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Apple Vision Pro M2 Chip Said to Have 10 GPU, 8 CPU Cores
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Because they started with a testing/working design and adjusted it from that. It takes years and thus you start with something that you know works.
I get the feeling first time buyers won't be happy when V2 is released in six months time. Remember the original iPhone fiasco.
Depends on the consumer. Right now, most people can't afford this, but there are some who can. It's best to focus on what you're doing and less on what others would or would not do.
I like your second line. I'm less interested in the fact that you're passing on the first generation and more in "why". Lack of confidence in Apple to execute?
The second iPhone was released a year later so which fiasco should I remember? Maybe you’re thinking of the iPad 3. Probably should get your outrages straight before being outraged.
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This gave me a chuckle. This thing will still look like crap after everyone's oily faces and hair are done with it though. AirPods Max all over again. They should have selected a different color for it.
Let the hedonistic people with money to burn buy it. I personally can’t justify the risk on a 1st gen product. I appreciate them funding Apple to create a less expensive, more polished version for the rest of us.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I doubt there will be a new version 6 months later. All comments have been that there is a hard cap in how fast Sony can make a very key part. And it doesn't seem like that is a part that can be farmed out to LG or Samsung to get many companies making the same part to up the numbers... but maybe that will prove to be possible at some point (probably NOT 6 months later). It "feels" like this hard cap on supply is also not driven by price. For example, paying a lot more than $3500 doesn't necessarily give Sony some ability to make a LOT more of that part.
My guess is GEN 2 arrives in 2025 if GEN 1 sells out with demand to spare. I don't expect the rumored "cheaper" one... especially where that rumor involves MUCH cheaper... because for Apple to go cheaper-to-much-cheaper means cutting features. Nobody spinning "cheaper" tends to share what they want cut to get the lower price. Instead, it seems to be an expectation of maintaining the same quality of everything but Apple just cutting their own margin for cheaper pricing. IMO, modern AAPL would probably cut margin LAST of all possible things.
I don't have much concept of 4K lenses being cut to 1080p ones, like the existing cheaper ones offered up as where pricing should be. I doubt fewer cameras because I presume the mix of cameras is key to making it work as it does. I can't think of examples where Apple makes big compromises on build quality (plastic iPhone 5C that one time? plastic gen 2 & since AppleTV vs. that original all-aluminum one?) but even if they do, I doubt that will save much money. So what?
- Audio portion could get jettisoned for BYO (with AirPods or Headphones)
- the front monitor that shows one's eyes could be perhaps jettisoned to show nothing (if Apple is willing).
Best overall guess: GEN 2 is 2025 at best, probably still constrained supply regardless of demand. GEN 3-5 may have some breakthrough where supply can be ramped way up. I believe this whole thing is about to go down like the PS5 launch in Covid: scalpers grab up a lot of the supply and manufacturer can't clamp that down with a lot of additional supply. If this becomes a very desirable product, it's probably hard to get for the next few years... unless one overpays the scalper premiums. Think $3500 retail is sky high? Brace yourself for scalper pricing on Ebay. I recall PS5 markups of at least 30% to as much as 150% during that almost-2-year span of short supply from Sony.
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Wondering if the developers have had enough time to create some great apps for the hardware or perhaps through the year they will release them. I remember the og iphone and how we had a trickle of apps show up but maybe today, most dev can just transform their current apps to the vision OS easily..but make use of the hardware.
Rebrand it as patina and now its luxurious 🤣This gave me a chuckle. This thing will still look like crap after everyone's oily faces and hair are done with it though. AirPods Max all over again. They should have selected a different color for it.
In all seriousness yellowing white looks gross. I remember how bad the iPhone 4 in white looked either out of the box or after usage. I think it had extra yellowing around the battery and chip too.
I have noticed faster graphics with ray tracing on the 15 pro max compared to the 14 pro max, that’s the only thing I wanted from the m3 for the Vision Pro. So it wouldn’t be able to be used against first gen users when the second gen comes out.
I was just hoping that it was going to secretly (last minute) ship with an M3. That way it could at least do hardware accelerated ray tracing and mesh shading. That would be huge for games on it. (And most other things too since it’s all virtual images being portrayed)
Hopefully Apple thought it all out properly and these specs are appropriate for what they’ve intended the device to do. I’m guessing they have, since they will be demoing all its capabilities in-store and running it through its paces over and over again.
if someone wants it for content consumption, the specs will be overkill, but others will be pushing its boundaries for productivity.
We’ll see how it handles gaming. That wasn’t really presented at WWDC 23, nor will it be a part of the in-store demo, I don’t think. But those specs seem sufficient for gaming too. At least for now.
I’m curious if visionOS will be included in the annual WWDC presentation. I’m guessing yes.
if someone wants it for content consumption, the specs will be overkill, but others will be pushing its boundaries for productivity.
We’ll see how it handles gaming. That wasn’t really presented at WWDC 23, nor will it be a part of the in-store demo, I don’t think. But those specs seem sufficient for gaming too. At least for now.
I’m curious if visionOS will be included in the annual WWDC presentation. I’m guessing yes.
I don’t see a killer app. Maybe watching content is the killer app? I have money to burn. But I’d need to see at least one killer must have app and I haven’t seen one yet.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
If you’ve read many of these Vpro rumor threads, people have offered many “killer apps” in their opinions. Any 1+ of them could be yours too… or none of them may appeal.
If you haven’t read many threads, do some digging and you may find what you seek… or not. Not everyone needs to own every product. Maybe this is not for you? Or maybe it is?
I’m about an Apple everything guy myself, but I don’t own “the precious” and I don’t own the Watch. Again, not everything is for everyone. I AM pretty interested in this product for what I see as my own ‘killer app” use. I look forward to confirming or undermining it at an in-person demo soon.
If you don't want to dig into countless amounts of posts seeded in among extremist pessimism and extremist optimism (both usually showing in EVERY thread by the same 5-10 people), just be patient for a few weeks and the thing will be revealed, demo-able, with it's own App Store loaded up with an initial batch of Vpro apps.
I presume Apple will hold another event ahead of but close to launch day (FEB 2) to at least show off some impressive third party apps that have been developed for it in the last 7 months or so. I'm confident there will be some impressive apps from an imaginative community of developers to highlight what this can do. You might discover your own killer app in the reality of all of that vs. all the hype & speculation we all are imagining into it (or out of it) in all these threads about it.
If you haven’t read many threads, do some digging and you may find what you seek… or not. Not everyone needs to own every product. Maybe this is not for you? Or maybe it is?
I’m about an Apple everything guy myself, but I don’t own “the precious” and I don’t own the Watch. Again, not everything is for everyone. I AM pretty interested in this product for what I see as my own ‘killer app” use. I look forward to confirming or undermining it at an in-person demo soon.
If you don't want to dig into countless amounts of posts seeded in among extremist pessimism and extremist optimism (both usually showing in EVERY thread by the same 5-10 people), just be patient for a few weeks and the thing will be revealed, demo-able, with it's own App Store loaded up with an initial batch of Vpro apps.
I presume Apple will hold another event ahead of but close to launch day (FEB 2) to at least show off some impressive third party apps that have been developed for it in the last 7 months or so. I'm confident there will be some impressive apps from an imaginative community of developers to highlight what this can do. You might discover your own killer app in the reality of all of that vs. all the hype & speculation we all are imagining into it (or out of it) in all these threads about it.
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