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Apple Silicon M1: benchmarks and review for Mac Mini, MacBook Air and MBP 13 M1 and comparison with other brands
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I am bit skeptical about those 4800U scores. They seem anomalously high compared to third-party reviews. I mean, it’s practically identical to a 45W 4800H above. If I understand correctly, these are user-submitted scores, right? Could be from overclocked systems or not entirely truthful.
So... pretty much "meh" and nothing special, right?
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Something like that, yeah ?
It’s just interesting yes.. in the way Finnish people use that word. Interesting means in Finland OMG WHOEHAA YES YES YES
Geekbench isn’t the be all end all of benchmarks, its good for bursty workloads and has shown itself to be very inconsistent. This is an Apple forum, and I know a lot of you guys probably aren’t familiar with Samsung’s Exynos processors, but in the Android world they absolutely dominated Geekbench for years, but in real world use, got absolutely stomped by year old Snapdragons which had much lower Geekbench scores.
As for these benchmarks (so far), they are competitive with Renoir, but they don’t dominate AMD’s offerings. Of course they are doing this a lower power draw (I assume). But this is to be expected, they are using a brand new 5nm process, where as AMD is using a 2 year/generation old process node, combined a generation old core. Zen 3 clocks higher, has much higher IPC than Zen 2 did. M1 is very powerful, but it does not seem to dominate X86 as some seem to believe. Apple has excellent engineers, but so does AMD. I am not mentioning Intel because their issues with their process node prevents them from being able to compete with Apple and AMD.
Don’t get me wrong, I love what Apple is doing with their CPUs. I held off getting a laptop, just to wait for this new silicon, but I think some of us should temper of expectations. I can’t wait to get my MacBook Air to compare with my Intel/AMD systems. I suspect those huge caches, along with Safari with be some of the fastest web machines you can buy since Javascript loves cache.
As for these benchmarks (so far), they are competitive with Renoir, but they don’t dominate AMD’s offerings. Of course they are doing this a lower power draw (I assume). But this is to be expected, they are using a brand new 5nm process, where as AMD is using a 2 year/generation old process node, combined a generation old core. Zen 3 clocks higher, has much higher IPC than Zen 2 did. M1 is very powerful, but it does not seem to dominate X86 as some seem to believe. Apple has excellent engineers, but so does AMD. I am not mentioning Intel because their issues with their process node prevents them from being able to compete with Apple and AMD.
Don’t get me wrong, I love what Apple is doing with their CPUs. I held off getting a laptop, just to wait for this new silicon, but I think some of us should temper of expectations. I can’t wait to get my MacBook Air to compare with my Intel/AMD systems. I suspect those huge caches, along with Safari with be some of the fastest web machines you can buy since Javascript loves cache.
He says Cinebench re-run is not good after plugged in!! :O
I am afraid he is not a professional reviewer. I asked him
If I have depleted my battery for the 16" to less than 50% and then I plug it in, try to run Cinebench, I'll also get "meh" scores because... tada, it's thermal throttling!
He may be seeing proof of thermal throttling. Which is not surprising. First boot = cold MacBook. After running for a while + plugged in and charging = toasty MacBook.
Would be curious if his is Pro or Air. If it's Air, that's expected. If it's Pro, that means thermal throttling may be even worse with Air.
Possibly. Though it could also be the Mac is indexing stuff. I'm hesitant to say thermal throttling is the culprit because of how "power efficient" it is supposed to be.
No, power throttling should be expected here. This is running a much more powerful chip than the 5W chip in the iPad Air (A14). And heck, the A14 also has thermal throttling.
I've said this before in another thread, but... I think people have unrealistic expectations that somehow, Apple can cram all of this performance into a single chip and still keep the chip operating at maximum efficiency with no throttling at all even without a fan.
Beyond that, Apple stuffed both the Mac Mini and the MacBook Pro with a fan each. I don't think that's a coincidence. The fan is likely very necessary to maintain the high level of performance. I'd fully expect the MacBook Air to not be able to keep up in hot weather or with sustained high load.
Now let him update to 11.0.1 and ask him to do everything all over again.