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Apple Silicon competitor: Qualcomm's 8cx Gen 4 based on Nuvia design
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I had a Lenovo X1 Carbon (Gen 7? The first model with the 4K display option) and it was smaller and lighter than a MBA with a larger screen. Seriously, it weighted NOTHING.
It also got hot enough to fry an egg on, and gave me about 30 minutes of battery life from fully charged.
I have a Lenovo X11E (first gen), and its no where near thin and light. Battery life is very good as is the heat management. I viewed this as the minivan of laptops, not sexy but does what you ask of it.
Thinkpads generally were good, I can't say if that is the case now, but when I bought mine years ago they were.
We'll see when it's out, I do hope it's a solid product and that it kickstarts ARM as an actual option for Windows/Linux users.
FPS/Watt is a new one on me. Even so, would you be willing to accept a GPU that is 40% slower than the GPU on the M2? That is not even comparing it to the M2 Pro or Max.
The M-series processors are already very good. M2 is a significant advancement on M1, and M1 was fast and very efficient at scales above that of a phone processor. To beat that, a Nuvia-created core would need to take the state of the art as it was when those employees left Apple (which was a few years before the M1 was released) and play catch up.
If you look here
liliputing.com
you will see the rumoured details of the 8cx gen4 are quite similar to a M2 Pro, with up to 8 performance and up to 4 efficiency cores, and with each block of four cores having 12MB of shared L2 cache and 8MB of L3 cache, plus 12MB of system-level cache and 4MB for graphics.
I would be surprised if they can deliver on the original promises of significantly better than M1 performance-per-watt.
If you look here
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8cx Gen 4 details allegedly leaked (First Nuvia-based design) - Liliputing
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8cx Gen 4 details allegedly leaked (First Nuvia-based design)
liliputing.com
you will see the rumoured details of the 8cx gen4 are quite similar to a M2 Pro, with up to 8 performance and up to 4 efficiency cores, and with each block of four cores having 12MB of shared L2 cache and 8MB of L3 cache, plus 12MB of system-level cache and 4MB for graphics.
I would be surprised if they can deliver on the original promises of significantly better than M1 performance-per-watt.
I'd be surprised if they could deliver superior performance, never mind per watt
They were projecting greater than M1 performance in 2020. I believe it.
It should be a good match against M3 in performance per watt.
Performance Delivered a New Way Part 2 — Geekbench versus SPEC
Author: Ram Srinivasan, Performance Architect, NUVIA
Yes but then they would say that, its just marketing talk untill we see an actual product. The first few benchmarks will be interesting but I am skeptical.
we also have to see what is the outcome of the ARM lawsuits over the license they granted Nuvia, which was non-transferable in the event of a take-over. I believe ARM wanted Qualcomm to destroy all Nuvia designs from prior to the take-over and start again under the terms of Qualcomm’s ARM license.