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Apple seems to have lost its " Just Works " way

I just got my IP6+ yesterday after coming from the OPO and I dont know how to say it but yea, it just works.

It is nowhere near as feature enriched as Cyanogen mode on my OPO but things just feel more fluid within this OS for me from app integration, the fluidity of the camera, and just the snappiness of the system.

I am ecstatic to have iOS on a bigger device finally.
 
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corriewf said:
Yeah, and using two devices on a daily basis makes the contrast even more visible.

Do you guys think its possible all of this is due to one man not being there anymore? Could Steve Jobs have really kept the ship on track that much? Obviously they still have the talent there, but they lowered their standards of what is acceptable to release to the public.
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I dont think so... ios used be very, very basic os only with some features and easy to handle. So it was also very easy to keep it stable. But now when the time went by "simplicity" and when ios is getting more features it seems to be just a mess. So... are we actually seeing the real nature of ios and the reason why it was kept simple in the first place? Dont know, but i have been always wondering "why?" when used ios...surely, there are explanations like "because people want to have it as simple as possible", "user friendly" etc... I do believe they could do it, but at this point im more believing that ios just cant handle more features - ios just doesnt bend like the device itself...
 
Jobs had some prejudices that have continuing influence. He seemed rather dictatorial in his designs, which has good points (not following the crowd and being innovative) and bad points (ignoring how users' needs in some instances).

You see it in Apple's insistence on things like Thunderbolt. Hasn't exactly taken off, has it...firewire only less popular? Or seemingly random connector designs (is lightning really much better than micro USB?). Failure to allow storage media in iOS devices, or USB ports, or OTG. Insistence on synching with iTunes. Pentalobe for crikes sake.

Sometimes this pushes adoption of a technology that becomes a better standard. Sometimes it's more like Betamax.

I'm hoping that with the 6+, which is bowing to market pressure, that they do lighten up. The work arounds and effort I have to use just to get photos from my camera to an iPhone is an example of the frustration that drove me to other platforms. I don't think that one should stick to any one OS, unless one has to, but I'd still like Apple to be a bit less closed up, arrogant, secretive and stingy.
 
corriewf said:
I'm going to start by saying I love Apple. Its a great American company that I would love to be able to support more. They have changed my mobile computing life. I would love for them to remain the top dog. I try and support Apple the way Japanese folks support Sony..

Anyway here's my story. Switched from an iPhone 4 to a Samsung captivate.. Captivate is horrible. GPS was broken and Samsung never fixed it. Att gave me a free HTC Inspire. The inspire ran 2.2 android and then 2.3.. Force closes galore..stutter buggy random restarts. I then decided this whole android thing is horrible and switched to iPhone 5.. Everything was running along fine on the iPhone and then ios7 came. My apps would crash quite often and the interface just seemed mismatched.

Wife's iPhone 5 was stolen so I sold my iPhone 5 and bought two nexus 5s. The experience has been absolutely amazing. Apps are so fast to open. Things are buttery smooth if not smoother than iPhone 5. I can't remember the last app that force closed.

So here I am using an iPad and nexus 5 and quite often using the same apps and its like the world has been flipped upside down. Apps on my iPad crash constantly. If they don't crash they have to reload from multitasking. Its a mess of lag (keyboard) and other issues on my iPad.. What the hell is going on? Did Steve Jobs really effect development there? Why is iOS so unstable compared to Android now? IOS has always been my go to stable platform and now I feel like running for the android hills.

I really want to show my support for Apple, but I would be doing my hard earned money a disservice by supporting their issues blindly.
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Apple is just a company, a brand. Loyalty doesn't make sense. You should buy what works best for you.

If it makes you feel better, Android = Google, and Google is American.

Also, the new Moto X is a great phone. Motorola Mobility was recently sold to Lenovo, but their headquarters are in Chicago and they are an american company.
 
Beyond the update which bricked my iPhone, the experience is disturbingly smooth, fluid and stable. Vastly improved over iOS7.

Not to be cliche, but it does just work without any tweaking at all.

The only issue I am having involves 3rd party keyboards. Keeping Swiftkey as default is being problematic. It reverts back to the Apple keyboard, or Swiftkey won't pop up.

Beyond that, it's been a slick performer. As I encounter issues, I will report them.
 
Technarchy said:
Beyond the update which bricked my iPhone, the experience is disturbingly smooth, fluid and stable. Vastly improved over iOS7.

Not to be cliche, but it does just work without any tweaking at all.

The only issue I am having involves 3rd party keyboards. Keeping Swiftkey as default is being problematic. It reverts back to the Apple keyboard, or Swiftkey won't pop up.

Beyond that, it's been a slick performer. As I encounter issues, I will report them.
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Is this on the iphone6?

Im having issues with safari freezing up completely daily. The other morning I went to grab my iPad off the charger and it was hot and at 76% with the cover closed the entire time.....

I've had severe keyboard lag since the first version of iOS 7.
 
Apple seems to have lost its " Just Works " way

corriewf said:
Is this on the iphone6?



Im having issues with safari freezing up completely daily. The other morning I went to grab my iPad off the charger and it was hot and at 76% with the cover closed the entire time.....



I've had severe keyboard lag since the first version of iOS 7.
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Running iOS 8 on an iPhone 6 and iPhone 5. Can't say I've experienced the same as you. Outside of what I mentioned both devices are largely uneventful.
 
I think ios8 is much less buggy then ios7 was at the same point in time. What i see quite a bit is the swift key keyboard not showing up in spotlight but thats about it for the most part. Lets see how smoothly apple pay runs once it is rolled out. Also looking forward to some split screen announcements at the iPad event. So far I am much happier after ios8 then i was after ios7, but still a bit disappointed on the progress made (or not made) with adding capability to Siri and FaceTime.
 
I guess Apple is just human after all. They had to grapple with a major redesign of ios, coupled with adding major new features, and I guess it just proved to be too much for them to handle.

I see it as a bitter but necessary medicine though. This two years have made me realize just how limited ios can be in some places.
 
I am not seeing any of these issues but I am also not using a 3rd party keyboard as I enjoy the stock one after coming from Windows Phone.

The UI is super smooth, love the transitions, and it feel as if every app is optimized at its best in iOS with how fluid it is to share, get around, and do certain tasks.

I really do miss having a back button though after coming from Android/WP the last 3 years.

Has probably been the toughest transition. That and a glance feature or double knock for such a big phone. (6+)
 
Cnasty said:
I am not seeing any of these issues but I am also not using a 3rd party keyboard as I enjoy the stock one after coming from Windows Phone.

The UI is super smooth, love the transitions, and it feel as if every app is optimized at its best in iOS with how fluid it is to share, get around, and do certain tasks.

I really do miss having a back button though after coming from Android/WP the last 3 years.

Has probably been the toughest transition. That and a glance feature or double knock for such a big phone. (6+)
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I wish my IP6 had a back button and knock knock to wake or sleep. I wish it had a notification light too. I like that on my GS5 i don't have to reach all the way to the top of the phone to get to the the navigation menus to go back. I can just use the back button on the bottom right.
 
Couldn't live without the back button. There's a few things I couldn't do without on the note series.
 
jamezr said:
I wish my IP6 had a back button and knock knock to wake or sleep. I wish it had a notification light too. I like that on my GS5 i don't have to reach all the way to the top of the phone to get to the the navigation menus to go back. I can just use the back button on the bottom right.
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I think you would be able to get the knock feature for activator once a jailbreak is available for ios8 ;)
 
I don't think there is anything out, but i guess someone will be able to figure a way out in the next few months..
 
jamezr said:
I wish my IP6 had a back button and knock knock to wake or sleep. I wish it had a notification light too. I like that on my GS5 i don't have to reach all the way to the top of the phone to get to the the navigation menus to go back. I can just use the back button on the bottom right.
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When I first switched from android to iPhone back to 2012, I really missed the back button.

Now it seems clunky compared to most iOS apps using gesture based navigation for moving back and forth through content.

Even when I went from my 5S to S5 in April, the lack of gesture based navigation through apps was a pain point.
 
Technarchy said:
When I first switched from android to iPhone back to 2012, I really missed the back button.

Now it seems clunky compared to most iOS apps using gesture based navigation for moving back and forth through content.

Even when I went from my 5S to S5 in April, the lack of gesture based navigation through apps was a pain point.
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Gesture based navigation is nice. But it doesn't exist across all apps in IOS. That is the problem when to know to use a gesture and win to reach for the top left of the screen. There is no consistency.
 
jamezr said:
Gesture based navigation is nice. But it doesn't exist across all apps in IOS. That is the problem when to know to use a gesture and win to reach for the top left of the screen. There is no consistency.
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I've always found the back button in iOS VERY clunky and primitive. Sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not and you have to take a second to figure out how to go back. It's also not a system wide back button, that's one thing I really like about Android is the back button is system wide so it will go back to different apps and keep them in the state they were in right before you switched to the new app. Actually state isn't the right term because it has true multitasking so the apps aren't really frozen. But it is pretty cool, it's like having a little time machine and it just flows with productivity when using multiple apps.
 
The Game 161 said:
Couldn't live without the back button. There's a few things I couldn't do without on the note series.
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Plus a million, it's horrible having to constantly double press the home button in iOS, instead of pressing a back button, in fact navigating around iOS is one of the worst parts of it! So clunky and slow, very frustrating. And then when you double click it to show your open apps it never shrinks down with the app you were using in the middle? What's that all about? Plus you have to sslloowwllyy drag right to left to change the apps or slowly swipe up to clear them. The complete opposite of Android in fact.
 
spinedoc77 said:
I've always found the back button in iOS VERY clunky and primitive. Sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not and you have to take a second to figure out how to go back. It's also not a system wide back button, that's one thing I really like about Android is the back button is system wide so it will go back to different apps and keep them in the state they were in right before you switched to the new app. Actually state isn't the right term because it has true multitasking so the apps aren't really frozen. But it is pretty cool, it's like having a little time machine and it just flows with productivity when using multiple apps.
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For the way most of us use our phones.... with our thumbs.......a back button is extremely useful. Our thumbs are right where the back button is. So it so simple to use a back button on an Android phone. Don't have to reach at all as that is the natural position of the thumb anyway......
 
The swipe functions are nice to use going back...at least in safari. A cool way Apple could do a back "button" is using a swipe left function on the home button. It's already touch enabled due to touchid.

The back button is extremely nice to have for convenience.
 
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