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Ipadfever

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I love the fact that Apple balanced the entire device with bezels consistent all around the screen, with that middle notch housing an amazing tech.

Having a notch without the tech is kinda loosy. Having a chin with an unbalanced screen overall is just awful.
And a notch balanced the screen???????? I am glad I don’t have your eye doctor!
 

jeremiah256

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I'll be getting the new iPhone X that comes out in the Fall, but a few of my co-workers have the iPhone X. The notch, to them, is a non-issue. It faded into the background long ago and the beautiful screen real estate is the main thing that draws the eye. It was much less traumatic to them then losing the audio jack when they upgraded. And with other manufacturers now knowing it's a viable option that the average consumer will accept, it is here to stay.
 

iapplelove

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I don’t mind the notch at all. It truly is the closest edge to edge screen on the market.

If they some how could put all those little sensors under the screen that would be great too.

But for now the notch isn’t a big deal at all. 99% of people who hate the notch don’t even own the phone nor have they used one for an extensive period of time.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Completely understand your reasoning regarding the price, but I actually find the 8 to be overpriced; the screen is quite bad compared to the X. The only thing that I still love about it is Touch ID. I tried to go back to the 8 this past weekend but that 720p screen was not good enough for me. I enjoyed using Touch ID again. If only Apple had a 1080p screen on the 8. Oh, well. I’m still holding out hope for fingerprint scanner under the screen.
I’ve kept an eye on pricing and the 8 has come down a lot in my country. Screen quality isn’t all that important to me to be honest.
 

Radon87000

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It’ll be just over 2 years I’m guessing before I own an iPhone with any kind of notch variant. My next upgrade is looking to be the iPhone 8 which is pretty difficult to ignore at current pricing and when it drops further in September.

I’ve never thought the notch was particularly pretty, but it wouldn’t have put me off a phone. The iPhone X as a whole package just doesn’t offer enough over the 8 for me at this stage for it to be a serious contender for my money. I’m just not excited enough to want to spend more than I have to and perhaps I’ve owned iPhones too long. I think more practically these days.
They are also removing 3DT in the budget model this year and putting in an inferior TFT so it's either get the X design with significant features missing or an older boring design with not much upgrade features.
 

BenTrovato

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I don't get how people say the notch is okay. I get the "it doesn't bother me" comments - totally agree. From a completely neutral perspective, the notch does not look great; i.e. It would look better without the notch.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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They are also removing 3DT in the budget model this year and putting in an inferior TFT so it's either get the X design with significant features missing or an older boring design with not much upgrade features.
Yeah it’s the lack of 3DT on the LCD model that puts me off to be honest. I’m not too bothered about having an older looking design that I’m used to if I keep features I like using.

If Apple are going to hold back on features for their mid range devices then it makes more sense to buy the previous years model at the cheaper price for me.
 

Pakaku

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I don't get how people say the notch is okay. I get the "it doesn't bother me" comments - totally agree. From a completely neutral perspective, the notch does not look great; i.e. It would look better without the notch.
I half-disagree because without something, the phone has no definition, and it's just a plain screen. That's not very interesting. I do half-agree because there could always be something better, though.
 

44267547

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I'll be getting the new iPhone X that comes out in the Fall, but a few of my co-workers have the iPhone X. The notch, to them, is a non-issue. It faded into the background long ago and the beautiful screen real estate is the main thing that draws the eye. It was much less traumatic to them then losing the audio jack when they upgraded. And with other manufacturers now knowing it's a viable option that the average consumer will accept, it is here to stay.

To be honest, the only time the notch is ever discussed is on a tech form. I have never heard anyone around me that owns the iPhone X mention the notch whatsoever. The main thing I have heard others discuss is the high price point and rather they think the iPhone X is worth it.
 

Ipadfever

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I half-disagree because without something, the phone has no definition, and it's just a plain screen. That's not very interesting. I do half-agree because there could always be something better, though.
An obstructive object such as the notch makes a phone interesting????? Nothing in life excites me more when content in a video is blocked because of a poor design!! You must live a real boring life if a notch makes your phones more interesting!
 

Pakaku

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An obstructive object such as the notch makes a phone interesting????? Nothing in life excites me more when content in a video is blocked because of a poor design!! You must live a real boring life if a notch makes your phones more interesting!
You totally missed the part about how it adds definition to the phone. The older phones had definition in the home button and Touch ID ring.

If I'm sad for thinking it looks more interesting than a blank bezel, then your insistence on pointing out this sadness must be on a whole higher level than mine.
 

Ralfi

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Being the predominant Portrait iPhone user than I am, the notch is great as it pushes static information out of the way of my usable screen area.

Landscape mode doesn't bother me either, as I prefer to watch videos in their OAR, not zoomed/cropped, as the information lost around the edges moreso than the notch is a turnoff.

An obstructive object such as the notch makes a phone interesting????? Nothing in life excites me more when content in a video is blocked because of a poor design!! You must live a real boring life if a notch makes your phones more interesting!
So you've just disagreed on an aspect of phone design & insulted someone at the same time.

Great contribution.
 
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44267547

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You totally missed the part about how it adds definition to the phone. The older phones had definition in the home button and Touch ID ring.

True. If anything, Apple knows the notch is a trademark feature for them. Even when competitors like Samsung are mocking it, it’s still defines with the notch will always be for the new GEN iPhone X. It defines the phone when you first see it and you know exactly what it is.
 

wesk702

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No, most people weren't whiny children and accepted that things change and evolve and they moved forward in a way that met their needs/wants. Here we are nearly a year after release and these forums are still filled with those who feel the need to insult, denigrate and generally give those who accept the notch a bad time. What I'm not seeing is "notch lovers" giving the rest of the people a bad time. Most who have accepted the notch seem to take a "use whatever works for you" approach. So I fail to understand why those who hate the notch can't behave as maturely.

I have no problem having a reasonable conversation about the notch. I particularly appreciate those who are trying to find a compromise (ie let us move the content down and black out the "ears"). But comments like the above contribute nothing of value and only serve to push people's buttons and stir the pot. It also has the side effect of making those people look small-minded, petty, selfish and entitled because Apple didn't give them precisely what they felt Apple should have given them.

It's OK to not like the notch. It's not OK to insult those who do. That's a key point to keep in mind when trying to have a civilized conversation. Focus your hatred on the problem, not the people.
Who are you arguing with?
 

kdarling

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The notch will be gone just as soon as they can work out how to conceal that camera array under/within the screen or in the thinnest of pieces in the body of the phone.

The iPhone X notch is similar to the "flat tire" on that first round all-display watch... the Moto 360. Its notch was seen by Moto engineers as a necessary evil at first to allow a frontal sensor and drivers without pushing the body past the display boundaries.
 
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jamezr

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True. If anything, Apple knows the notch is a trademark feature for them. Even when competitors like Samsung are mocking it, it’s still defines with the notch will always be for the new GEN iPhone X. It defines the phone when you first see it and you know exactly what it is.
The notch truly is iconic for iphone X. But just to have the notch the X loses some functionality as well. There are a lot of icons and information that can't be displayed now because there is no room at the top of the display because of the notch.
I had the X for a month and just couldn't keep it. My 8 Plus did everything faster and has more functionality and information displayed for me. Hopefully with the new larger iphone coming in the fall it will have more room at the top of the display to show more information.
Here is a side by side

Xand8Plus.jpg
 

x-evil-x

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I half-disagree because without something, the phone has no definition, and it's just a plain screen. That's not very interesting. I do half-agree because there could always be something better, though.
interesting? There really does not need a notch to make it "apple" Once tech is far enough to not have anything on the front screen EVERY manufacturer will do it. It wasnt done for being interesting.
All apple needs is the logo on the back. If you know much about apples past with Steve he didnt want branding on the front of the phones. Fought with Verizon wanting to put the logo on the front. The Notch is not a design choice it was used for a purpose till that purpose is not needed it will go away.
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The notch truly is iconic for iphone X. But just to have the notch the X loses some functionality as well. There are a lot of icons and information that can't be displayed now because there is no room at the top of the display because of the notch.
I had the X for a month and just couldn't keep it. My 8 Plus did everything faster and has more functionality and information displayed for me. Hopefully with the new larger iphone coming in the fall it will have more room at the top of the display to show more information.
Here is a side by side

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how did it do everything faster? cause you arent good with the gestures? The X is much faster once you get good at it.
 

jamezr

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how did it do everything faster? cause you arent good with the gestures? The X is much faster once you get good at it.
I can have my 8 Plus unlocked almost before i have it out of my pocket with TouchID. I can have my thumb on TouchID scanner while it is in my pocket and it will be unlocked and at my homescreen all in one gesture. So I guess I am good at gestures after all.

With the iphone X have I to pull it out of my pocket stop and look at it and then swipe to get to my home screen.
 

forestinjersey

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I am new to the iPhone X and thought the notch would bug me, its the exact opposite, I like the 'ears'.
 

x-evil-x

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I can have my 8 Plus unlocked almost before i have it out of my pocket with TouchID. I can have my thumb on TouchID scanner while it is in my pocket and it will be unlocked and at my homescreen all in one gesture. So I guess I am good at gestures after all.

With the iphone X have I to pull it out of my pocket stop and look at it and then swipe to get to my home screen.
I guess if you care that much on the lock screen. I never liked how I couldn't stay on the lock screen that well unlocking the phone too fast. Inside when you are actually using the phone the x is faster. a trade off
 

jamezr

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Aug 7, 2011
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I guess if you care that much on the lock screen. I never liked how I couldn't stay on the lock screen that well unlocking the phone too fast. Inside when you are actually using the phone the x is faster. a trade off
I think it is personal preference. TouchID is faster and lets me get to using my phone quicker.
 

Ralfi

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I think it is personal preference. TouchID is faster and lets me get to using my phone quicker.
Ok, so the 8 Plus didn't do "everything faster" then? Unless 'unlocking' is everything to you. :D

The user adapts to Face ID over time (not sure how much of a chance you gave it), & its unlocking process becomes more intuitive the more you use it.

Although, you have mentioned this point a number of times, so you must've given it a fair go & are happy with where you're at now, which is the main thing.

But, since you have mentioned it repeatedly, I suspect you really wanted the X to work for you. I'm tipping the X Plus will be right up your alley, even if the Status Bar icons take a cut....I'm actually surprised this is a big issue for anyone...the positives of the notch far outweight these (temporary) sacrifices.

Anyway...
 

wacky4alanis

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Mar 18, 2009
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Love touch ID, love the home button, and hate hate hate the notch. I'm using an 8 at the moment. If their entire lineup moves in this direction, I may finally have to abandon the iPhone after a nice long run. I've owned one of every iPhone generation between the 3G and the 8. (3G, 3GS, 4, 4s, 5, 5s, 6, 6s+, 7, 8)
 
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