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Any company that allows access to the app can be fined $5000 per user able to access it. The argument for banning TikTok was that it put users private data at risk. What I would much rather see is companies get fined $5000 per user whose personal data gets compromised because their security protocols are crap.

Companies that let people get access to TikTok can be required to offer a year of identity theft monitoring.

How about instead of the monthly “your data was breached and here’s your identify theft monitoring” reactive method, we simply pass an actual data law that’s worth a damn.
 
How about instead of the monthly “your data was breached and here’s your identify theft monitoring” reactive method, we simply pass an actual data law that’s worth a damn.

I think that's what I said...

What I would much rather see is companies get fined $5000 per user whose personal data gets compromised because their security protocols are crap.
 
This is excellent news. Now can we block FaceBook and X next? In some ways these companies are even worse, but they feed your info directly to the US government, which is apparently fine.

I'm kind of over all social media at this point. I stopped using FaceBook in 2010 and Twitter in 2020. The only thing I use that is kind of close is YouTube—which I primarily use for educational content and news, Reddit—which I primarily use for educational content and news, and MacRumors—which I primarily use for educational content and news. Oh, and I suppose I use LinkedIn, but only barely—because sometimes you have to when you need a job.
 
It’s ironic since 4547 supporters want it banned, but extreme leftists Trump haters want it to stay
 
this is an extremely dangerous app, much more dangerous than google, facebook combined
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TikTok could be spun off as an independent company, and ByteDance could still make a lot of money from charging a license fee for the software and branding. I know you're joking, but the fact that ByteDance has said that the Chinese government won't allow the sale of TikTok, says it all.

I think that's what I said...

Not the same thing. We should outlaw the sale of our data without opt-in explicit consent across the board. There wouldn’t be a need to put the onus on everyone to beef up all their security if we spiked the market itself.

The problem isn't that people's data is being sold by TikTok, it's that it's being given to the the Chinese Government - who are using it for anything and everything from selling it (independent of TikTok), to training AI, to engaging in political interference. Banning or forcing a sale are the only ways to resolve that issue.

Most companies don't sell data - that's what is valuable. The use the data to sell 'access' to users through their own ad platforms (facebook, X, google etc.). Most data hacks aren't from social media companies. They're from telcos and banks and other non-tech companies you deal with ona day-to-day basis.
 
Will be good for mental health for a lot of people who are addicted to it. Good for their brains and concentration. Maybe some will come back to reality and don’t just live in their bubble which fakes them an own world. M Should stay banned. Same for other „social“ apps.
 
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TikTok could be spun off as an independent company, and ByteDance could still make a lot of money from charging a license fee for the software and branding. I know you're joking, but the fact that ByteDance has said that the Chinese government won't allow the sale of TikTok, says it all.
How does it "say it all" exactly? You think the US government would stay silent if a foreign government tried to manipulate a US company into selling a product of theirs to a foreign competitor? This is not a free market move in the first place, why would any government treat it as such?

Will be good for mental health for a lot of people who are addicted to it. Good for their brains and concentration. Maybe some will come back to reality and don’t just live in their bubble which fakes them an own world. M Should stay banned. Same for other „social“ apps.
They'll just move to the next thing, there's plenty of US alternatives whose right to fry the brains of kids will forever be protected as long as it adds to the US GDP. Don't mistake this for a move that was made for the right reasons. This is purely a US power play to show the world that they are ready to sink every virtue they supposedly protect in order to protect their profits and influence.
 
The problem isn't that people's data is being sold by TikTok, it's that it's being given to the the Chinese Government - who are using it for anything and everything from selling it (independent of TikTok), to training AI, to engaging in political interference. Banning or forcing a sale are the only ways to resolve that issue

Although it is being banned not for doing that, but for the RISK of doing that, which is a much more vague reason.
 
Curious how people here complain non-stop about government overreach and censorship in the EU. But are now happy the most popular app in the US gets banned.

Also: the big winner in this story will be Trump when he gets the app back. It’s just mind blowing how lucky this guy is.
 
Curious how people here complain non-stop about government overreach and censorship in the EU. But are now happy the most popular app in the US gets banned.

Also: the big winner in this story will be Trump when he gets the app back. It’s just mind blowing how lucky this guy is.
That's not quite the same. It's like complaining of government overreach because they removed asbestos from old buildings or lead from paint.

Id argue if the government, current or impending had any balls they would have gone after every social media app, Billionaires be damned. But they won't because they won't bite the hand that feeds them.
 
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That's not quite the same.
The reasons are not the same reasons, other than that, yes - it’s exactly the same. It’s controlling what and how a foreign company operates in the US. The difference is that the EU don’t demand ownership, rather compliance.

It’s also the same as Google et al being already banned in China. The difference there of course, is that that’s expected from a country such as China, but the US is ‘the free world*’.

*with the government’s approval
 
This is excellent news. Now can we block FaceBook and X next? In some ways these companies are even worse, but they feed your info directly to the US government, which is apparently fine.

I'm kind of over all social media at this point. I stopped using FaceBook in 2010 and Twitter in 2020. The only thing I use that is kind of close is YouTube—which I primarily use for educational content and news, Reddit—which I primarily use for educational content and news, and MacRumors—which I primarily use for educational content and news. Oh, and I suppose I use LinkedIn, but only barely—because sometimes you have to when you need a job.

You're almost there partner. I'd recommend not using the Internet entirely.

(Sent by carrier pigeon)
 
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Although it is being banned not for doing that, but for the RISK of doing that, which is a much more vague reason.

It's being banned because the Chinese Government is using Tiktok to harvest data on Americans - which may involve selling it, but also training AI or engaging in political/cultural interference. It's about a foreign government, not a foreign company, using the information.

ByteDance could easily sell or spin off TikTok into a separate company and charge that company a license fee, except they've said that the Chinese Government won't allow it. So it's not about money - and therefore not about 'selling' data, it's about the data itself.
 
It's being banned because the Chinese Government is using Tiktok to harvest data on Americans - which may involve selling it, but also training AI or engaging in political/cultural interference. It's about a foreign government, not a foreign company, using the information.

ByteDance could easily sell or spin off TikTok into a separate company and charge that company a license fee, except they've said that the Chinese Government won't allow it. So it's not about money - and therefore not about 'selling' data, it's about the data itself.
Literally every free app is selling your data one way or another and also, it can only "sell", what you expose to the app in the first place. It's also understandable that they don't want to just hand over their algorithm
 
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