Yes I have downloaded many 3rd party apps and am using now but I prefer Apple's stock app as it is a lot cleaner and doesn't have a bunch of other stuff I don't need. Using Siri is fine for a simple math question but is no good when you are punching in multiple numbers. You need to be able to look at the numbers to make sure there are no mistakes. I am just surprised why they have it on the iPhone but don't include it on the iPad, specially the pro.
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Apple seriously need to stop denying the iPad of 'iPhone' features
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Yes I have downloaded many 3rd party apps and am using now but I prefer Apple's stock app as it is a lot cleaner and doesn't have a bunch of other stuff I don't need. Using Siri is fine for a simple math question but is no good when you are punching in multiple numbers. You need to be able to look at the numbers to make sure there are no mistakes. I am just surprised why they have it on the iPhone but don't include it on the iPad, specially the pro.
It seems like it's fairly easy to find a fairly small and good calculator to use that wouldn't really be at some disadvantage for not being a stock app.
Uhhhh.... Why what?
Why does somebody want it on an iPad? Or why do they think it's in iOS 10? Or why are they hopeful?
For me...
- I want it on the iPad because, believe it or not, I use my iPad far more frequently than my iPhone. My phone matters much less to me than my iPad mini.
- I don't expect it in iOS 10. We've pretty much seen what's what in the new iOS and it's pretty clear that these are iPhone Only apps.
- Personally, I'm not very hopeful that it will be in future revisions of the iPad either, but it's great there are less cynical people than I!
Health and HealthKit don't sync with iCloud due to privacy concerns. The only data you would be able to see is data generated on the iPad. I mean if you're using an iPad as your main fitness device then go ahead, but I hardly see that plausible.
If iPads were compatible with the Apple Watch this wouldn't be an issue...
The point of the Apple Watch is to extend the phone though.
I mean you could make it compatible with the iPad, but that would just be really odd, honestly. It would be like pairing with a Mac.
How? I want a device that allows quick access to nofications and apps on my iPad and track my fitness. Is this really to much to ask for?
Issue is you can either pay for one, or its the iOS definition of free. In that its free, but has things likes ads and such. It be nice if we had the apple basic calc without dealing with this.
thing here I think is some are polarizing use of their ipad and iphone, or apple seems to think we are. I know with my personal use I am on my mini more than the phone. This at work or home or out and about. It be nice if it had the same apps as the phone for consistency.
TBH I have mixed feelings about my phone. Its the monthly bill for a phone I hope never rings lol. usually means work calling, my wife or friends IM me on line and don't call. The main use of my phone is to tether an internet connection away from the house...for my ipad mini. Use to make the joke it was monthly bill for a time piece too. But then I bought a swiss army watch for that role lol.
I don't have an iPhone, and I don't see why the phone is required when the iPad is just as capable. La whole point of this thread.
I mean, I guess not, by theory in the technological sense, the iPad would be capable of connecting to an Apple Watch, but the point of the Apple Watch was to be an extension of the iPhone. You take your iPhone everywhere you go, and it has a constant consistent data connection. It's meant to complement such a portable device. Most people with iPads aren't walking around town with the iPad in their pocket and going every single place with one. Most people's main means of communication is also NOT just an iPad (no voice calls, no SMS, basically no "phone" functionality). It's just not designed to complement the iPad, and at that point with all of the features of continuity and the apple ecosystem, why not just have an iPhone?
You're right - we're fringe cases, no doubt about it.
For me, the "phone" part of the iPhone is probably the least used feature - I really don't make or receive a lot of calls. Most communication is done by text. What few calls I do get could easily be replaced by VoIP (FaceTime Voice Call). The Mini is certainly a "walking around" device for me.
The Apple Watch is certainly meant to compliment the iPhone, but for me it could just as easily complement an iPad. None of the health data actually comes from my iPhone - it comes from accessories (Watch, BP cuff, Diabetes checker, scale, etc.).
In the end, I doubt I would even own an iPhone except for the features that are exclusive to the iPhone.
I agree that the iPad would definitely benefit from the addition of the missing iPhone stock apps. I totally get not seeing yourself using a certain app or feature or whatever. However, I've always been of the mindset that, hey, if someone else thinks they could really use some kind of addition, but I don't personally think it would be useful in my daily life, why argue against it? I mean, sure, it's often helpful to point out that doing something differently might be easier, or or that alternate apps/services exist that might be similar to what they're looking for. But, each user is different, and just because a certain requested feature might not be useful to some, it doesn't mean it's a bad idea or that it wouldn't be super useful to other people. Just my thoughts on the matter.
In my case, I have a MacBook Pro Retina 15, an iPad mini 4, and an iPhone 6S. Throughout my day I'm constantly switching back and forth between them, so I really notice little discrepancies between devices, and it bugs the crap out of me when I need to go into the other room to grab my iPhone to perform a simple task or look up some kind of data when I have my extremely capable iPad and MacBook Pro sitting right next to me. Sure, some might not find things like a stock Health app useful, but plenty of us would, and nobody would be forced to use an iPad Health app or anything. There are plenty of features on all my devices that I don't find useful, but I definitely wouldn't argue against having them and I think they should stay because I bet a lot of people use them.
Anyway, regarding privacy issues with the Health app, that is of course a very valid concern. However, I think it should be left up to the user as to whether or not they would prefer to cloud sync that data. Personally, I only use Health for workout data and step counts and that kind of stuff, and I find the stuff that's already stored and synced via iCloud to be way, way more sensitive than what's in my Health app. Emails, calendar data, photos, the location of my devices, even some notes contain much more sensitive data for me personally, and they're already accessible from iCloud. But, I know that's not the case for everyone, and Apple gives us the option of whether to sync most of that stuff in the cloud or keep it local to devices. For me, I'd choose to sync my Health data because the convenience in being able to access it from my other devices would far outweigh any of my personal concerns. But that's just me, and again, every user is different! So, more choices here, and the option to access your own data from your own other devices (if you want) would be awesome for those of us who really want it, but wouldn't really have any detrimental affect for those of us who wouldn't feel the need to use it.
In addition to a Health app, another app that I'd like to see on my iPad (and Mac) would be a standalone Phone app with access to voicemails. I love being able to accept a phone call from my iPad and Mac, but I get a lot of junk phone calls and therefore need to screen those. Not having access to voicemails makes taking phone calls from those devices a little less useful to me. Again, an perfect example of having to grab my smallest, least-used device when two other perfectly capable devices are sitting right in front of me. And I agree having a stock Calculator app would be nice. Sure, there are plenty of apps in the app store, but it'd save users the hassle of having to either purchase one or download a free one potentially laden with ads when Apple already has a perfectly good one they can use.
Anyway, sorry for the wall of text! This all just hit on something that I notice in some form pretty much every day, so I had a lot of thoughts on it!
In my case, I have a MacBook Pro Retina 15, an iPad mini 4, and an iPhone 6S. Throughout my day I'm constantly switching back and forth between them, so I really notice little discrepancies between devices, and it bugs the crap out of me when I need to go into the other room to grab my iPhone to perform a simple task or look up some kind of data when I have my extremely capable iPad and MacBook Pro sitting right next to me. Sure, some might not find things like a stock Health app useful, but plenty of us would, and nobody would be forced to use an iPad Health app or anything. There are plenty of features on all my devices that I don't find useful, but I definitely wouldn't argue against having them and I think they should stay because I bet a lot of people use them.
Anyway, regarding privacy issues with the Health app, that is of course a very valid concern. However, I think it should be left up to the user as to whether or not they would prefer to cloud sync that data. Personally, I only use Health for workout data and step counts and that kind of stuff, and I find the stuff that's already stored and synced via iCloud to be way, way more sensitive than what's in my Health app. Emails, calendar data, photos, the location of my devices, even some notes contain much more sensitive data for me personally, and they're already accessible from iCloud. But, I know that's not the case for everyone, and Apple gives us the option of whether to sync most of that stuff in the cloud or keep it local to devices. For me, I'd choose to sync my Health data because the convenience in being able to access it from my other devices would far outweigh any of my personal concerns. But that's just me, and again, every user is different! So, more choices here, and the option to access your own data from your own other devices (if you want) would be awesome for those of us who really want it, but wouldn't really have any detrimental affect for those of us who wouldn't feel the need to use it.
In addition to a Health app, another app that I'd like to see on my iPad (and Mac) would be a standalone Phone app with access to voicemails. I love being able to accept a phone call from my iPad and Mac, but I get a lot of junk phone calls and therefore need to screen those. Not having access to voicemails makes taking phone calls from those devices a little less useful to me. Again, an perfect example of having to grab my smallest, least-used device when two other perfectly capable devices are sitting right in front of me. And I agree having a stock Calculator app would be nice. Sure, there are plenty of apps in the app store, but it'd save users the hassle of having to either purchase one or download a free one potentially laden with ads when Apple already has a perfectly good one they can use.
Anyway, sorry for the wall of text! This all just hit on something that I notice in some form pretty much every day, so I had a lot of thoughts on it!
At this current stage, that would rely on the carrier to allow the iPad to access the voicemail box of that line.
I agree that the iPad would definitely benefit from the addition of the missing iPhone stock apps. I totally get not seeing yourself using a certain app or feature or whatever. However, I've always been of the mindset that, hey, if someone else thinks they could really use some kind of addition, but I don't personally think it would be useful in my daily life, why argue against it? I mean, sure, it's often helpful to point out that doing something differently might be easier, or or that alternate apps/services exist that might be similar to what they're looking for. But, each user is different, and just because a certain requested feature might not be useful to some, it doesn't mean it's a bad idea or that it wouldn't be super useful to other people. Just my thoughts on the matter.
In my case, I have a MacBook Pro Retina 15, an iPad mini 4, and an iPhone 6S. Throughout my day I'm constantly switching back and forth between them, so I really notice little discrepancies between devices, and it bugs the crap out of me when I need to go into the other room to grab my iPhone to perform a simple task or look up some kind of data when I have my extremely capable iPad and MacBook Pro sitting right next to me. Sure, some might not find things like a stock Health app useful, but plenty of us would, and nobody would be forced to use an iPad Health app or anything. There are plenty of features on all my devices that I don't find useful, but I definitely wouldn't argue against having them and I think they should stay because I bet a lot of people use them.
Anyway, regarding privacy issues with the Health app, that is of course a very valid concern. However, I think it should be left up to the user as to whether or not they would prefer to cloud sync that data. Personally, I only use Health for workout data and step counts and that kind of stuff, and I find the stuff that's already stored and synced via iCloud to be way, way more sensitive than what's in my Health app. Emails, calendar data, photos, the location of my devices, even some notes contain much more sensitive data for me personally, and they're already accessible from iCloud. But, I know that's not the case for everyone, and Apple gives us the option of whether to sync most of that stuff in the cloud or keep it local to devices. For me, I'd choose to sync my Health data because the convenience in being able to access it from my other devices would far outweigh any of my personal concerns. But that's just me, and again, every user is different! So, more choices here, and the option to access your own data from your own other devices (if you want) would be awesome for those of us who really want it, but wouldn't really have any detrimental affect for those of us who wouldn't feel the need to use it.
In addition to a Health app, another app that I'd like to see on my iPad (and Mac) would be a standalone Phone app with access to voicemails. I love being able to accept a phone call from my iPad and Mac, but I get a lot of junk phone calls and therefore need to screen those. Not having access to voicemails makes taking phone calls from those devices a little less useful to me. Again, an perfect example of having to grab my smallest, least-used device when two other perfectly capable devices are sitting right in front of me. And I agree having a stock Calculator app would be nice. Sure, there are plenty of apps in the app store, but it'd save users the hassle of having to either purchase one or download a free one potentially laden with ads when Apple already has a perfectly good one they can use.
Anyway, sorry for the wall of text! This all just hit on something that I notice in some form pretty much every day, so I had a lot of thoughts on it!
Exactly. Couldn't have said it any better.
Me too. I don't understand why Apple doesn't include it on the iPad line as well. They do realize that people do work on their iPads that might require a calculator. I use a calculator on my iPad way more than I do with my iPhone. Maybe with IOS 10.
If there's one app that's perfect for slide in/overlay, it's the calculator
They probably don't sell a sufficient number of iPad Pros to justify the resources needed to build a touch screen OSX that would be viable outside one of their labs.
The iPad is not a phone, so it doesn't have phone features. At most, it has FaceTime features, and all of the cross over that exists between Phone and FaceTime.
Beyond that, the iPhone is Apple's cash cow. It will always get new features first, which remain exclusive for a short period of time. iPad is a second class citizen in that regard, because it is in fact a second class earner.
This isn't complicated, or mysterious.
Beyond that, the iPhone is Apple's cash cow. It will always get new features first, which remain exclusive for a short period of time. iPad is a second class citizen in that regard, because it is in fact a second class earner.
This isn't complicated, or mysterious.
I must be missing something. What app is it getting the Weather from? I don't have an official Apple Weather app on my iPad.
It doesn't really have to have an app front-end to have the functionality available internally for it that could be used somewhere, like in the notification center or the new widgets/proactive/notifications screen.
It uses Location Services like it has in previous iOS's. (Exactly the same how it would show weather in the Today View of Notification Centre previously.)
Settings > Privacy > Location Services > Weather > Never/Always