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There's clearly internal wrangling happening on what form a second generation of this should take.

Personally I think it would be a smart move to introduce a second stripped back model which is used tethered to a Mac as quickly as possible which take the processing out of the device, reduces weight and significantly cost. And just spec bump the existing untethered Vision Pro. Then it will be interesting to see where people go.

If they can get this sub $1000 and more comfortable to use as an ultra wide Mac monitor, which is being described as its first killer feature, I can see this being quite popular. I know I'd certainly consider picking one up.

I also think working on a Mac suits this sort of device well as people tend to work alone and by it's very nature as 'headphones for the eyes' it doesn't present a problem of being isolated other uses such as watching films or sports presents.
The most expansive parts of AVP aren’t computing parts like apple silicon, storage among others. Those screens are expensive part. What use is a AVP with out good screens. I am primarily interested in AVP, so I could use those large 4K screens when traveling.
 
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IF it were possible to slash cost that way... it sounds great but there are big technical limitations.

The Vision Pro uses a lot of compute power that a Mac can't replicate, namely:
1. The R1 chip for real time low-latency passthrough, foveation and eye tracking - that needs to be done on a real time chip and couldn't work with something that uses a standard CPU architecture, even less something that is down a wire on a computer with other tasks that compete
2. The neural engines of the M2 are doing huge amounts of work recognising objects, performing hand occlusion etc. Again, something that would be very tricky and have a negative impact on a connected Mac

Finally, I can attest to how much it's essential for the Apple Vision Pro to be untethered. Even when I plug the battery into a charger, I find myself occasionally walking off and nearly pulling the thing off my head because the passthrough illusion is so good. I don't fancy pulling my Mac with me!

Fine. Keep the R1 in the headset and require a Mac with at least an M4.
 
Fine. Keep the R1 in the headset and require a Mac with at least an M4.

The question is would that work? The whole reason for the R1 is to process sensor input and provide a low-latency data feed to the M2 chip. Can they meet their latency requirements over a longer wire or WiFi? I don't know what speeds they need to satisfy their response metrics. But it would certainly add some delay and that would trigger some MacRumors readers to declare the response "unacceptable".
 
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I'd jump in if Apple released a "Vision Display" - a significantly cheaper & much lighter spatial display without the creepy external display, built in processing and battery pack. To be used as a wired display for immersive work (and gaming) with a Mac.

IMO this would make a lot of sense as mac accessory. Probably one still needs to have R1 for camera processing, but might be able to delegate the rest to M4 Pro over Thunderbolt 5. This would allow leaving out battery, active cooling, display, ... Making the whole thing cheaper and lighter. Downside would be being tethered to a Mac and cutting laptop battery in half.

I would still opt for the full experience (keep my AVP) due to wireless experience being quite liberating.
 
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What significant difference will the 2nm process bring to the M6, making you regret Apple’s potential use of the M5 in the next AVP?
"It was also revealed that the ARM Cortex-A715 core fabbed on the N2 process using a high-performance standard library was 16.4% faster at the same power, saved 37.2% of power at the same speed, or was ~10% faster and saved ~20% of power simultaneously at the same voltage (0.8 V) compared to the core fabbed on N3E using 3-2 fin library."
 
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Apple, historically, has never been about gaming. If you are waiting for that, then you are wasting time. Go buy a Meta Game machine. You'll have a lot more fun playing pretend golf than moaning about Apple not giving you pretend golf.
Wow. You got "angry" downvoted on this post for merely stating the obvious about Apple and gaming. Hard to figure.
 
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I was actually surprised that it was shipping with m2 instead of m3.
It really doesn’t matter. The device not need that much performance power. It does everything it promises with no issues. Apps are a joke though and nobody really has a case for them. I really like my AVP, but it is simply a consumption device for watching movies for me. Does great at that though. I doubt I would upgrade until it dies.
 
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Given that there are predicate Apple patents from 2006 he OK'd it for at least 5 years and didn't kill it.
Steve’s biggest advice to Tim Cook was, don’t try to be me. Steve flip flopped a lot. If Tim stuck to smaller iPhones like Steve wanted, Apple would have been a minor player in phone market. Apple was getting hammered by larger android phones and had to counter with bigger phones. Steve also was more realist, he said he would be happy with iPhone at 1% market share. AVP is niche, and he probably would have been ok with 1% market share for AVP. It’s a High priced low volume product, not sure why any one was expecting iPhone or iPad like sales. Apple can afford to continue selling 500 K units and keep making it better.
 
Nice to see they stockpiled parts from the first generation epic fail, so there can be limited changes to the second (and final) generation epic fail.
 
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Expecting only a chip upgrade. Also don't think a new M5 chip will boost sales.
 
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I don't think they removed anything with the iPad 2, they merely did the redesign, which was in every way better.
I had the first iPad and the iPad 2. The first one was really heavy. It weighed about as much as an Apple Vision Pro. I loved it, though, in that time when there wasn't an iPad 2 to compare it to. I got a LOT of use out of it, and passed it along to others when I replaced it with a newer model.

I'm up for a Vision Pro 2 that is redesigned and in every way better. Until then, I'll enjoy the Vision Pro that I have right now.
 
I had the first iPad and the iPad 2. The first one was really heavy. It weighed about as much as an Apple Vision Pro. I loved it, though, in that time when there wasn't an iPad 2 to compare it to. I got a LOT of use out of it, and passed it along to others when I replaced it with a newer model.

I'm up for a Vision Pro 2 that is redesigned and in every way better. Until then, I'll enjoy the Vision Pro that I have right now.
I also had both models. The iPad 2 was much lighter, much faster, and better to hold on to. A major upgrade IMHO. I expect something like this for Vision Pro 2, due to the long wait between models, and it being an entirely new product.
 
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