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Doesn’t seem to fix CarPlay issues with Google maps or Waze unfortunately.

My feedback report states: potential fix identified - for a future OS update.
what issues were you having with Waze? Prior to the revised Beta 4, the only issue I had with Waze was not being able to click the message that pops up like "police in 5 miles" and that dismiss button was unresponsive.
 
Hopefully fixes car play, weird issues with the screen going black when in car play.
The only things I have notice with CarPlay is disconnection of CarPlay on calls but music and other things working fine. Fair bit of lag. And the enlarged writing after the last update.
 
The Public Beta update is typically released the day after the Dev Beta, once it is confirmed to be somewhat stable. As they just released a second version of Dev Beta 4 on Friday, there was probably something wrong with the release. Look for Public Beta 2 to be released on Monday the 29th or Tuesday the 30th.
I downloaded the public beta yesterday. So it’s available 🤷‍♀️
 
I downloaded it yesterday midday
 

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what issues were you having with Waze? Prior to the revised Beta 4, the only issue I had with Waze was not being able to click the message that pops up like "police in 5 miles" and that dismiss button was unresponsive.
Exactly that. Plus none of the small round buttons on the left hand side work (the home, search and routes buttons off the top of my head). Similar situation with Google maps. Apple Maps works fine though...

Was fine till beta 4, the revised beta 4 does not fix it for me and Apple have said that the fix will be in a "future OS release" so presumably beta 5.
 
So today has ended with this beta so badly that I cannot message anyone with it 90% of the time it saying un delivered. Apple really **** the bed this year with this release and it’s so bad I’m giving serious thought to going to a pixel 9. Apple your software has become serous trash. I’ve done two restores now and it just gets worse.

Steve Jobs had better quality control. Apple today is just living on the coat tails of days of old I feel. Sorry for the rant. But I’m pretty hot about how bad this software continues to be beta or not. And now that Apple is offshoring support they really aren’t any better then the completion from a support perspective. Tim you neeed to be replaced with someone who is a products guy because I’m actually starting to recommend against your company for so many reasons and it’s very sad.
 
So today has ended with this beta so badly that I cannot message anyone with it 90% of the time it saying un delivered. Apple really **** the bed this year with this release and it’s so bad I’m giving serious thought to going to a pixel 9. Apple your software has become serous trash. I’ve done two restores now and it just gets worse.

Steve Jobs had better quality control. Apple today is just living on the coat tails of days of old I feel. Sorry for the rant. But I’m pretty hot about how bad this software continues to be beta or not. And now that Apple is offshoring support they really aren’t any better then the completion from a support perspective. Tim you neeed to be replaced with someone who is a products guy because I’m actually starting to recommend against your company for so many reasons and it’s very sad.
I’m with this guy

Yeah

Im with him ❤️❤️❤️❤️
 
Oh no, you mean people have to work a weekend day, as if that's not the world we live in now. :rolleyes:
I work very hard in my life to not have to work weekends. Do I have to do it now and then sure, but I get the time back over the week.
 
So today has ended with this beta so badly that I cannot message anyone with it 90% of the time it saying un delivered. Apple really **** the bed this year with this release and it’s so bad I’m giving serious thought to going to a pixel 9. Apple your software has become serous trash. I’ve done two restores now and it just gets worse.

Steve Jobs had better quality control. Apple today is just living on the coat tails of days of old I feel. Sorry for the rant. But I’m pretty hot about how bad this software continues to be beta or not. And now that Apple is offshoring support they really aren’t any better then the completion from a support perspective. Tim you neeed to be replaced with someone who is a products guy because I’m actually starting to recommend against your company for so many reasons and it’s very sad.
I had almost no issues with the latest betas. I been able to send RCS messages, iMessages and text messages.
 
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It fixed long-standing bugs for me, like dark mode icons not loading or the theme being completely wrong and other things having to do with the Home Screen changes.
 
What I have noticed is significant battery improvement and Bluetooth dropouts being corrected.
 
So today has ended with this beta so badly that I cannot message anyone with it 90% of the time it saying un delivered. Apple really **** the bed this year with this release and it’s so bad I’m giving serious thought to going to a pixel 9. Apple your software has become serous trash. I’ve done two restores now and it just gets worse.

Steve Jobs had better quality control. Apple today is just living on the coat tails of days of old I feel. Sorry for the rant. But I’m pretty hot about how bad this software continues to be beta or not. And now that Apple is offshoring support they really aren’t any better then the completion from a support perspective. Tim you neeed to be replaced with someone who is a products guy because I’m actually starting to recommend against your company for so many reasons and it’s very sad.
I wouldn’t say that Jobs had better quality control exactly. It was a different time. I honestly think that Covid really hurt some businesses with the move to full remote work. There are challenges with quality control and even testing when you can’t simply get everyone in the same room. While I do tend to agree that, or so it felt, innovation was better under Jobs, quality and internal testing is just a sign of the times. That said, it is also much cheaper for the company(ies) to cut cost by eliminating quality steps or amount of time and push that to the consumer thus continous patching. The unfortunate fact of the current state of software development in general is to under deliver and fix later.

Just my opinion and two cents.
 
I wouldn’t say that Jobs had better quality control exactly. It was a different time.
Adding in another halfpenny, I'd say, unequivocally, that Jobs did NOT have better quality control, the QA at Apple since the early 2000s has just been very bad. They failed to implement proper rigorous programmatic QA under him, he then went on to take pride in how fast they were moving (it became part of the programmer ethos, "move fast and break things") so it further degraded QA conceptually, and things have only descended deeper into the circles of hell from there. However, the flip-side of that is that under Jobs' 'reign' people were ****-scared to screw up and end up getting called on the carpet! Terrifying. I think that is what is missing from Apple now. Nobody gets fired for screwing up, and many of the folks up the chain aren't as savvy, technically, as those in the trenches—as Elon says the best engineering managers are really good engineers, because they know engineering—so there is little downward pressure to keep the code clean… unlike when Jobs was stalking the halls and would/could randomly threaten your livelihood. Its pretty clear from how bad some of the niggling little bugs and annoyances are, on the iPad for instance, that no one in the Exec team actually does their own computer work… they have assistants that do all that. They use Messages and Mail, and Safari, kinda like your mom… but they don't USE Apple's products, that work gets farmed out to the entourage. And the assistants are so lowly, they have no juice. (Or they're no brighter than the typical nitwit who "uses computers", and is completely mystified by 'file system hierarchy'.)
 
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