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how useless
project a screen when im staring at one already.....
not to mention the battery power it would take

Some people simply have little imagination as to what useful could mean to some users. For example, I store ALL of my scanned family photos in my iPod Touch (currently at 4000+ and counting). The ability to show some friends photos on a wall at their house in a dark room instead of a TINY little screen that's on the Touch...well that would be a cool thing indeed and far from useless as some suggest. If power drain is a problem, I tend to carry an AC adapter for recharging while traveling. Certainly, it would not be a problem to plug in an iPod Touch at someone's house, for example. One cannot rely on the internal battery alone in a product that doesn't have a changeable battery option and that seems to be the Apple is going for all their mobile products (personally I think it's stupid to do that, but then Apple does all kinds of stupid things all the time). A projector could be even more useful if the device weren't an active participant in operations (i.e. you move the thing and the display will vibrate at worst and move all over thep lace at worst). Hence, a plugin projector unit that is not directly plugged into the unit (i.e. have a cord or wireless transmission pod) is probably the best solution since it would allow you to move the iPod Touch or iPhone without disturbing the picture and it would then allow for a much larger internal power source.

If Apple wanted to add something truly useful to a future iPhone/Touch, they should add an IR transmitter. This would then easily allow an iPod Touch to function as a truly universal remote, operating on both WiFi devices like the AppleTV and Infrared ones like home theater receivers. I use my iPod Touch to control my whole house audio/video system. To be able to use it to control EVERTYHING in my whole house audio/video system would be sweet indeed and with the touch screen, it could easily be customized for any of your remotes in terms of layout. Of course, that's not the only thing I use it for and when you compare the price of high-end touch screen universal remote controls, it's actually quite reasonable for such uses even if you don't use it for music, movies or Internet.

I still don't know why Apple hasn't added the ability for the iPhone/Touch to act as an AirTunes device and be able to either stream music from your local house library to the device (so it doesn't have to store everything on it while your at home) or send music to other Airtunes devices directly from it to devices like AppleTV or the Airport Express, thus functioning as a wireless transmitter to your hub station. True, Apple wants to sell you a docking station, but in essence an AppleTV becomes the docking station as it won't work without such a device in that regard so Apple makes another big ticket sale to boot. Apple seems to have lost all imagination when it comes to little things like the above or perhaps they simply want to hold back such features for years to come. Otherwise, why would anyone ever buy a replacement (other than the battery issue which costs almost half as much as some new models).
 
.....Uhmmm...

......Uhmmmmm.... Yah right!!!!
Apple didn't fall for the 5 & 8 megapixel crap (mobile-maker's top models with utterly useless multi-megapixel cameras), you think she would be tempted to cram in a... PROJECTOR?!?!?!?... For God's sake, picture the logic behind this before before you assume... b*llocks!
 
Unless there is something I'm not seeing here, I don't see this coming to the iPhone/Touch anytime soon, if ever.

I would however, like to see an IR port on the end though so I can use my iPhone/iPod touch as a universal remote control. I have the $250 Logitech Harmony One and while it works good, it makes me push the help button just enough to make me wish there was another solution at a reasonable price.
 
......Uhmmmmm.... Yah right!!!!
Apple didn't fall for the 5 & 8 megapixel crap (mobile-maker's top models with utterly useless multi-megapixel cameras)

You sound like you're pretty ignorant about digital cameras. My current Canon camera is 8 Megapixels and I could definitely use another 4-8 for cropping/zooming purposes. Certainly 8 is just acceptable for larger prints. The mere idea that 2 or 3 megapixels is good for more than just viewing on your computer is just plain ludicrous. The iPhone would GREATLY benefit from a 6-8 Megapixel camera, not to mention a flash.
 
i dont quite know if this would be crap but if it dident cost extra i would like it, seems fun to play with
 
......Uhmmmmm.... Yah right!!!!
Apple didn't fall for the 5 & 8 megapixel crap (mobile-maker's top models with utterly useless multi-megapixel cameras)/QUOTE]

You sound like you're pretty ignorant about digital cameras. My current Canon camera is 8 Megapixels and I could definitely use another 4-8 for cropping/zooming purposes. Certainly 8 is just acceptable for larger prints. The mere idea that 2 or 3 megapixels is good for more than just viewing on your computer is just plain ludicrous. The iPhone would GREATLY benefit from a 6-8 Megapixel camera, not to mention a flash.

Lol if you think adding megapixels is going to make a mobile phone take great pictures you've fallen for the megapixel myth like so many others.
 
......Uhmmmmm.... Yah right!!!!
Apple didn't fall for the 5 & 8 megapixel crap (mobile-maker's top models with utterly useless multi-megapixel cameras)

You sound like you're pretty ignorant about digital cameras. My current Canon camera is 8 Megapixels and I could definitely use another 4-8 for cropping/zooming purposes. Certainly 8 is just acceptable for larger prints. The mere idea that 2 or 3 megapixels is good for more than just viewing on your computer is just plain ludicrous. The iPhone would GREATLY benefit from a 6-8 Megapixel camera, not to mention a flash.

Without a good lens, the image quality would suffer greatly by increasing the resolution of the sensor. If the iPhone had a 6-8 megapixel camera with the current lens (or any lens that will reasonably fit on a phone), it would enhance every surface flaw in the lens and your photos would be grainier, with more variations in color and texture from the actual subject you are photographing. Be thankful Apple didn't try to do that. At best, they might pull off a 3 megapixel camera with the type of lens that will fit in an iPhone.

jW
 
Without a good lens, the image quality would suffer greatly by increasing the resolution of the sensor. If the iPhone had a 6-8 megapixel camera with the current lens (or any lens that will reasonably fit on a phone), it would enhance every surface flaw in the lens and your photos would be grainier, with more variations in color and texture from the actual subject you are photographing. Be thankful Apple didn't try to do that. At best, they might pull off a 3 megapixel camera with the type of lens that will fit in an iPhone.

jW

So add a better lens along with the megapixels. What's the big deal? If I can get a semi-professional fully manual 12 megapixel Canon for under $150, I surely think Apple could manage a DECENT 5 or 6 Megapixel camera. As time goes on, high quality photos and video are only going to become more important. High Definition is the order of the day and 720P is going to be a bare minimum. The Japanese are already pushing forward with Super HD at 4x the definition of 1080P. VGA is looking kind of pathetic these days. And any camera that doesn't have a flash is going to suffer indoors where most photos are taken.

At the very least, Apple could offer a higher quality (albeit slightly pricier) iPhone for those that want to carry one device with them. And how about that forward facing camera for video conferencing Apple? iChat Mobile would be a force unto itself, but Apple continues to ignore their own technology. They can't even add a visualizer to AppleTV even years after its introduction. Let's face it. Apple just doesn't care about anything but a quick profit from the lowest common denominator. They'll drizzle a couple of wanted features with each succeeding iPhone model. Otherwise, you'd have no reason to ever want to upgrade. I figure the self-replaceable battery will appear in about 3 years, for instance.
 
If Apple wanted to add something truly useful to a future iPhone/Touch, they should add an IR transmitter. This would then easily allow an iPod Touch to function as a truly universal remote, operating on both WiFi devices like the AppleTV and Infrared ones like home theater receivers. I use my iPod Touch to control my whole house audio/video system. To be able to use it to control EVERTYHING in my whole house audio/video system would be sweet indeed and with the touch screen, it could easily be customized for any of your remotes in terms of layout. Of course, that's not the only thing I use it for and when you compare the price of high-end touch screen universal remote controls, it's actually quite reasonable for such uses even if you don't use it for music, movies or Internet.

i have been waiting to get my hands on this but there havent been any updates lately that i have seen.

i just spent the weekend programming my Logitech IR remote to control Plex and EyeTV on my Mini as well as have it launch and close them and other programs. very handy.

IR is old true but works and i currently have it on my Receiver, DVD player, Mini's, Macbook's, and TV's.

i use my retired 2G iPhone around the house for remote desktop to my mac's, stream Pandora on my patio and as a remote for as much as i can but if there was an IR sender that i could plug into the headphones jack i would be all over it.
 
Actually next year they will have 3D holographic projection so we can all walk around in a world of our choosing (tangerine trees and marmalade skies)! :rolleyes:

Yeah! The Beatles! Hopefully Paul will get the collection and bring it over to iTunes!

On micro projectors: I don't see the point unless you're going to a business meeting to give a presentation and realize "Oh crap! I didn't bring my projector!" And for some reason have you're whole powerpoint or whatever on your iPhone. Then you have to prop your phone up on something. After that you make your coworkers and bosses squint their eyes over and over to see what you're talking about.



Slot-Loading Blueberry iMac G3, 1st Generation Intel core duo 2.0ghz iMac 17", PowerBook G3, PowerBook G4 Aluminum 15", PowerBook 165, Preforma 575, 5th Generation U2 iPod, 1st Generation 1gb black iPod nano, Two 2nd Generation 1gb iPod shuffles (Blue & Silver), 2nd Generation iPod touch 16gb
 
I have an AAXA Pico projector:

http://www.aaxatech.com/products/kp190.htm

And I can tell you it is very unlikely that Apple is going to put this into the next generation Iphone. The micro projector being the size of a penny is BS, that is ONLY the optical portion of the projector which is just the lens + LED (or lasers or whatever) - you still need a controller and most importantly a battery source - and we all know the Iphones battery source is so phenomenal :rolleyes:

The AAXA pico projector uses a 1900mah 3.7V battery to make 12 lumens for an hour - anything under 10 lumens is worthless IMO. So even with a say a 500% efficiency improvement do you really think Apple is going to create some super battery to make this happen?

I'm willing to bet no.
 
It's for the NETBOOK

There will probably be another ipod touch refresh before the end of the year, but no iPhone update. Very cool link to the PicoP projector! I had assumed it would just be a red laser for keyboard projection, but they could do a whole 480P RGB! Still, the PicoP projector is like 3-4 times as big (read: thick) as the iTouch...

The micro-projectors in question are almost assuredly for the new netbook. Although the number being thrown around there is $800, and I can't see a giant iTouch_projector being offered for anything less than $1000?


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I can see the commercials now

"Wouldn't it be cool to watch 2.5 minutes of your favorite coldplay music video on the dashboard of your prius while waiting for your life partner to finish planting that tree effectively reducing your carbon emissions by 2% -Well now you can. Introducing the all new iphone - with micro projector."


In really small print at the bottom of the screen "actual battery life may very"
 
sniper,
The AAXA has a constant 12-lumen, non-coherent light source distributed over the projection area. The PicoP has a variable (up to 10 lumen), coherent (3 lasers) light source that scans the entire projection area 60 times/sec, thereby creating the perception of a MUCH brighter picture with lower power consumption (lasers' power controls pixel intensity). Also, being made of coherent pixels, the image is always in focus and requires NO LENSES.

onehoop,
The PicoP (ShowWX) is mostly battery, and the electronics real estate will be MUCH smaller once embedded into the boards of existing products.

kystocks,
I still don't see the point of texting (one big marketing scam, IMHO), but young whipper-snappers just can't seem to get enough of it.

With the newly-minted (exclusive?) Corning contract for the green laser component, Max Display Enterprises (MEM manufacturer) buying 12% of Microvision, and multiple OEM's (including Foxlink) actively working on packaging Microvision's display engine into various applications, we WILL see pico-projectors not just as plug-n-play extensions, but as embedded features in the NEAR future. There is currently a race going on to be the first to realize economy of scale and become market leader. Personally, I won't be buying an iPhone or any little-screen, little-keyboard PDA until they have the capability of being a fully-functional, internet-connected pocket PC/MAC (even if slightly larger) with a full-sized, projected, interactive screen/keyboard ... and the technology is here NOW.
screen -- http://www.microvision.com/
interactivity -- http://www.lightblueoptics.com/index.htm (as an example only since the interactivity part is non-proprietary IR technology)
 
sniper,
The AAXA has a constant 12-lumen, non-coherent light source distributed over the projection area. The PicoP has a variable (up to 10 lumen), coherent (3 lasers) light source that scans the entire projection area 60 times/sec, thereby creating the perception of a MUCH brighter picture with lower power consumption (lasers' power controls pixel intensity). Also, being made of coherent pixels, the image is always in focus and requires NO LENSES.

onehoop,
The PicoP (ShowWX) is mostly battery, and the electronics real estate will be MUCH smaller once embedded into the boards of existing products.

kystocks,
I still don't see the point of texting (one big marketing scam, IMHO), but young whipper-snappers just can't seem to get enough of it.

With the newly-minted (exclusive?) Corning contract for the green laser component, Max Display Enterprises (MEM manufacturer) buying 12% of Microvision, and multiple OEM's (including Foxlink) actively working on packaging Microvision's display engine into various applications, we WILL see pico-projectors not just as plug-n-play extensions, but as embedded features in the NEAR future. There is currently a race going on to be the first to realize economy of scale and become market leader. Personally, I won't be buying an iPhone or any little-screen, little-keyboard PDA until they have the capability of being a fully-functional, internet-connected pocket PC/MAC (even if slightly larger) with a full-sized, projected, interactive screen/keyboard ... and the technology is here NOW.
screen -- http://www.microvision.com/
interactivity -- http://www.lightblueoptics.com/index.htm (as an example only since the interactivity part is non-proprietary IR technology)

Wait explain to me how a 10 lumen laser at 60hz is going to be better than a white LED at 120hz (AAXA) or RGB LED (3M Mpro120) at 240hz? The color gamut might be slightly better so it might APPEAR brighter, but it's still not going to be much brighter.

I'll admit the no focus feature is nice, but a 10 lumen output just isn't going to cut it...

I first saw the Microvision ads in 2007. It got me all excited, but 2+ years later where's the "laser" projector? Meanwhile I own an AAXA P1 (love it) and have a 3M Mpro120 on order...
 
This rumour really needs a reality check. A microprojector??? Right... :rolleyes:

Heh, for sure.

Wouldn't mind seing some easy way to connect the Touch to a regular projector, though. If you could run powerpoints and videos on a projector from it, it'd be great for school.
 
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