, every shot cost $$ (that I didn't have) so I worked very hard at making every shot as good as possible.

With the advent of digital SLRs, the "film" is essentially free and I found myself reverting to "shoot first, fix later" mode --- definitely not the way to go. Photoshop is a wonderful program, but it is a terrible time sink -- having to "fix" an appreciable number of your shots will grind your workflow into the ground. Not that I'm no longer a student, my time = money, so I try to avoid Photoshop. This weekend I took my teenager macro shooting and took the opportunity to spend serious time discussing composition and exposure with her before every shot (like my father taught me 30 years ago). Came home, reviewed everything via Aperture on the Quad -- and barely spent any time post-processing in PS at all -- except for the ones she wanted to "play" with. It's all very film-like.

As I commented way back when in the original Aperture thread when it was announced -- Apple really chose a clever niche with this program, the culling/organization/review process was not covered by any other program in such a focused manner. Just look at what Adobe did -- I've been using their products forever (still have PS floppies for goodness' sake) and I don't remember them setting up a year-long public beta like they have with Lightroom (which obviously was well behind Aperture). Yes, their implementation was lacking at first -- I couldn't really use Aperture until 1.1 because the RAW implementation for my camera was lacking -- but now it is much, much better and I recently bought a MBP to use Aperture while traveling.

I'm looking forward to future iterations.

JT
 
joshuawaire said:
Leave it to ThinkSecret to get it wrong again. The product manager for Aperture has been posting in the product's forum on Apple's discussion board for weeks now---so I figured TS was completely wrong.

Anyways, it's good to see Apple announcing continued development and support for Aperture. It's still in its early stages, but the UI is very nice (especially compared to Adobe Lightroom).

how about this conspiracy theory. thinksecret did know what happened. but because their mole didn't want to be known, the person (or ts) deliberately changed part of the story.
 
JCT said:
I couldn't really use Aperture until 1.1 because the RAW implementation for my camera was lacking -- but now it is much, much better and I recently bought a MBP to use Aperture while traveling.

JT: Are you using a D200?

I'm liking Aperture too. Now I just need to get a better graphics card (currently using a 9600 XT), but the choices aren't really that exciting...

Damon
 
treblah said:
So MacRumors is no longer going to repost what TS reports? :rolleyes:

That's not what I'm saying at all - but just as with mainstream news there is a broad range of news sources that can be drawn from and readers need to make their own judgment as to the quality/interpretation of that news.

I think that MR does a pretty good job positioning news when we report on it. Given TS' track record they've been a safe bet - lately, however, they seem to be scrambling a bit for news. Could be due to Apple's crackdown on leaks, could be due to other factors. I'm just saying that I agree with Gruber's analysis of that particular piece.
 
lol

The blog guy makes NO sense at all.

Everyone agrees that Apple won't STOP their work Aperture. The fact that he JUST JOINED the team leads me to believe that the Think Secret report was true.

They threw everyone out and are getting better people... So obvious
 
DamonNoisette said:
JT: Are you using a D200?

I'm liking Aperture too. Now I just need to get a better graphics card (currently using a 9600 XT), but the choices aren't really that exciting...

Damon

Hi Damon,

Nope, I'm using a D2x and my daughter has a D70s -- both sides of the D200, I guess. Nice camera from what I have heard, I haven't tried one out yet.

That card will hold you back a bit, but I agree the options are not great. When I ordered my Quad I insisted on holding out for the 7800GT (even though my rep said I was in for a long wait..). I'm a relatively new switcher and one of the very few frustrations I have had with the Mac side is the issue with *affordable* video card options. My older G4 powermacs are now filled with flashed PC cards!

And I enjoy Aperture as well-- I don't think I have tapped all of it's power yet!

regards,

JT
 
JCT said:
With the advent of digital SLRs, the "film" is essentially free and I found myself reverting to "shoot first, fix later" mode --- definitely not the way to go. Photoshop is a wonderful program, but it is a terrible time sink -- having to "fix" an appreciable number of your shots will grind your workflow into the ground. Not that I'm no longer a student, my time = money, so I try to avoid Photoshop. This weekend I took my teenager macro shooting and took the opportunity to spend serious time discussing composition and exposure with her before every shot (like my father taught me 30 years ago). Came home, reviewed everything via Aperture on the Quad -- and barely spent any time post-processing in PS at all -- except for the ones she wanted to "play" with. It's all very film-like.

Yes. Photographers who use Photoshop heavily are turning into painters. If you like painting, fine, but it's not photography. Aperture is aimed at photographers. That's why I love it so much.
 
So has anyone figured out the strings to change in 1.1.1 so it works on a 12" powerbook? I have a liscense and 1.1.1 works great on my dual 2.3. I've been editing the aperture executable so I can use my 12" in the field but the screen resoultion fix for 1.1 doesn't work, the strings have been changed. Anyone?
 
Rower_CPU said:
That's not what I'm saying at all - but just as with mainstream news there is a broad range of news sources that can be drawn from and readers need to make their own judgment as to the quality/interpretation of that news.

I think that MR does a pretty good job positioning news when we report on it. Given TS' track record they've been a safe bet - lately, however, they seem to be scrambling a bit for news. Could be due to Apple's crackdown on leaks, could be due to other factors. I'm just saying that I agree with Gruber's analysis of that particular piece.

I'm sorry I totally mis-understood your tone. I totally agree with Gruber (although it may be that I agree with him because I forked over for a membership there too ;)).

I was just tired of some of the asshats on here slamming TS like they are a legitimate news source when everyone knows come next rumor that turns true they will be praising them.
 
treblah said:
So MacRumors is no longer going to repost what TS reports? :rolleyes:

Now THAT is some funny commentary. Very dry.

I enjoy MacRumors, but mostly for the community. The front page does leave little to be desired...
 
Well I found the offsets to modify for 12" Powerbook users,.........
0×9908: 40 9E 00 88 -> 48 00 00 88
0×99a4: 40 9E 00 88 -> 48 00 00 88
0×9a5c: 40 9E 00 E0 -> 48 00 00 D8
 
ifjake said:
this is the first time I've ever heard of Apple responding to a rumor with other than their stock "we don't comment on rumors." this is obviously in responce to thinksecret.

No. Apples done it a few times. In the lead-up to the iTMS, there was a rumor that Apple was buying Universal (picutres). Apple actually went out and said that they weren't.

Most vPod and MacBook rumors are fake. Let's see, last year Apple introduced a video iPod. They weren't confirming rumors; almost every rumor was just wishful thinking. The MacBook rumors are also wishful thinking. And the "real" vpod rumors? notta chance. Apple already is distributing at 320x240, it can't resize everything that fast.

Basically most rumors of 2006 are/were bogus. iBook rumors have almost never been accurate.
 
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